Dumping Dick?

[DemForLife]

Has anyone else here noticed that yesterday with Chaney defending himself and declaring that he is going to be on the 04 ticket with Dubya, that he carefully added this exclusionary clause"Only health problems would prevent me from being the President's running mate". Did anyone else pick up on that? He has always maintained prior to this remark, that his health was never at issue regarding being VP? He has already been given his marching papers and they are quietly scheming and planning away at the White House as I speak. Dick already knows the date of his sudden illness and departure, he is just covering for them until they are able to get a suitable replacement (also known as "getting their shit togeher"). Also, they will use the timing of their bombshell to help prop up the sagging ratings of Dubya.

Whatcha think?

[demnan]

1. Could be, but I doubt it

I think they would have quite a struggle with Cheney. He seems like a "pry it from my cold dead hands" kind of guy.

His health, though, is generally bad and he's a man who's probably living on borrowed time as it is.

Welcome to DU, by the way. :hi:

[Maat]

2. I agree. That's all I can say.

I fear Rudy G. But it depends on what the Evangelical Religious Right is willig to put up with. Rudy would be viewed as too socially liberal for them. But if they want to win at all costs...

[Sagan]

3. I'm of two minds on the issue...

I've never thought that Chimpy / Rove were bigger than Cheney. Dick's obviously the one calling a hell of a lot of shots. Does that mean he's in charge or that he just has carte-blanche? Lord knows, the typical Prez/VP relationship is reversed in this misAdministration, with Dick constantly at a "secure location" and Junior running around raising money and taking vacations.

That being said, is Dick big enough to stay on the ticket regardless of his negative image? The Bushistas have to know that if they lose, any point about who's the boss is moot. While I do think that Dick is the big wheel in the misAdministration, I DON'T think he's the boss of all the neocon whackos. If enough of them decide he has to go, he probably would go.

From looking at the aggressive stage and message management tendencies of the misAdministration, I can see them using the convention as a big "Thanks for all your good work, Dick!" kind of platform and putting someone else on the ticket. Not Rice, but maybe Frist.

[right is wrong]

6. I agree on whose in charge

Dick is so bad they feel they have to hide him behind *! Pathetic. Bush enrages me, but Cheney creeps me out.

[Catshrink]

4. that's the graceful out for him...

wonder when he'll have the big heart attack that will sideline him?

[brendan120678]

5. Well...here's what I think

I dont know if or when Cheney will be replaced, but...

If Cheney is replaced, is there anybody you would absolutely NOT want to see as W's running mate?

There's a few I can think of that would slightly depress me if they were the new VP candidate...

Colin Powell
Rudy Guiliani
Condoleza Rice

...and maybe a few others whose names I cannot think of right now.

[Bandit]

8. IMHO there is only one person that could save Bush*

That is Senator McCain and I'm not sure even he could save the Cabal. For some reason that I am unaware of people trust McCain and think he is more liberal than he really is. He also has military credentials which neither Cheney or Bush* have.

[Ishoutandscream]

7. Even Repub shills like Imus and Tweety are laughing at Dick

This morning they were rollicking and cracking up about VP Halliburton's statements yesterday about WMDS. Dick just can't stop lying, but now the media is holding him to it (at least, better than before).

[robertpaulsen]

9. Cheney is the main PNAC power link

No way would the PNAC release their stranglehold on the White House. Granted there may be future health, legitimate or not, that may prevent Cheney from executing his job. (The Plame Investigation may indeed become a "health" problem if Scooter is the leaker.) But it is because of Cheney that the PNAC has been able to realize many parts of their diabolical agenda. Dubya is not PNAC. However, his brother Jeb is. That would be the scariest possibility: a Bush/Bush ticket.

[nefarious]

10. W* doesn't want to be accused of being Dick-less

Couldn't help myself.

Letting Dick off the ticket will be admitting to the fence-sitting freepers that wrongdoing actually did occur. So Chainy will continue to publicly be disappointed and in denial about Libby and Hannah's involvement in Novak's DCO outing of Valeria Plame.

The administration will prove their "isolated" scandal won't matter anyways, because W* will pardon them, as they were only following orders approved by Chainy/ Rove, which was the right thing to do ( especially if you're a blind man in a room full of deaf people).

[OneTwentyoNine]

11. Well....a K and E ticket might just cause some renewed "health problems"

I can't believe that Cheney would drop out, but I can see where he doesn't want to be on the good ship Chimp when it really starts sinking.

David

[VOX]

12. Whatever it is that Cheney does, he doesn't need the VP post to do it...

Pull strings, grift for Halliburton, do PNAC's bidding, etc. -- he's has already proven that working from an "undisclosed location" suits him just fine. Has there ever been a less hands-on VP than Cheney? (That is, doing the business of American citizens and taxpayers, rather than that of bloated big business.)

Additionally, keeping Cheney on the ticket in no way sets up the GOP for 2008. They want to hang on to power, and will give it everything they've got.

My best guess: Cheney will cite health problems. And the GOP VP candidate will be? Rudy Guilaini, to be trotted out in NY, right before the star-spangled 9/11 tribute, for which the GOP convention, to be held damn near Labor Day, will serve as a "rousing" lead-in.