Leave Mary Out Of It Testy Cheney Demands

[Cannikin]

(Washington, D.C.) An angry Vice President Dick Cheney Tuesday told a reporter that it was unfair to bring Mary Cheney, his lesbian daughter, into the debate about same-sex marriage.

In an interview with MSNBC Cheney was asked about his flip flop on gay marriage. Cheney now supports President supports President George W. Bush's call for a federal constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages. But, during the 2000 campaign Cheney said that he would prefer to see states handle the issue of gay marriage.

When pressed about the apparent change Cheney repeated that he supports the president. When asked if that reflects his personal view Cheney would only say that he supports the president.

He was then asked if he had discussed the issue with his daughter Mary, at which point the Vice President grew visibly annoyed.

"One of the most unpleasant aspects of this business is the extent of which private lives are intruded upon when these kinds of issues come up," he said. "I really have always considered my private - my daughters' lives private and I think that's the way it ought to remain."

Read the REST of the story (in my best Paul Harvey voice):
http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/03/030204cheney.htm

[eileen_d]

1. LOL - "Testy Cheney"

That hypocritical SOB.

[bearfartinthewoods]

23. i am no fan of his, obviously but......

if anyone put up billboards demanding my kid do something, well by god, you better hope i don't have the power he has.

m

[ronnykmarshall]

52. Tough!

Sorry but Mary Cheney's a grown woman and works for the very people that want to deny her the right to marry.

If she can't take the heat, then get the hell out of the kitchen.

:nopity:

[wildwww2]

56. Your correct. Name a liberal who they would not crucify. If she

wallows with the same lipstick covered pigs. She can eat the same kind of slop they feed to the Democratic party. IMHO.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[bearfartinthewoods]

who does she work for

and how does she get outta the kitchen?

[ronnykmarshall]

62. She's working for Bush/Cheney 04.

[bagnana]

58. Too bad. Bush and Co. should be forced to examine

the personal effects of their actions -- including writing VP's daughter out of the constitution. Their bigoted actions have consequences, and if they can't answer to them and hide behind privacy claims then you know they have not real answer to give.

[Robb]

2. "the Vice President grew visibly annoyed"

Oh, heavens. Well we wouldn't want that. :eyes:

You're out in one, Dick you silly fucker.

[pinniped]

77. Bunker dick better take it easy, with that bad ticker and all.

n/t

[Bundbuster]

3. Excuse me, Oilslick

Who's yer daddy??

[lcooksey]

4. This really isn't about Mary

It's about Dick Cheney's willingness to put politics ahead of his own family's best interests.

I'm surprised nobody from Family Research Council or Concerned Women of America have issued a press release urging Dick to put his daughter into a program to "cure" her homosexuality. In their misguided opinion that's what he'd do if he *really* loved her.

Take a close look America -- if Cheney's willing to do something like this to his own daughter, imagine how little regard he has for the rest of you! (I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but sometimes you just gotta rant.)

[TankLV]

42. Dick to Daughter - "Sorry I have to kill you - it's out of my hands.

Jeebus' followers say I must!

No hard feelings.

I still love you."

[Bucky]

5. Daily Kos points out that Cheney backs an Amendment that "intrudes"...

...on private lives. Sorry, Dick, but it's sauce for the gander-on-gander action.

[DarkPhenyx]

9. Screwing with his daughters private life...

...is justice for his being an ass? What are we? The liberal mafia?

Do you realize how stupid that comment makes you sound?

[Bucky]

67. No, it's not a matter of being mafia. It's fighting the debate HE started

I'm not doing "mafia justice". Cheney isn't making a real argument when he says the debate is involving his daughter personally. She is a public personality who is in charge of his reelection campaign and who is openly gay. When he switches side in the midst of a debate and the debate is about whether teh government should try to control parts of people's personal lives, then it's fair game to discuss how the policy will harm people who work for him.

Sorry that it seems intrusive to you. But this is all part of a fair open argument, not about destroying personal lives or reputations.

[DarkPhenyx]

76. And attacking someone, or their position, by using their family...

...is a mafia tactic.

[terrya]

6. Tough shit, Dick.

Your daughter is working for the Bush/Cheney campaign.

Mary Cheney has been conspiciously silent during this debate. And disgustingly silent after Bush announced his support of the Federal Marriage Amendment. Mary Cheney hasn't spoken out against this vicious anti-gay amendment...which would enshrine intolerance in the Constitution and would take away rights of a group of Americans.

Silence=complicity, IMO. And Mary Cheney, because of being an out lesbian (and a lesbian with a life partner, BTW), is fair game.

So, once again.

Tough shit, Dick.

Terry

[chelsea0011]

16. Ezxactly, she works for the campaign so she can take the heat

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

It's about time she's put in the fire to explain how she can work for this homo-phobic group. Even the Log Cabins called it "war on homosexuals". There's no crying in politics you coward.

[ronnykmarshall]

51. Thank YOU!

Mary works for the Bush campaign. Sorry, but she' put herself out there and KISS my entire gay ass. Dick has a issues with the press and his kids "private life", well then he and his monkey ass puppet can just stay the fuck out my MY private life.

[ms_splash]

7. oh, so we should leave private matters private?

The hypocracy of these guys really kills me. What if your daughter had an abortion? should we leave her records sealed, or should we get planned parenthood to give them to ashcroft? oh, your daughter's life is private? so sorry.

[Cooley Hurd]

24. Ask Ken Starr about private lives being "in bounds," Crashcart...

YOU guys picked him - he lowered the bar, Dicknose... :eyes:

[DarkPhenyx]

8. I agree with the VP on this one.

I really hate having to say this too. Ya'll know where I stand on the issue of gay marraige, adn you also know where I stand on the issue of involuntarying "outing" people or forcing openly homosexual people to be political when they may not want to be.

If you really want to to go into it all again I will however.

[chelsea0011]

19. Agree with the V.P.? I don't think so.

She isn't being outed. She has said she is a lesbian. The V.P. has no shame. He would treat his daughter as a second-class citizen. And he is even changing his own position by allowing states decide this issue to deciding by a Consitutional Ammendment forever screwing a whole group of Americans. Anything for a vote! What an a'hole.

[DarkPhenyx]

25. And that is a discussion to be had between the VP...

...and his daughter. It isn't a discussion that the public should be privy to. It isn't one we should be forcing. It is none of our business how Dick the father deals with Mary his daughter.

yes, he's an asshole. So am I for that matter, as was my father. I'm told it's genetic in the case of my family. I don't know what Dick's problem is.

[Cannikin]

10. We arent outing here...if I'm not mistaken, she's very out.

Just very.....quiet...on this issue.

Outing someone just is not good. It's a very bold and personal step to be able to come out. It shouldn't be forced on anyone.

But like I said, she's out. She's just not standing up to her family about what is right. She's playing politics....because of (I think I heard this on the daily show) Two words for you:

Trust fund.

[Plaid Adder]

11. Yeah, you know what Dick, that IS unfortunate.

MY private life has been intruded on six ways from Sunday by this fucking issue, and I'm not too happy about it either. I, unfortunately, am not in a position to do anything about that, whereas YOU, as the power behind the throne, are. So how about NOT pushing for this fucking amendment, if you're so concerned about protecting your daughter's privacy?

Cry me a fucking river,

The Plaid Adder

P.S. Sorry about all the "fucking"s. Some days you just can't talk about the Bush administration without 'em.

[Ilsa]

71. It's been a "good" day for the "F" word.

There are days to use it, and days when it feels good to read it.

Nicely summed up by "So how about NOT pushing for this fucking amendment, if you're so concerned about protecting your daughter's privacy?"

Big :kick: for the Plaid Adder

[cboy4]

12. Big Dick Cheney likes

to keep a lot of stuff private, like
where all of those WMD's are, like how
much Haliburton is F-ing American taxpayers,
bla, bla, bla....

And BTW, he is a disgusting father. I'll say it for Mary.

[OneTwentyoNine]

13. Thank Gawd that the Clinton's private lives weren't "intruded on"

Look Oil Dick,you and Chimpboy and your thug administration run by the religious right drew the line in the sand about gays and how they are held as second class citizens.

So your daughters name gets thrown into the mix,so be it. Its natural for reporters to ask this question when Cheney is staunchly against gay marriage.

Its been known for years that his daughter is gay,no one is "outing" anyone. Tough shit Dick!!

David

[Cannikin]

14. VERY good point!!!!!!

We should make that our response.

[DarkPhenyx]

15. You are, however...

...attempting to force her to take a stand or make a statement. She is not a public figure. She isn't even an actor.

We have no right.

[kiahzero]

17. Um, campaign workers are public figures

She chose to get involved in politics, and work for a man that wants to write discrimination against her into the Constitution. She opened herself up for this - if she wants to be treated as a private citizen, she needs to act like one.

[DarkPhenyx]

30. So...if you work on, say, Dean's campaign...

...you are willing to have cameras and reporters in everything your family is about? You are a public figure mind you.

Being a campaign worker does not make you a public figure.

[kiahzero]

37. Mary Cheney doesn't HAVE a family

So your analogy doesn't apply.

Here's a more applicable one: I'm campaigning for my mother for a Senate seat, and because it's VA, she's talking about the "evils of witchcraft." The whole state already knew that I'm pagan, and fellow pagans are asking me to explain why I'm working for her, when she's just fanning hatred.

The press would have legitimate questions for me.

Another analogy: An African-American man somehow gets on the campaign staff of Strom Thurmond, when he's running on a segregation platform. Should the press leave him out of it?

[DarkPhenyx]

44. Yes, they should leave you out of it.

It has nothing to do with her politics or positions. Or yours for that matter.

Mary does indeed have a family. Amazing how that works when you have a dad, mom and all that.

[kiahzero]

63. Her parents are her extended family

She's legally not allowed to have a wife, because of her father, and the party he works for.

And it has everything to do with her politics and positions. A prominent woman is working for the campaign of a man who wants to deny her equal rights. Just because she's the daughter of the person she's campaigning for, doesn't mean we don't get to ask why she's engaging in such a masochistic effort?

[Karenina]

72. Maybe she's next in line

for a virgin birth. ;-)

[DarkPhenyx]

78. Wrong yet again.

Her parents are her immediate family. Extended family for her would be their brothers, sisters, and parents. Also anything beyond that. Were she to have children Dick would be extended family to them, but would still be immediate family to Mary.

Sorry, you can't change the definitions simply because it strengthens your argument, or fails to in this case.

[OneTwentyoNine]

50. Kerry's daughter is working for him...

Lets see how Kkkarl Rove and the dark side leaves her out of any scandal,real or imagined.

Besides,they weren't interviewing Cheney's daughter they were interviewing him and his hypocrisy.

Should reporters totally ignore and give Cheney a pass on the fact that he was against the very thing that Bush now wants passed back in 2000? He flip-flopped,you know the exact same thing the accuse Kerry of on a daily basis.

David

[terrya]

20. She could quit from the Bush/Cheney campaign.

As long as she's working for the re-election (whoops, ELECTION) campaign of her father and Bush, she is tacitly endorsing the Federal Marriage Amendment.

You bet we're trying to force her to take a stand. She's a grown up woman who, thus far, seems to be agreeing with this Adminstration and its anti-gay policies regarding same-sex marriage. And she's an out lesbian.

She's made her choice. And she's fair game. And until we hear otherwise, she'll continue to be questioned about it. And rightly so, IMO.

Terry

[DarkPhenyx]

29. Same point I made about Rosie.

She may agree with everything else they stand for except this. It may not be a make or break issue for her. She may, OMG, even agree with them on this issue. To be honest I don't know what her position is on it.

[Cannikin]

40. Are you talking about Rosie O'Donnell?

Surely not.....I must have missed something. Another Rosie?

Her views are out there front and center:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/Entertainment/Rosie_gay_marriage_040226-1.html

Feb. 26 — Blasting President Bush for supporting a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriages, Rosie O'Donnell is taking action and heading to San Francisco to wed her longtime girlfriend, Kelli Carpenter.

Bush's statements angered O'Donnell, who said that it would be the only time that the Constitution would be amended in a way that restricts people's rights.

"I think the actions of the president yesterday, which are, you know, in my opinion, the most vile and hateful words ever spoken by a single president in my opinion. I am stunned, and I am horrified," she said.

"We, too, have a dream of equality for all families," the comedienne said in a statement. "The only way changes are made in society is when people like Mayor Gavin Newsom have the courage to stand up against injustice."

[DarkPhenyx]

45. That would be the Rosie.

She has been supportive of Bush in the past despite his policies towards homosexuals. She disagrees with him here. She may well still support him on other issues. The two positions are not completely incompatable. Funny that.

[Cannikin]

21. The questions were being put to Cheney...

Not the daughter. He was asked how he juggles the gay marriage issue while facing it in his own home....he chose to take a double standard way out and not comment on how normal his daughter is and how she's destroyed no straight marriages.

We just want to know if HE is going to turn HIS back on her for being gay or to be a republican hypocrite.

I agree that Mary Shouldnt be FORCED into the public eye...we may not like what she has to say!

[DarkPhenyx]

28. And he said leave his daughter out of it.

I agree with him. Please reference my post about father daughter discussions.

[Cannikin]

33. dupe

N/T

[Cannikin]

34. Please reference MY post...

I agreed with you.

[DarkPhenyx]

47. OK, so as this is an issue between the two of them...

...we need to leave it the hell alone. Particularly if they are indicating that they want us to.

[Cannikin]

43. kick

[mitchtv]

68. stepping into the public eye...

is hardly being forced. She is trying to get gays to vote for her father.This is a debate, we are allowed a position too. Hypocrisy is always an issue.

[chelsea0011]

22. Campaign workers always have to explain postions...

If you ever went door to door on any issue from national to local, you have to explain to the public why you are in their face. They rightfully demand it. It is the nature of the beast. So, Mary has to explain why her father is a homophobe.And why shouldn't she have to? She has no right to pick and choose issues.:nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

[DarkPhenyx]

26. Becasue she isn't a campaigner.

She isn't a public figure, and he isn't our face about it. That's why.

If she were out in the community speaking against his position it would be different. She isn't however.

[Neecy]

31. au contraire

She campaigned extensively within the gay community in 2000 for the Bush/Cheney ticket. Certainly sold them a bill of goods, didn't she? This is why gay Republicans are so angry and she's a focal point of this anger.

She's also a leading figure within her father's campaign in 2004, and she's fair game. Period.

On edit: read about Mary Cheney's political activism, and then decide whether she should be off-limits on this issue. Here's a snippet:

"Mary Cheney would be relevant to this debate even were she not related to the vice president. She is a public figure who has chosen to put herself in the public eye as a professional gay rights activist, first at Coors and then at the Republican Unity Coalition. She has also put herself in the public eye by accepting a $100,000 a year salary to run the vice president's re-election campaign."

http://www.dearmary.com/mary/whydearmary.html

[Cannikin]

36. ditto....

From another post:

"Another analogy: An African-American man somehow gets on the campaign staff of Strom Thurmond, when he's running on a segregation platform. Should the press leave him out of it?"

[DarkPhenyx]

48. So she did.

Prehaps the entire homosexual community was stupid enough to believe them. Prehaps she believed it too.

If youe beef with her percieved hypocrasy is with her then address it to her. If she tells you to piss up a rope then you have her answer. The dichotomy between her being lesbian and her father being a homophobe isn't something that we should be persuing. It isn't our family or our damn problem.

Instead focus the energy on fighting the stupid legislation. You are chasing smoke again.

[Neecy]

57. well....

If her father is a homophobe, and I believe that he most certainly is, then perhaps she should have kept her piehole shut when she was scamming the gay community for donations and support in 2000. This is far from simply a father/daughter issue; it's a matter of public policy that Mary Cheney has thrust herself into and it affects millions of Americans. She most certainly should be held accountable for her words and actions. If she now wants 'privacy' then she should have stayed out of the damn fray to begin with.

"When Mary joined the pro-gay Republican Unity Coalition in April 2002, she issued a statement saying "We can make sexual orientation a nonissue for the Republican Party, and we can help achieve equality for all gay and lesbian Americans." It's at a minimum fair for those gay voters and contributors who believed Mary's promise, and acted on it, to now ask her whether her promise of a party compassionate to gays was a false one."

http://www.dearmary.com/mary/whydearmary.html

[DarkPhenyx]

60. Waht if she bellieved strongly in Bush/Cheney ...

...on other issues that she felt more strongly about, actually dosen't care about marraige, or isn't a "one issue voter"?

[Neecy]

64. here, again, is what she's said

"We can make sexual orientation a nonissue for the Republican Party, and we can help achieve equality for all gay and lesbian Americans."

She *doesn't* speak out on 'other' issues. She specifically campaigned within the gay and lesbian community in 2000. If anyone is 'one issue', it's Mary Cheney herself, and the 'one issue' she sold was a Trojan horse. She has worked for the 'one issue' Republican Unity Coalition, which is a gay Republican group. And she was a 'one issue' gay community liason with the notoriously right-wing and homophobic Coors family. She seems to take money quite easily from a corporation and a political party that both despise her because she's been willing to put herself out there as a 'one-issue' gay spokesperson.

If you don't think that she, HERSELF, has put herself squarely on the table on this issue than there's really nothing more I can say to persuade you. As a gay woman, you can BET that she's a fair target for me and will continue to be. What she has done and continues to do AFFECTS MY LIFE. That simple.

[DarkPhenyx]

74. Prior to this statement you quote...

...Completely unassociated with it in time, place, or subject, she has indeed spoken verly highly of the Bush Adminsitration.

As a gay woman she is no more fair a target than I am. You are pissed off and emotional, that is the only thing that makes you believe she is. You don't like her politics, or her father. Tough. She is a private citizen. Just as you are. Her working on her dad's campaign or for any cause dosen't change that. Would it be fair for you to be attacked by the anti-anything crowd simply because you are on the opposite side? Imagine what they would be willing to do in order to supress your voice or "cure" you. C'mon! Lose the emotion and think logically. If you can't do that they will win.

[neoteric lefty]

65. good luck DarkPhenyx with everyone

here. You seem to be a lone voice of dissent against DU masses. I personally agree she shouldn't be harassed by the media if she chooses not to be vocal towards the press. However, I see no harm in asking Dick about it at a press conference. If he fully explains himself about his new position then great, issue closed. Also, he shouldn't have gotten annoyed when reporter asked the question. It was a fair question and he could have said "that is a family matter that I do not want to discuss to the press" without getting in a pissy mood.

It sounds like in this thread that some of the people think that we should become smear merchants because thats what the republicans do. That seems ridiculous and I hope we keep at least some of our principles. You can fight back without going after family members who may or may not choose to be in the public eye. I really hope I misunderstood a few posts in here.

[Neecy]

66. smear merchants?

We're not criticizing her hair and nails here, we're asking her to address the contradictions between the message she's been selling to the gay community and the reality that's coming from this administration that she PUBLICLY assured the world was compassionate and not hostile to gay and lesbian civil rights.

By her silence, and by continuing to take a cushy salary from the RNC, she's endorsing a Constitutional amendment that actively discriminates not only against me and millions of others, but against herself as well. If we're calling an Uncle Tom an Uncle Tom, and you think it's a smear, too damned bad.

[DarkPhenyx]

79. And if she feels the amendment isn't a big deal?

She may actually feel that it isn't hostile toward the homosexual community. She may believe in the cause.

She also dosn't have to jsutify her position to you. When you elect her to somethng, then she will. Until then she is still a private citizen.

[DarkPhenyx]

73. I disagree with my family. Frequently.

There are issues we will nver, ever, come to a common ground on. there are far more issues that we agree on though. All of that goes on behind closed doors however. In public it's a united front. Why? Because we are family.

If Dick told us to piss off and leave his daughter out of it that is a valid answer and we should listen. If he said piss off and leave Bush out of this, that isn't vaild.

I don't agree with Mel Gibson's world view. However I do agree with what he told Diane Sawyer during their interview. She had asked him if his father was an anti-Semite. His response was "He's my dad, Diane, You need to leave it alone. You just need to leave it alone."

For teh record it isn't unusual for me being the lone voice on DU. In public forums at least. I tend to get a lot of folks PM'ing me with support.

[OneTwentyoNine]

54. Myself or other DU'ers are forcing Cheney's daughter to take a stand??

Bullshit,its HER DAD,Bush,the flaming RW religious faction that runs this country from the WH that would cause her to take a stand.

Hell,I hope to God that she takes a stand for what she believes in whether her dad is VP or not. Damn.......

David

[theHandpuppet]

70. Sorry, but...

... by virtue of her active role in this administration AND her job in the Bush/Cheney re-election campaign (for which she receives $100,000!) Mary already HAS taken a stand on this issue... willingly. We have every right to take her to task on this issue! Unlike Bush's own daughters, Mary really is a cog in the Bushreich and has been for years.

A link for everyone to visit: http://www.gaytoday.com/people/022304pe.asp

[KharmaTrain]

18. Let's Play A Game...Dick...

Once again it's time to spin the hypocrisy wheel...where principles mean nothing when it comes to outright greed and power.

Now let's change the name Cheney to Clinton, Mary to Chelsea...wave the magic wand and pretend this was Clenis...yep...poor Chelsea, the GOOP cried...what do we tell the children? It's not bad enough he spooged OUR Oval office (the sleeze in there now will require massive renovations next year) but now he's deserted his poor, innocent daughter. What an outrage! This is no father, no man, no leader.

I could hear it endlessly on AM hate radio and the the only defenders Clinton has is poor Lanny Davis and Alan Colmes. What a pile of crock!

Chenney now admits he has no soul whatsoever as to support a policy that codifies discrimination into our most sacred legal document. And he does so at the peril of one of his own children. I don't care how old she is, this is just inhumane. He could have said he has no opinion on the subject and left it at that...seems to have worked just fine when it comes to his or his puppet's military record.

If Chenney wants his life to be private, it's very simple for him to do. He resigns. Right now he's on our dime and any and everything he says and does, including a 180 like that one...are an indicator of what type of sewardship he'd have over the "family" that is supposed to be this country. If he treats his daughter this way, isn't this telling how he's dealing with the rest of us? Self serving asshole!

[spanone]

27. He didn't feel that way about Joe Wilson's wife now did he?

[alcuno]

32. Doesn't this make Cheney a flip-flopper?

As for his daughter, she's a big girl working on her daddy's political campaign; she is fair game when it comes to questions on this policy. He needs to stop trying to hide behind her and use her as a shield.

[Cannikin]

38. It sure does!

"In an interview with MSNBC Cheney was asked about his flip flop on gay marriage. Cheney now supports President supports President George W. Bush's call for a federal constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages. But, during the 2000 campaign Cheney said that he would prefer to see states handle the issue of gay marriage."

[Zan_of_Texas]

41. Are they BOTH in an undisclosed location now?

If Mary Cheney were 16, I'd say leave her out of it. But, she is an adult, and has had high-ranking roles in both campaigns for the VP.

I think it is a bit of a bait-and-switch for her to go around to gay groups, and then after the "election" and donations, it becomes apparent that she has no ability to have an impact on her father's position.

I think Cheney's position here, "whatever the president's position is, I support it" is probably in line with his ability to blend into the background and virtually disappear -- it has served him well.

According to reporters like Jim Lobe, it has been Cheney who has been the prime architect of our foreign policy, and it has been those inside his office who have been responsible for the overreaching, the bad intelligence, and basically pretty much the whole mess.

Meanwhile, he stays out of sight, and people we never elected (Libby, Perle, Wolfowitz) lead us into terrible messes, such as Iraq and god-knows-what-next.

I think his "position" is just a way to try to melt into the background (as he continues to draw bigtime deferred comp from Halliburton).

[foreigncorrespondent]

35. This news so disgusts me.

I am simply appalled that any father would trample on his own kids rights like this.

Cheney is a disgrace to all father the world over. Including mine, who doesn't want a thing to do with me.

[TacticalPeek]

39. On Imus this am, they were speculating about Gep getting the VP nod.

Don suggested Gep's and Cheney's daughters get married, thus insuring a White House wedding no matter who won.

:silly:

[Kamika]

46. shouldnt he be angry at bush? Bush intruded ALOT into his daughters life

If anyone intruded into his daughters life it's Bush and the amendment.

[bif]

49. She's an adult, dickhead!

So no, we shouldn't leave her out of it.

[Wapsie B]

53. Oh I get it now.

If the repugs drag in Chelsea Clinton or Amy Carter into a debate, everything's fine. But kids of repugs are off limits. /sarcasm


Screw you little Dickie.

[jansu]

55. If you want us to stay out of your private life, STAY OUT OF OURS!

Or even better, GET OUT OF PUBLIC LIFE and I promise, I will never again peek at your private life!

[indigo32]

59. Amen to that

amen

[Book Lover]

61. Tough

shit.

If her life is so private, then why can't she marry her partner? After all, it's none of *my* business, right?

[Ilsa]

69. Imagine that! Private lives are being intruded upon by law!

I think since she's an adult, it's fair game.

[Hekate]

75. Golly Dick, you mean like 13-year-old Chelsea was left out of it?

When some wingnut radio turd compared her looks to a dog?

Mary Cheney is an adult, she's out, and she's worked on her daddy's campaign doing outreach to the Republican gay community. 'Nuff said.

Hekate