Is the fed using RFID tags in new US notes?

[JohnyCanuck]

RFID Tags in New US Notes Explode When You Try to Microwave Them

Want to share an event with you, that we experienced this evening.. Dave had over $1000 dollars in his back pocket (in his wallet). New twenties were the lion share of the bills in his wallet. We walked into a truck stop/travel plaza and they have those new electronic monitors that are supposed to say if you are stealing something. But through every monitor, Dave set it off. He did not have anything to purchase in his hands or pockets. After numerous times of setting off these monitors, a person approached Dave with a 'wand' to swipe why he was setting off the monitors.

Believe it or not, it was his 'wallet'. That is according to the minimum wage employees working at the truck stop! We then walked across the street to a store and purchased aluminum foil. We then wrapped our cash in foil and went thru the same monitors. No monitor went off.

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Dave and I have brainstormed the fact that most items can be 'microwaved' to fry the 'rfid' chip, thus elimination of tracking by our government.

So we chose to 'microwave' our cash, over $1000 in twenties in a stack, not spread out on a carasoul. Do you know what exploded on American money?? The right eye of Andrew Jackson on the new twenty, every bill was uniform in it's burning... Isnt that interesting?

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More at http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904rfidtagsexplode.html They've also got pics of the exploded bills.

Once again the usefullness of tinfoil has been confirmed. It's not just for hats any more. It's for wallets now too.

[papau]

1. Now that was interesting!

:-)

[anarchy1999]

2. Damn! Need more tin foil..........

You conspiracy theorists!

You just don't know when to quit..............

(teasing)..

Called conspiracy theorist one too many times yesterday.

[tom_paine]

3. Interesting

This calls for some experiments with controls...

(should be easy enough to microwave an old bill and a new one side by side)

It is possible that there is another factor (high concentration of magnetic ink, for instance) that is causing this "false positive"

[TacticalPeek]

4. Or, think ink.

"New" may imply ink stll drying/evaporating and simply cooking off in the radiation. Perhaps more dry around the edges than in the center of the bill, and voila, an old hickory fire.

(And store detectors misfire.)

Will it take RF test equipment to urbanlegendize this one?

[bandy]

5. could that explain

urgent need to redesign and print new $20's which cost millions of tax dollars to do?

[Atlant]

6. This positively reeks of "Urban Legend".

I haven't gone to Snopes aboutthis, but this aboslutely reeks of
"Urban Legend".

1. The devices detected by the "exit door" scanners are not
RFIDs. they're simply a resonator that's tuned to some not-
all-that-high Radio frequency. When you walk through and
"resonate" on that frequency (or double it), the alarm goes
off.

2. The devices that set these things off are definitely *NOT*
microscopic (owing to the radio frequencies used). You've seen
them: some are a foil-looking strip an inch or two long, some
are a stick-on circuit with a serpentine pattern about an inch
square.

3. Real RFIDs have a limited range (which is roughly related to
their size or the power of the radio employed). The devices that
are the "chip-scale" are simply not practical at the ranges of the
exit door scanners. Here's an article about a Hitachi chip that
*IS* small enough for use on banknotes: Its range *WITH* an external
antenna is 25cm (~1 foot). *WITHOUT* an external antenna, it's range
is "close proximity" (think, "contact").

http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20030902S0032

Here's Hitachi's announcement (with photos):

http://www.hitachi.com/New/cnews/030902.html

Atlant

[Toucano]

7. Wrong conclusion

The microwaved bills all burned in the same place because they were in a stack and heat built up at that spot.

A stack of any paper, heated in the microwave, would produce the same effect.

You always get uneven heat in microwave ovens.

[Beam Me Up]

8. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT Proof:

I put a stack of 4 new $20s in my microwave WITH a carrousel and THEY DID NOT BURN EVEN ON HIGH AFTER 2 MINUITES.

By the way, I believe this story originated here:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/290204rfidtagsexplode.html

[Beaker]

9. yup...nothing to see here.

but the, everyone needs a hobby, i guess.

btw- just how long did this bozo microwave the money for, for it to start burning? it seems to me that just a few seconds would be sufficient to fry any imbedded micro-cicuitry(not to say that I believe that any such circuitry exists or existed- it doesn't.)

as bugs bunny so elequently put it: "whatta maroon..."

[ex_jew]

11. Of course you are aware that Euro notes will have RFID in 2005

Not sure I would put this one in the "maroon" category.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

13. yes, there have been numerous mainstream article about RFID in bills

While this story is obviously false, before anyone goes around yelling "tinfoil" - get an education on RFID and read the newspapers - the tags are in most Walmart products already, and the EU has been trying to shrink them to fit in currency for a while.

"I don't understand this technology. Conspiracy! Tinfoil!"

[Atlant]

14. I understand this technology just fine, but the original story is "NUTS".

I understand this technology just fine, but the original story is
"NUTS, N-V-T-S, NUTS!"

As you can see from the Hitachi link that I posted, the RFIDs of
the sort that are going into the Euro are read at "contact distances"
and *NOT* by scanners that you might walk through.

Atlant

[Nlighten1]

16. You're going to play the palace!

Did he say..."big fat pig?"

[Atlant]

17. You know, when you "die at the Palace", you *REALLY DIE* at the Palace!

Or so I've heard.

Atlant
(Often accused of being
a Stand-Up Philosopher)

[Robb]

10. Quite a tale!

Wellll, if nothin' else, all mah munny's warm now! :silly:

[TacticalPeek]

12. LOL! Hot cash. n/t

[Davis_X_Machina]

15. Magnetic ink, with a high iron content I gather,

...on the labels printed by supermarket delis, has burned on me in the microwave before.

[Atlant]

18. Actually, supermarkert labels are often heat-sensitive paper.

Actually, supermarket labels are often heat-sensitive paper (just
like the output from cheap, roll-fed fax machines and non-impact
printed credit card receipt machines). And when heated, those
labels will happily turn all black.

Atlant