Does "The Passion" expose the Jewish-fundy Christian alliance as a sham?

[fujiyama]

Jews are an important part of the democratic party. They've played important roles in many progressive movements, such as the fight for civil rights.

In recent years we've seen the most pro Israel administration in history. We also kept hearing about the fundy support for Israel. At times, I was worried that many more Jews would vote republican because of this. Fortunately, I don't think most Jews will vote for Bush. In a few curcial states Jewish votes could make a difference, like Florida for example.

I myself just saw the Passion yesterday and while I was annoyed with many judging the movie before seeing it, there were certain aspects of the film I found disturbing and yes, even anti-Semitic. At the same time, most fundy leaders are praising the film as being "it is as it was" (as the Pope supposedly said).

How will many Jews see this? It's obvious the republicans have been trying to build inroads with Jewish groups in recent years. Does this film put a roadblock to those efforts?

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

1. Jewish Americans like most Americans will vote in record numbers for Dems

I would think. The handful of right-wing hawks that have flirted with the Republican party are hardly different than the Trent Lotts and Condaleeza Rice's of the GOP. Jewish people are one of the strongest blocks of Democratic party voters along with unions, African-Americans, civil libertarians, Latinos, liberals.

Don't let the GOP Culture Wars divide us.

[lumpy]

2. The answer to the question is

yes. The Jews are being used when fundies claim to embrace Jewish religion. A means to the apocalyptic end.

[supernova]

3. If The Passion exposes the fundamentalist con

about snuggling up to the Jewish community for what it is, then it will have served a useful purpose.

[ikojo]

5. For the orthodox Jewish community as long as fundies

continue to support Israel and more importantly VISIT Israel (as they do in greater numbers than Jews, at least for the past couple of years) then the orthodox will continue to befriend fundie Christians and support Bush. I brought this point about the Passion up to a couple of orthodox friends and they did not believe it would increase anti semitism because "it's just the story out of their bible." Oy vey!

Another thing that unites fundies and orthodox Jews is the voucher and home schooling issue. Orthodox and more observant Jews tend to send their kids to religious schools or home school them (I know a Jewish family here in St Louis who home schools their kids but they are less conservative than the orthodox although they are traditional).

I sent one the pic of the sign in front of the Denver area Pentecostal church and have not heard from her yet. I don't know if it will change her mind or not.

[rockymountaindem]

6. No Kidding!!!

I'm tired of the fundies thinking that they can fool me with their support for Israel. I know the game... we go back there, second coming occurs, 2/3 of the Jews die and the others convert to Christianity. I think that is a pretty bigoted reason for supporting Israel, don't you?

I, for one, do not appreciate the Repub. attack on the seperation of church and state. I believe the Jewish community won't vote for these scary neo-con wackos.

[Darranar]

4. There IS no "Jewish/fundy alliance"...

there is an alliance between the pro-Likudists claiming to represent the Jewish community and the fundamentalists.

Most Jews are Democrats and will vote accordingly.