Shocking Interview with Hutton Gibson (Mel Gibson's Father)

[Yavin4]

A NY radio reporter, Steve Feuerstein, got an interview with Hutton Gibson, Mel Gibson's father. The reporter played the interview on the Howard Stern show, but you can download the transcript here:

http://www.speakyourpiece.net/


Excerpt:
Gibson
You see the concentration camps were filled with people who had to be fed. And when
they did bomb the tracks they could not see them any more. And that’s where you’re supposed
Holocaust came in. You see these were work camps.
Guess who owned the railroads? The Jews…IG Farbin Industries was never touched it
was making munitions and doing all things to keep them in the war…. The Group Works
they also weren’t bombed. All they had to do was bomb the group works but they were
owned by the Jews. They owned the tracks and the banks so you don’t bomb your own
stuff. They owned the banking the banking system. Hitler’s big crime was operating
without the big banks (and the Jews). Just like Russia it had to go since it had no debt.

[PinkTiger]

1. This guy is one scary dude.

The hate talk is horrible to read.

[myopic4141]

2. This would be shocking

if it were an isolated individual; but, it is not. There are a great deal out there like him. Many are just better at hiding it.

[packerssuck]

3. No surprise here.

[The Zanti Regent]

22. Just reading that triggers a red alert in my head

Just what this Orthodox Jew needs to start the day, and it scared the crap out of my black wife too!

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

4. "anti-semetism is the socialism of fools"

That's what this is.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

5. IMHO, you only have to worry about a guy like this if he achieves...

...political and economic power. This guy has a personal opinion and nothing else...why does this bother so many DUers?

Now, if someone held these beliefs and was in charge of a large, economically and technologically advanced country with the most powerful military in the world, then I would be VERY concerned.

But, we already have a guy with those beliefs who seized power in December 2000, don't we? Why not concentrate on getting THAT guy out of power instead of sweating the small stuff?

[DemBones DemBones]

6. Hear, hear! When people get to be that old, it's

difficult for them to change their minds about anything so it's best to ignore him, since he has no army of his own. Those who hear him will just think "Old fool."

I respect Mel Gibson for refusing to trash his father in public. It wouldn't do any good, would just put a rift between father and son. Lots of us have family who are nutty in one way or another, often about religion or politics, and understand the situation. I think Mel's kind of a jerk but he's said he doesn't share all his father's opinions and that he himself is not an anti-Semite so it's silly to dwell on what his father says and try to hold Mel responsible.

[salin]

20. reading, however, Mel's assertion to Peggy Noonan

that his father never told any lies to him goes further than defending the father. Either we are to believe that his father just never mentioned these beliefs to Mel, or that Mel, too, believes these are factual. Certainly gives me pause when considering reports about the movie and the directorial decisions made in its making. Mel has a right to make any movie that he chooses. Just as others have the right to criticize - and point out that the perceived (by many) inflamatory nature of the movie is perhaps not inconsistent with his world views. Indeed I would think that it is an important piece of context when viewing the movie. Sort of the "hey take some of it (e.g., the portrayal of the jewish) with a grain of salt." It is always the story-tellers perogative to put their own spin on a story. Is it not legitimate, then, to understand what that spin is?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. And it's always easier to believe the worst about people, isn't it?

[salin]

27. what do you take that

response to Noonan to mean? There are only three assumptions to make:

Mel is lying to Noonan (could be... to keep family peace)
Mel is implying that Dad never spoke to him about the holocaust (possible)
Or Mel is subtley endorsing Dad's beliefs.

The whole question and comment would be comepletely unnoteworthy were there no controversial directorial choices made in this movie. I don't have a problem with controversial directorial decisions in movies - as it is always the artists choice to do so - their perspective on the story they are telling.

However, as with opinion pieces of columnists, items by historians, and even works of art... having the context of the perspective of the artist helps put those artistic decisions into context.

Thus the question of the perspective, at least to me, is relevant.

Am I bashing all over the place, no. Do I jump in all the gibson discussions? No. But do I blanketly believe that the statements are irrelevant to the work? No. Do I think this is the only work of art for which it is worth understanding the artists' persepctive? No.

[blm]

28. Gibson's father believes the same as my mother did when she was alive.

And YES, it is scary and more influential in Republican politics than many want to acknowledge.

You can ignore it if you like, but, these people have been GAINING power over the last 3 decades and they have succeeded in spreading their schismatic Catholicism all over this country.

My mother and her so called brand of catholicism actually built their own church in a heavily populated suburb of Cleveland, and it has been adding to its membership each year. These folks think the Pope is illegitimate.

[MAlibdem]

14. This is Mel Gibson's father

Who presumably had an impact on his son's worldview. One could speculate that Mel is a little more anti-semetic than he lets on, especially in conjunction with the movie he just released...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. Oh? And you know this because...??

[Mari333]

26. Yes I saw him in that interview saying

"Hey I dont hate the jews I pray for them all the time so their name can be written in the Book of Life.."
if thats not Tim Lahaye crap I dont know what is...!

[Lefty48197]

7. Sounds like another Bush voter to me

Mel tries to distance himself from his father's most bizarre comments, but he doesn't do enough to denounce this crap.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

8. In your opinion, how should Mel treat his father in public?

And by saying that he has personal friends with the Nazi ID numbers on their arms, what do YOU think he's really saying?

[Scairp]

9. That man is raving

And father or no, Mel should tell him to shut up.

[tibbiit]

10. I thought mel said to Piggy Noonan

That his father had never lied to him about issues.
Mel sucks and needs no slack cut for him, his family and their fucked beliefs.
tib

[evil_orange_cat]

11. I'll give Mel the benefit of the doubt... we all have crazy relatives ;)

plus, Gibson's career has been one without any bad marks... you don't become a big hollywood star by being anti-semitic. ;)

[jackstraw45]

16. Nice slur at the end of your post...

A wink at the end doesn't mean you're implying the JEWS RUN HOLLYWOOD.

Oh, you're just joking of course...my bad :eyes:

Besides, most people here are missing the point.

It's not whether Mel Gibson holds these views as much as his dad or not.

It's the fact that he doesn't publically refute his father. He dances around questions about what he believes as well. Loyalty to family is one thing but Gibson obviously doesn't see right from wrong in this situation.

[evil_orange_cat]

17. mmmm not so much

it was a suggestion that perhaps there are jewish people IN hollywood... :eyes:

plus, I'M JEWISH...

that's okay though, I don't blame you because you didn't know that personal information about me.

[Muddleoftheroad]

18. Publicly refute his father?

Your father dynamics must be interesting. If I did that, I would have NO family. Most of America believes in that "Honor thy father and Mother" thing.

[evil_orange_cat]

19. I agree... my dad is a ramptant UFO alien believer...

yet I don't refute him... people are entitled to their opinions... this is a free country (at least that's what I've been told). If people don't like the representations in the movie, then don't see it.

It's funny how the same people defending Howard Stern and citing the "don't like it, don't tune in" mantra are the same ones bashing Gibson.

btw, I think Mel likes the controversy. Remember the old media rule, "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

[ms_splash]

21. Well, if my father was a raving, racist lunatic

I think I might want to distance myself a little more from him.

Mel should be getting his father some psychiatric help.

[salin]

23. note the differences:

I respect my father, and that he holds and voices his own opinions.

vs.

My father has never told me a lie. (and what that implies - given the context of the statement in an interview with Noonan regarding his father's beliefs on this subject)

salin: One can show respect for one's father without having to publically embrace or outwardly refute his father.

[Beloved Citizen]

12. NewsMax Bashes Kerry For His Jewish Heritage

Is the Looney Toons right gearing up for an anti-Semitic whispering campaign against Kerry this fall? Since nothing else seems to be working for Addled W. Nitwit and his handlers, perhaps they've decided to take their reactionary agenda to its historical extreme?

And who knows, maybe they can get NewsMax client Mel Gibson to make the TV spots?

In the article "McCain And Kerry, Two Of A Kind," John LeBoutillier sneers:

"Right out of the box as a presidential candidate, it 'comes out' that Kerry's real name isn't Kerry at all; his real name is Kohn. It seems his grandfather, an Austrian immigrant named Kohn, had changed the family name to Kerry back in the early 1900s. Senator Kerry claimed never to have known he was Jewish until 2 months ago. Is this believeable?"

(I don't know, Mr. LeBoutillier. Why don't you take him down to the station for a little -um- questioning?)

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/8/141744.shtml

[Serenity-NOW]

13. Papers please!

Ve haf vays of making you talk. Gee I wonder if the tards in charge think they can emulate the nazis now that they've clearly established that Bush isn't Hitler. Man I want my country back...

[evil_orange_cat]

15. NewsMax is a piece of shit

fuck them...