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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 09:41 PM
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Jesus would have supported Priest marrying same sex...

No where in any of his words does he say anything against homosexuality, but he does say that his words "theoretically supersceded" the old testament.

Think about this. What if he had said things in favor of homosexuality and his apostles were so uncomfortable with those ideas that they never wrote about them or if they did were removed later when their works were published,



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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:14 PM
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1. come on you wussies...
Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 10:16 PM by AmyStrange
prove me wrong... I dare you,

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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:17 PM
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2. Agree with you. Jesus was a Capricorn....
Jesus was a capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoes

Long hair, beard and sandals
And a funky bunch of friends
Reckon we'd just nail him up
If he came down again

Chorus:
'cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty decent folks can frown on
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me

Eggheads cussing rednecks cussing
Hippies for their hair
Others laugh at straights who laugh at
Freaks who laugh at squares

Some folks hate the whites
Who hate the blacks who hate the klan
Most of us hate anything that
We don't understand

Chorus


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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:20 PM
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3. That was beautiful...

and well said Great Aunt (sniff),


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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:01 PM
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7. And it's true!
Thanks.

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:10 PM
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8. No one knows for sure when Jesus was born....
The church tried to match it to the Jewish holidays. The calendar was changed a few times also by the Roman church.

Some say, he was a Pisces.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:49 PM
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13. Some say that if the shepherds were watching their flocks by

night, it was lambing season and sheep lamb in the spring so he would have been born too late to be a Pisces, and was more likely Aries.


My grandmother was a Pisces and today is the 113th anniversary of her birth.
She died in 1967.

Granny, :yourock: and are still missed! P.S. Could you ask Jesus what he really thinks about gay marriage and let me know what he says? :loveya:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:22 PM
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4. I miss that movie Jesus Christ Superstar---I'd rather see that
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:27 PM
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12. Saw it and like the music.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:23 PM
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5. I think a lot of stuff was not only removed at a later date, but
new information added as well, but that's for the scholars to unravel.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:34 PM
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6. true... but it's still worth considering...

I mean Jesus lived for thirty years and all we got is at most 24 or so pages from Luke.

Lots of stuff missing. Interestingly enouh the acts and letters of the apostles encompasses many many many more pages. Like they were trying fit their beliefs into what Jesus said.

I'll trust what Jesus said a lot more than anyone's interpretation of what he said.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:11 PM
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9. Like his whole teenage years
Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 11:11 PM by mac2
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 03:21 AM
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16. He was a typical teen,
thought he know it all. Spent allot of time in the bathroom with the door locked.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:20 AM
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14. But his ministry lasted only three years, so the focus is on
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 12:27 AM by DemBones DemBones
events from those years. My guess is that he worked with his stepfather, Joseph, as a carpenter for many years, probably until he began his ministry. Joseph isn't mentioned after Jesus was twelve or so, when he stayed behind in Jerusalem, driving Mary and Joseph out of their minds with worry, as teenagers often do. Unlike most runaways, he was hanging out in the Temple, teaching the rabbis.

EDIT: Most of this I recall from Sunday School but when I said "my guess was" I was talking about the idea that Jesus waited for Joseph's death before beginning his ministry. It also occurs to me just now that the 40 days he spent in the wilderness sounds like something that would go well with pondering the death of an important family member. I guess it's time for me to do a review course in Bible. :shrug:

So it's assumed that Joseph died before Jesus began his ministry; he was a good bit older than Mary, who was probably 14 when Jesus was born. I can't remember how much older he's thought to have been, but I think 10-20 years, maybe more.

Perhaps his death was what Jesus had been waiting for, in the sense that he was being a good son and helping with his step-dad's business. Then Joseph died and he could do his real Father's work. Wasn't it back in the Temple when the pubescent Jesus gave Mary some lip, saying he had to be about his Father's business? I think that's right, that that was his reason for staying behind in Jerusalem when his parents started home.

Re: Jesus's words vs. those of the Apostles -- I like red-letter Bibles myself -- the ones where all Jesus's words are printed in red. I still have one my grandmother gave me when I was 8. And I think Paul was the worst about adding his own beliefs, but suppose it was inevitable that Jesus would be interpreted and re-interpreted. As it says somewhere in the New Testament, "We see through a glass but darkly now. . ." which could apply to what we know about Jesus's teachings. Much isn't there and attention must be paid to translation differencea.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:25 PM
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11. Religious scholars said, the sun revolves around the earth.
Therefore the earth is the center of God's universe.

Galileo suffered a lot over that one.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:45 AM
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15. Well, let's hope this time around that they are not under the thumb
of the Vatican or other religious authority and that they have integrity.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:18 PM
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10. A group of theology men appointed by King James
Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 11:22 PM by mac2
sat around a table translated the Bible to their liking. Some words not meaning the same at all. Let's say, they took political sides about some of it. King James did it his way.

You can't take any phrase or word as being the only way to interrupt the meaning.

Some of the books were written 200 years later..sorry, I don't know which ones.
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