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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:16 PM
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Does The Religious Right REALLY Think JESUS Is Pro-Death Penalty?
Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 03:18 PM by K8-EEE
Honestly, sometimes I think I will short circuit from Irony Overload in GWB America....the same ones boo-hooing at the Passion will vote for Cheerful Executioner GWB?

Does this make any kind of sense at all?
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:20 PM
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1. Yep!
Kill, Kill, Kill....all those sinners.
Then praise the lord and pass the potatoes.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:21 PM
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2. The Religious Right will make Jesus dance to any tune they want

and have done for decades.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:23 PM
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3. I think Jesus was pro death penalty
Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 03:29 PM by Kamika
Jesus made it clear we shouldn't judge people so easily without looking at ourselves first.. but he never denounced the death penalty to people that deserved it
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:28 PM
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7. He that is without sin...
...should cast the first stone.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:29 PM
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8. Actually he did in most of his verse
Turn the other cheek, Forgive those that trespass, Let he that is without sin cast the first stone, Love thy enemy, etc. etc. Never once did he ever say killing another was ever acceptable. Every thing he said was forgiveness not vengence. Judge not lest ye be judged.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:30 PM
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9. yes..
But never said "if someone wants to kill you, let him" etc

Turn the other cheek was merely saying.. if someone did something bad to you (which wasn't that serious) don't hold a grudge
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:34 PM
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12. Which Wasn't That Serious?
Where did he say that??
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:48 PM
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20. Well, actually
in the Garden of Gethsemane, when the Romans came to get him, one of the disciples drew a sword to fight for him and Jesus told him to put it away.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:38 PM
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15. He Was A VICTIM Of The Death Penalty!
What do you mean he never denounced it? Forgive them, they know not what they do....hypocrite, take the plank out of your own eye....let he who has not sinned throw the first stone, live by the sword die by the sword. Where did he say the Death Penalty was a good idea?? He was a victim of it!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:42 PM
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18. i never got that impression.
sounds like something we might think but not jesus.

peace
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:28 PM
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26. Thou shall not kill....
Kinda says it all doesn't it?
Turn the other cheek..Kinda follows in not killing.
jesus preached forgiveness, not retribution.
Vengence is mine said theLord...Not the state's.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:23 PM
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4. Blessed are the contradictory
for they can always turn shit into shinola
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:32 PM
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10. LOL!
Thanks for the laugh, NSMA! :thumbsup:

Jesus didn't but the fundamentalist christians are all about the punishment. They need that big paddle in the sky hanging over them to help them act right.

Sick if you ask me. :crazy:
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:25 PM
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5. Like 95% of the human species they have completely
misinterpreted the religious symbols and used them for their own agenda. These people can delude themselves into believing anything.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:26 PM
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6. The religious right is basically insane
and they can rationalize anything.

It's like a form of schizophrenia, seriously, where you have a closed-loop argument for all your delusions.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:33 PM
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11. If Jesus was here today the Rel. Rt. would reject him as being a communist
His "Christianity" would be unacceptable to them....
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OnceBlind Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:36 PM
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13. If someone showed up right now
nd said, "Hey, I am Jesus", I don't think I would believe him either. I imagine the Bible gives specifics on identifying Jesus. I can't believe it wouldn't.
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:40 PM
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16. Hope somebody doesn't get 'Left Behind"
:evilgrin:
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OnceBlind Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:42 PM
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17. Left behind?
Behind what?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:58 PM
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22. I said if JESUS showed up....not an imposter...they WOULD NOT ACCEPT HIM
All the hard line, mean-spirited beliefs they espouse are not what Jesus was preaching!
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MidwestMomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:03 PM
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23. The religious right would probably call him an imposter
because they would not like his message.

I agree with you that the religious right would not appreciate Jesus' message of love and tolerance. There is very little of that in their message.
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Crachet2004 Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:37 PM
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14. Once you start 'believing', you must stop thinking...
otherwise, some of the inconsistencies might drive you insane.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:46 PM
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19. Being a fundamentalist has never
REALLY been about following Jesus, except in a self-aggrandizing, sentimental way.

Their ministers tell them what to think, both in the sermons and in carefully chosen "Bible studies" that never get around to the passages that would make the typical fundamentalist's head explode.

That's why fundamentalists get all riled up about abortion (which is not mentioned in the New Testament) but vote against tax relief for the poor in Alabama (conveniently ignoring all of Jesus' and the Hebrew prophets' condemnations of the rich who exploit the poor).
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OnceBlind Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:52 PM
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21. Not to get in a heated discussion here, but
I am from Alabama and I can tell you that tax reform actually had little to do with helping the poor. There were a whole lot of problems with that whole reform bit. There are far better ways to assist the poor.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:09 PM
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24. didnt do anything to help the two others being killed with him
and they even commented on how they had it coming while he did not.

scripturally, no problems with the death penalty.

turn the other cheek has to do with your personal reaction to "trespasses against you" as opposed to society.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:51 PM
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28. He Was Not In The Position To But He Said
When the thief said, "Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom."

Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth today, you will be with Me in paradise."
(Luke 23:32-43)

He had the opportunity earlier to rat on one of the theives they let go to save himself but didn't do it.

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Vas Liz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:28 PM
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25. I believe he is
From what I understand, a good number of christians equate Jesus=God. Considering the god in the christian/jewish/muslim religions has kill/rape/mutilation/terror/etc counts that rival anything Hitler or Stalin could ever have dreamed of, yes he's a killer.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:45 PM
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27. When Cain killed his brother, The Big Big Dog did not kill Cain.
Just banished him.

Seems like there's a precedent there: the first murder, and the first punishment for murder, handed down by the highest court.

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:51 PM
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29. Excellent point!.....It stands to reason God would not be for capitol
punishment and your example proves it!....I'll have to remember this example....
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 05:04 PM
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30. They've been "saved"
that gives them the freedom to do whatever they
want and if they just ask for forgiveness and take
"Jesus" into their heart they will be forgiven again
and again.

I wonder if Jesus is in their heart when they are
lusting for blood?
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 05:14 PM
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31. "The Religious Right is NEITHER"
as seen on a bumper sticker at my local Thriftway recently.

Couldn't agree more.

Jax
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