Slaughter--Why Why was it necessary?

[swinney]

Bush invaded Iraq a nation known to be unarmed. No planes. No tanks.

The target was SADDAM!

Please inform me why it was necessary to go into cities all over Iraq And kill thousands of innocents if Saddam was the target and known to be in Baghdad.

Why not go to Baghdad, surround it, and get Saddam.

Recall Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld speaking about "Shock and Awe".

It was to display our well known air power.

It was to scare other nations in the area.

It was to make me puke.It was so terrible. So inhumane.

What is wrong with our nation that we will tolerate such killing?
clarence swinney burlington nc

[Redleg]

1. Yes but Iraqis aren't real people like us Amuricans.

Who cares we kill 10,000 or so civilians with our shock-and-awe? We gave them freedom- they better damn well appreciate it! (Sarcasm alert!)

I agree with you. Our media has been AWOL in covering the number of dead civilians, many of them children. But if the media did do their job, I believe many Americans would just shrug and say "Oh well- better them than us." It makes me sick to my stomach.

[Shoedogg]

2. Most people wouldn't accept this....

...that's why the civilian death tolls are never reported.

[still_one]

3. Hell, they don't even report our casualty count

which by some conservative sources is in excess of 10000.

[Mari333]

4. and the slaughter of the civilians and the soldiers deaths and the

wounded wont be shown to the US public...
thats why they sneak the caskets in at night
thats why they wont allow reporters at Walter Reed
thats why the occupation has been sanitized
thats why no funerals are shown
thats why no one cares
out of sight, out of mind, out of the press.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery2.htm
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

[BeFree]

5. "What is wrong with our nation?"

You had to ask......

America, imo, is like a lynch-mob these days. America perceives that we were raped on 9/11, and since then the crude frontier form of American justice - the lynch-mob - sprang into high gear.

The problem is.... the MIHOP rapist is the leader of the pack. Until such time as the truth of 9/11 comes out, the lynch-mob will rule.

[rfkrocks]

6. Manipulate

us is all they intend. America is asleep but the people are begining to stir. Now the hunt intensifies for the nations number one mass muderer (bin Laden). Why was justice delayed for those years? Simple politics. You can see it they have even planned a convention on the bones of 9/11. as if only repukes died there. parade the world trade dead but hide the iraq dead. it is so damm evil. The battle for america is upon us. Vote bush out.

[salinen]

7. The unjustified slaughter

of brown people has become the new reality show. Thugs enjoying murder from the couch. This regime must end today or America must end to protect the world from it's paranoid blood lust.

[Wcross]

8. Unarmed?

Give me a break!
"Why not go to Baghdad, surround it, and get Saddam."

Ask the men of the 3rd infantry, the 101st airborne or the Marine corps if Iraq was "unarmed". Seems to me that good men died fighting an "unarmed" Iraq.

I was against the war before it happened and still see no justification for it. Iraq could have been handled without American military intervention.

To say Iraq was unarmed and we could have walked up to Baghdad and took Saddam is naive.

[Mari333]

9. It should have never happened and it was a waste and still is

wasting lives on both sides daily.
I spit on the comfortable cowards who sit in their leather chairs and swill brandy, or pop open beer cans on their couches as they support this invasion, and support the occupation and justify the slaughter of the kids on both sides.
In fact, I hate them for it, and hate is not a word I toss around lightly.

[Malva Zebrina]

27. OK armed with rifles

and grenades. Maybe a few out of date scuds, if any. No air force, no navy and a meager army--most of their males were killed in the first Gulf War, and many children killed by the brutal sanctions and not growing up to be fighting men. Please--the onus is on the United STates--the superior, superior wealthy invader, superbly equipped with every known fighting instrument avialable, who waited until the UN declared there were no WMD and no weapons at all except those they were allowed under the strict regulations. The US knew what Iraq had--and bravely, ever so bravely bombed the hell out it, causing the deaths of thousandds of civilians.

Oh the humanity.

[Muddleoftheroad]

10. Math

The definition of "no" tanks or planes is a little bad on the math part of the ledger. You should do some reading.

[bpilgrim]

11. 0 planes, 0 ships, Surrounded and BOMBED almost DAILY for over a DECADE

then declared unarmed in regards to WMD.

that adds up to being virtually unarmed to MOST FOLKS but some will use ANY pretex for WAR as we ALL should understand by now.

peace

[Muddleoftheroad]

13. They had planes, they had tanks

They apparently had no WMD. So what? That wasn't the comment in the post.

[July]

14. Where do you get info about planes?

I have read more than once that no planes were launched by Iraq. What is correct? Do you (or anyone else) have links about this)?

Don't know anything about tanks.

[Muddleoftheroad]

15. Iraq

We destroyed some planes on the ground, not sure about the air. I know we destroyed tanks in the trip to Baghdad. I saw some burning on CNN and they weren't ours.

[July]

16. OK, they had planes, but didn't use them?

That squares with what I've read about none launched. I would assume they did possess planes, like almost any other country.

[Muddleoftheroad]

17. They may have launched some

They did periodically before the war just to antagonize our fighter pilots. But mostly, the head of their air force sat out the war.

[bpilgrim]

19. 0 planes 0 ships 0 WMDs = UNARMED

that were combat ready... the hulks rusting in their hangers don't count ESPECIALLY if they can't even fly if they wanted to.

peace

[Muddleoftheroad]

22. Can we avoid this endless BS?

They had tanks. They had planes. They had no WMD. Nor did I support the attack. But I do like keeping the record straight.

[Minstrel Boy]

26. headline: "Missing Iraqi air force turns up"

Washington — Some of Iraqi's missing air force has turned up down below.

Search teams, some hunting for Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, found dozens of fighter jets from Iraq's air force buried beneath the sands, U.S. officials say.

At least one Cold War-era MiG-25 interceptor was found when searchers saw the tops of its twin tail fins poking up from the sands, one Pentagon official familiar with the hunt said. He said search teams have found several MiG-25s and Su-25 ground attack jets buried at al-Taqqadum air field west of Baghdad.

Iraq's air squadrons were a no-show during the war, and U.S. military officials supposed their pilots stayed grounded because they believed they were overmatched by U.S. and British air power.

Various officials differed in opinion as to whether the buried aircraft could ever fly again. Many of the planes were buried intact with minimal efforts to protect them from the sand.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030801.wiraq0801/BNStory/International/

[bpilgrim]

20. they had planes that couldn't fly, something to do with an EMBARGO

and we knew it...

peace

[Muddleoftheroad]

21. They had planes. They chose not to fly.

Something having to do with fear of being shot down.

[buckeye1]

12. Why didn't Dean stop it!

He let us down.

[seemslikeadream]

18. Cause Uncle Bill Bush needed more money

All in the(Profiteering, First) Family

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm

[Must_B_Free]

23. They also could have nabbed Koresh

when he went to the store to buy milk.

Shock and Awe is what the Beast needs to control us.

[Pobeka]

24. This is apparently what the military wanted to do, nab Saddam quick...

I did not see it but I heard frontline had a show on this just last week, which purports the military wanted to do a quick paratroop, paratank type operation, surrounding Saddam's known hideouts and very quickly severe Saddams's operations and put his whole administration in jail.

On edit: -- It was Rumsfield, Cheney et. al. that forced the slow march to Bahgdad and the shock and awe. I'll bet Haliburton, Brown & Root, and Bechtel made a lot more money the way it was implemented vs. a quick capture of Saddam.

[Mattforclark]

25. Schok and aww is ke-wel

"Recall Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld speaking about "Shock and Awe"."

drool.

"What is wrong with our nation that we will tolerate such killing?"

picks nose. Nods head vigorously. :(