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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:24 PM
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Does anyone get the feeling that the right wing is imploding?
under their corruption and hypocracy? Maybe it's the bandits who stole the right wing for their crazy out of touch fantasies.

I called this temporary right wing power surge a dying gasp several years ago. I think it's happening as I foresaw.

Basically, technology has allowed us to grasp reason, logic, facts, information and humanity to the extent of destroying the sway of older forms of power. Mind control is failing.

The Gay marriage Vs. The Passion is the Showdown of the century. Either you are motivated by love or terror - pick one.

And I can't believe the final failed fantasies they are rolling out in their last days - just for comfirmation that this stuff will never float. Hastert running with his tail between his legs after trying to do the bidding of his masters is the signal. They are powerless and better pack the heck up and get out of town. The 911 stonewalling has the same appearance of "OJ trying to find the real killers"

Abandon ship! Lock the peaseants below. Get my private jet and ring the caymans time to go on the run.

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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:26 PM
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1. not at all..
I think its going to be a very tough battle and its wishful thinking that the rw will collapse en masse. they are going to fight kicking and screaming... and it has only just begun.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:26 PM
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2. I don't see it that way.
No group with that much money and influence is going to be left behind in the dust.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:34 PM
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4. Naah - right wing media is dead
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 11:37 PM by Must_B_Free
Coulter - failed
Dennis Miller - canceled
Fox News - laughing stock
Clear Channel - facist
Rush - disgraced
Bush - failure, liar
Cheney - thief, con

Howard Stern - persecuted hero

The right wing is a marketing failure. It just like the tech bubble - POPPED. OVER. DONE.

Money is looking for somewhere else to go. We can't afford this model that has for three years proven failure after failure. THis doesn't work. Abort. Eject. Get some money to the middle class to BUY our freakin PRODUCTS!
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:39 PM
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5. Are you kidding or what?
Coulter is best selling..
Fox is continually rated #1 on cable.
Rush is still nationwide with millions of shitto heads..
Bushitoco may be failures in your eyes.. but the election will be close... and they still control the house and senate. They are exactly 1 vote away from complete control of the Supreme Court.

Dennis Miller.. was an idiot before he even started and has never been on top.. so he cant be compared.

I wouldnt be counting chickens before they hatch.. you post does not recognize realities.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:54 PM
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9. Coulter isn't best selling
Her books are bought en mass by the conservative book club and sold for $1.00. If you look at the NY Times list there is a + by her books. That means they are bought by huge quantities. The NY Times is wrong for even including them. The same goes for Zell Millers book, and a number of other "Conservative Best Sellers."
:kick:
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 12:01 AM
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10. That's right - it's a Gone with the Wind Set
The right wing is a massive facade propped up by some two by fours in the back. And people are finally seeing through it.

The Media has done a 360 in the past weeks because they just couldn't sell the lies anymore.
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 12:38 AM
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14. Dennis Miller was cancelled?
That's his new CNBC show? Really? Since when?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 12:53 AM
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16. Dennis Miller isn't cancelled - Yet
But they're already retooling like crazy, put him on 2 week hiatus which all of us hopes turns out to be permanent hiatus. When he comes back they're going to try an audience. Wonder if they can get 100 Freepers a night.

Here's DU LBN thread on the hiatus and retooling.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=387875
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 12:49 AM
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15. you may need to not measure how the whole nation perceives things
based on the perceptions here at DU.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:28 PM
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3. I think they're imploding simply because they were in the.......
minority to begin with and they just don't have the stamina to keep going uphill (backwards) all the time.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:44 PM
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6. even if we win the presidency,
they'll still control both houses of congress, the supremes, most of the federal courts, and the media.

plus, they've successfully raided the treasury to the point where the next president will have very little leeway to spend on anything. president kerry will be forced to hand republicans the tax hike issue, and he will not be able to offset it with lavish spending.

he will have to be an austerity administration, and NO ONE likes that.

both political and fiscally, the damage from this administration will last far, far longer than their four illegitimate years....
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:47 PM
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7. I think
..parts of it are. The lies are starting to unravel....its a beautiful thing to watch.
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mjjoe Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:48 PM
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8. It will take time
I do believe eventually the far Right will have less power than it does today. I have a few reasons for this belief:

1. Aging population, part 1. The GOP as of late has been very good at jeopardizing the future of those who are aging but not wealthy. I can see a period of severe backlash among older voters as federal programs designed to help the elderly are ultimately destroyed by the Republicans' efforts to "reform" them.

2. Aging population, part 2. Sorry to be so grim, but most of the hardest of the hard-core conservatives are older men. Eventually they will not be alive anymore. Though there are some replacements waiting in the wings, I don't think they will be as strong a force after the largest generation, the Baby Boomers, shuffles off this mortal coil.

3. Changing demographics in the old Confederacy. The traditionally conservative South is experiencing a growth in population thanks in part to people from other regions moving there. Eventually, these less conservative voters will hold enough sway to actually influence statewide elections.

Though I don't think the Right will go away for some time. It may take decades before their influence is significantly reduced.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 12:05 AM
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11. But after that, we have to deal with our real enemies
Remember back before 2000? Everyone knew that the real problems were with the WTO and the IMF, free trade, corporate dominance, the despoiling of the environment -- all that stuff.

This whole business with the extreme right wing is just a temporary sideshow. It's been useful to the left to the extent of getting people out of their apathy and working together. But the worst possible result would be for everyone to get complacent again once the Bushites are gone.

The ultimate game involves what happens as the oil runs out. Will there be a new feudalism of lords and serfs, with only the privileged few continue to enjoy a 20th century standard of living? Will there be endless wars and repression over the remaining oil reserves? Or will there be a peaceful world-wide movement of equals working towards new solutions and a sustainable system?

That's where the real battle lies, and the current flapping around by a lot of Rapture freaks and Joe McCarthy groupies has very little actual significance.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 12:11 AM
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12. I've been calling it the Gay Marriage "Crisis" and the Cine-Rapture
Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 12:12 AM by rocknation
And I agree--I believe the result was supposed to be a nation of instant Jesus freaks who would welcome anti-abortion, anti-evolution, and pro-Constitutional Restoration Act legislation with open arms!

:headbang:
rocknation
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 12:14 AM
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13. if they get enough rope
they surely they will hang themselves.
They are so deluded thinking that they're God's chosen in the world - won't they be surprised when the creator of all things has had enough of their nonsense too.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:18 AM
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17. Use spell check, the substance of the message is great but suffers
from poor spelling............sorry but it really affects the overall impact
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:42 AM
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18. The RW is fragmented but when they see it'll be close
in Nov. they will probably unite again. They won't yield their power w/o a fight.

I hope otherwise.
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