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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:43 PM
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Bush REALLY Did It This Time!
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 11:53 PM by Octafish
By now, you'd think Smirk has done it all to make me furious. Bush:

• Deserted during Vietnam.
• Treated like the son of the president in ALL his busted business deals and dealings with the police.
• Served as a crooked governor.
• Stole 2000 election thanks to Poppy's CIA connected pals and Supreme Court.
• Enriched his friends through the use of public office.
• Plundered the earth's treasure to benefit same.
• Penured the middle class for generations to come.
• Asleep, at best, before 9-11.
• Complicit, most likely, for 9-11.
• Used 9-11 to frighten the nation into abandoning its Constitutional rights for feigned "safety."
• Wrapped himself and his toad BFEE swarm in OUR flag.
• So he could illegally invade another country -- BUSH said Iraq had WMDs!
• Then changed that to "Programs."

But you know what the crazy moron did THIS time?

George W Bush REFUSED to testify before the 9-11 Commission in the OPEN. He demand, if he is to speak at all, he’ll give the two co-chairs an hour of his time! I could just spit!

Gee. We have the nice former Gov Kean, the Republican who has extensive business dealings with the Saudis and former US Rep Hamilton, the Democrat who helped let Reagan and BUSH SR off the hook for Iran-contra.

So, what is BUSH JR hiding from the public? That he KNEW beforehand? Yes, he is, because the next question, logically, is "Why, knowing what you did, you didn't defend the country?"

There's no answer he could give, not without providing one of those "statements that can be used against you in a court of law." You see, the smirking fraud knows he's guilty of TREASON!

That's why I call him "The Little Turd from Crawford." The name fits, just like it did for the likes of Hitler and Stalin and Mao and the Houses of Saud and bin Laden and Marcos and Noriega and Hussein and all the rest of his family’s business partners before him - - turds ALL and members ALL of the BFEE. And like these "made" men, "made" in the most infamous sense, George W Bush has EARNED it.

- - Octafish
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:45 PM
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1. Les Aspin? From Wisconsin?
I thought he died a while ago. A different Aspin?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:52 PM
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4. Good catch, salin! ...meant HAMILTON.
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 11:55 PM by Octafish
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:19 AM
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6. Hamilton
is from my neck of the woods - at one time represented part of the home town. Knew my father. General impression is very moderate, cautious, and in the case of the iran contra... there were two camps - coverup for coverup sake... and closedown "because after Watergate... the "people" (and system) couldn't take the full knowledge of what happened". Always viewed Hamilton to be in the latter category. Don't know how he views it today (eg seen the light and regretted? or still very cautious/moderate?).
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:49 AM
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11. Good people in Indiana...
... My sister was born in Washington. I trust your dad's measure of the man more than the impressions reporters and spinmeisters create. Lee was asking the right questions. Perhaps he can convince Bob Kerrey to remain on the commission. I hope Lee and Kean and the entire 9-11 Commission make everything public - - including Bush's testimony as well as the questions Bush refuses to answer.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:55 AM
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12. Hamilton is compromised
The Bush Crime Family has him in the palm of their hands.

Why do you think Cheney and Bush will only testify behind closed doors to either him or former bin laden business associate Kean?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:46 PM
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2. So true.
So sad.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:03 AM
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14. Here's a graphic reminder...
...courtesy of the BringEmOn collection:



The Evil Empire That Couldn't Cheat Straight.

Remember when, Cleita?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=875102
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:13 AM
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17. That was a really great time
:grouphug:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:46 PM
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3. "The Little Turd from Crawford"
Octafish, that is perfect. Thanks, after that disgusting disply tonight on CNN this just hit the spot.

You are right, he can't testify. He is guilty of treason.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 05:46 PM
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32. You're welcome, MuseRider!
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 05:47 PM by Octafish
Down with the BFEE and Reichprinz Smirkelgrüber!

And from the "Takes One to Know One Department:

"...the caricature they made of Dan in ‘88 is George W. It’s him. It wasn’t true about Dan. But it is him. ... A guy that never accomplished anything. ... Everything he got, Daddy took care of...."

- - Marilyn Quayle in The Arizona Republic

EDIT: Typotatoe
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:06 AM
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5. Bush is such an arrogant pig. he doesn't do shit all day but read
Roves prepared speeches. While he's shuffled around like a fucking king in Air Force One each day to read some more lies for the cameras.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:27 AM
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7. Is Kerry gonna CALL HIM ON IT??? More than likely, this is not gonna
play out good for Bush. He is gambling he can get away with it. Got no choice but to stone wall with these kind of rear guard action. Pretend he is cooperating but in fact, he is stone walling.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:03 PM
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37. Opi... even the BFEE dung-sniffer David Corn is now pro-Kerry...
... you know the tide is turning when even the "left" leaning pundits of the Mighty Whorelitzer come out of their cubicles to bleat ...

What's Right With Kerry

by David Corn

In the heat of battle, with his campaign crumbling, Howard Dean lashed out at John Kerry. First, he called the leader in the Democratic presidential race a "Republican." Then he said, "When Senator Kerry's record is examined by the public at a more leisurely time...he's going to turn out to be just like George Bush."

Just like George Bush? It is true that Kerry, another Yalie and Skull and Bones alum, has voted in favor of NAFTA and other corporate-friendly trade pacts, that he once raised questions about affirmative action (while still supporting it), that he has, like almost every Democratic senator, accepted contributions from special-interest lobbyists (while being one of the few to eschew political action committee donations), that he voted to grant Bush the authority to invade Iraq. But this hardly makes him Bush lite. There is, as evidence, his nineteen-year Senate record, during which he has voted consistently in favor of abortion rights and environmental policies, opposed Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, led the effort against drilling in the Alaskan wilderness, pushed for higher fuel economy standards, advocated boosting the minimum wage and pressed for global warming remedies. But what distinguishes Kerry's career are key moments when he displayed guts and took tough actions that few colleagues would imitate. One rap on Kerry is that he is overly cautious and conventional. He's no firebrand on the stump, nor does he come across as the most passionate and exciting force for change. But his history in Washington includes episodes in which he demonstrated a willingness to confront hard issues, to challenge power, to pursue values rather than political advantage, to take risks for the public interest.

Kerry arrived in the Senate in 1985. This Vietnam War hero turned antiwar leader had been lieutenant governor of Massachusetts. But he entered the body more as the prosecutor he had been in the late 1970s after graduating from Boston College law school. In early 1986 Kerry's office was contacted by a Vietnam vet who alleged that the support network for the CIA-backed Nicaraguan contras (who were fighting against the socialist Sandinistas in power) was linked to drug traffickers. Kerry doubted that the Reagan Administration, obsessed with supporting the contras, would investigate such charges. He pushed for a Senate inquiry and a year later, as chairman of a Foreign Relations subcommittee, obtained approval to conduct a probe.

It was not an easy ride. Reagan Justice Department officials sought to discredit and stymie his investigation. Republicans dismissed it. One anti-Kerry effort used falsified affidavits to make it seem his staff had bribed witnesses. The Democratic staff of the Senate Iran/contra committee--which showed little interest in the contra drug connection--often refused to cooperate. "They were fighting us tooth and nail," recalls Jack Blum, one of Kerry's investigators. "We had the White House and the CIA against us on one side and our colleagues in the Senate on the other. But Kerry told us, 'Keep going.' He didn't let this stuff faze him."

CONTINUED...

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040315&s=corn
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:32 AM
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8. Octafish do you think you can get any more furious?
Just when you think you've heard it all

William Bush is a director of Engineered Support Systems Inc., a supplier of high-tech military goods to -- well, to the highest bidder. Just last year they sold $13 million worth of advanced radar gear to upgrade communist China's fleet of fighter jets -- you know, the kind that force down U.S. spy planes with aplomb. This is just par for the family course, however, William's brother, Prescott Jr. is head of the America-China Chamber of Commerce, while Pretzel's brother Neil is in bed with the son of former communist chieftan Jiang Zemin.

But helping arm a dictatorial regime that tyrannizes its own people, invades its neighbors and actually possesses large stockpiles of WMD is just a sideline for Uncle Bill. (Although, again it's a family tradition -- after all, it's what Papa George did for years with his special little friend, Saddam.) Mostly, Bill's ESSI does boffo box office with nephew Georgie's Pentagon and that new family investment opportunity, the Department of Homeland Security. And this is where those phantom Iraqi WMD's -- so maniacally hyped by Junior -- come in, investigator Margie Burns reports in the Prince George's Journal.

Among its many wares for the "warfighter" (the firm follows current Pentagon usage in replacing the ancient and honorable name of "soldier" with this nerdy adolescent jargon), ESSI markets a "Chemical Biological Protected Shelter System" unit -- a mobile shed that can provide a non-contaminated area for command centers of field hospitals during a WMD attack.In the very first week of George's war, with the television generals warning every hour of impending bioterror doom hurtling toward the troops, Uncle Bill's boys raked in $19 million for a shipment of CBP units, an ESSI press release reports. This was on top of $44 million worth of the anti-WMD units ordered during Pretzel's panic-mongering before the war.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/02/27/120.html
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:40 AM
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9. "warfighter" sounds like "firefighter"...
... a public servant carrying out the public's safety business.

My soon-to-be 7-year-old son asked tonight what the vice president does.

I said the veep is a like a president-in-waiting in case something happens to the president.

So, he asks, "Who is the vice president?"

I told him "Cheney."

My boy said, "That means he puts chains on people."

I couldn't believe it. He summed up the BFEE. From the mouths of babes...
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:25 PM
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39. You must be so proud!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:12 PM
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40. Truly, I am. The little guy's not been coached...
... in the ways of that part of the world. He likes dinosaurs and the rain forest and "all forms of life." Only recently has he started to ask about politics. I hope that I won't have to tell him too much until he's done with his junior year of college.

BTW: I, too, miss Joseph Campbell. Your excellent sig quote also is from the Tao, Jane English and Gia Fu Feng's translation.

Tao Te Ching

Chapter Fifty-Six


Those who know do not talk.
Those who talk do not know.
Keep your mouth closed,
Guard your senses.
Temper your sharpness.
Simplify your problems.
Mask your brightness.
Be at one with the dust of the earth.
This is the primal union.
He who has achieved this state
Is unconcerned with friends and enemies,
With good and harm, with honor and disgrace.
This therefore is the highest state of man.


http://www.daily-tao.com/

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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:09 PM
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44. Cheney = he puts chains on people
I will never see that name or man again without thinking of your little Octafish Jr.'s brilliant summary.

Wow!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:28 PM
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27. Engineered Support inks $4.1 Million order from Marines
Engineered Support Systems Inc. has received a $4.1 million contract from the U.S. Marines Corps to supply decontamination equiment.

The order, received under the company's agreement with Alfrred Karcher GmbH company, calls for 200 muliti-purpose decontamination systems and 15 person decontamination showers, spare parts and accessories.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2004/01/12/daily67.html

If you would like to see a picture of this war profiteer

http://www.engineeredsupport.com/directors.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:28 PM
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43. There's something to be said for keeping it all in the crime family.
Thanks for the heads up on, um, brother Bill. What a fine smile. Isn't St. Louis where the Bush's sold stuff to the Confederacy from? Or was it the Union? It's so confusing, so many brothers, so much money.

From Disinfopedia, where they link to a lot of these players and playthings:

William H.T. Bush ("Bucky" Bush; William Trotter Bush) (1938- ) is the brother of former President George Herbert Walker Bush and uncle of President George W. Bush.<1> Bush chairs Bush-O’Donnell & Co., "a holding company with interests in insurance, money management, investment banking and manufacturing,"<2> of St. Louis, Missouri.

Bush is a Trustee of the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation<3>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bush is a member of the Board of Directors at Engineered Support Systems:

"William H.T. Bush, is chairman of the St. Louis-based investment firm, Bush O'Donnell & Co., which he founded in 1986. Previously, he was president and CEO of Boatmen's National Bank of St. Louis and began his career with the Hartford National Bank and Trust Co. in Connecticut. Bush has been a Director of the Company since 2000 and serves as a director of Mississippi Valley Bancshares, Inc., Maritz, Inc., RightChoice Managed Care, Inc., DT Industries, Inc. and The Lord Abbett family of Mutual Funds."

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=William_H.T._Bush
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:58 PM
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31. All in the (Profiteering, First) Family
Common Dreams
by Margie Burns

On Jan. 17, 2003, the company announced orders from the Air Force and the Marines for these units, complete with Nuclear Biological Chemical Kits, in preparation for secret arsenals of WMDs hidden, the White House insisted, by Saddam Hussein.

On Jan. 22, 2003, President Bush delivered one of several speeches in St.Louis. On Jan. 28, 2003, he delievered his State of the Union address, including the famous accusations linking Saddam's Iraq to WMDs and illicit nuclear material.

On March 26 the company announced an Army order for its "Chemical Biological Protection Shelter" systems, bringing Army orders for this product to a total of 204 units. On March 25, the Bush administration requested supplemental funding from Congress "to cover military operations, relief and reconstrution activies in Iraq, and ongoing operations in the global war on terrorism."

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:20 PM
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41. Ten-hut! Advanced Profits Recquisition all present and accounted for!
It's the billions -- check, trillions -- of dollars that are missing and unaccounted for. Thanks for a great article, seemslikeadream!

For those new to the subject, there's some pretty good indication of where a lot of that money might have gone in this article from 12 years ago. Too bad so many well-lubed pipes of the Mighty Whorelitzer elected to keep quiet when it was first published ...

The Family That Preys Together -
the Bush Family


by Jack Colhoun
CovertAction Quarterly, 1992

EXCERPT...

George Jr.'s BCCI Connection

"This is an incredible deal, unbelievable for this small company," analyst Charles Strain told Forbes magazine, describing the oil production sharing agreement the Harken Energy Corporation signed in January 1990 with Bahrain.

Under the terms of the deal, Harken was given the exclusive right to explore for gas and oil off the shores of the Gulf island nation. If gas or oil were found in waters near two of the world's largest gas and oil fields Harken wouldhave exclusive marketing and transportation rights for the energy resources. Truly an "incredible deal" for a company that had never drilled an offshore well.

Strain failed to point out, however, the one fact that puts the Harken deal in focus: George W. Bush, the eldest son of George and Barbara Bush of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C., is a member of Harken's board of directors, a consultant and a stockholder in the Texas-based company. In light of this connection, the deal makes more sense.

The involvement of Junior - George Walker Bush's childhood nickname-with Harken is a walking conflict of interest. His relationship to President Bush, rather than any business acumen, made him a valuable asset for Harken, the Republican Party benefactors, Middle East oil sheikhs and covert operators who played a part in Harken's Bahrain deal. In fact Junior's track record as an oilman is pretty dismal. He began his career in Midland, Texas, in the mid-1970s when he founded Arbusto Energy, Inc. When oil prices dropped in the early 1980s, Arbusto fell upon hard times. Junior was only rescued from business failure when his company was purchased by Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation, a small oil firm owned by William DeWitt and Mercer Reynolds. As part of the September 1984 deal, Bush became Spectrum 7's president and was given a 13.6 percent share in the company's stock. Oil prices stayed low and within two years, Spectrum 7 was in trouble.

CONTINUED ...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Bush_Family_Preys_Together.html

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:42 AM
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10. Send an e-mail to Hastert, Octafish. I just did.
Notice the game being played? George is all for the extension, but Hastert is the obstacle, he thinks it will be too close to the election. Right. Tell me the little coward who shit his pants and flew harm's way on 9/11, can't even stand up and say he wants to shut it down, he needs someone else to do it for him.

Gross incompetence or complicity, he should be held accountable for letting 3000 people die on 9/11.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:11 AM
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15. Great Thinks Mind Alike!
Spanone proposed the very same idea and here's what spanone posted for the very same BFEE turd's email addy on his nearby thread:

dhastert@mail.house.gov

Oh yeah. I'm going to let him have an earful, Not So Old!

Headlock Hastert also will get a hyperlink or two to help his sweaty self and his hand-picked staff see WTF is really happening regarding Bush and 9-11.
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shooga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:19 AM
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19. down here in the ghetto ...
..... it's called Good cop, Bad cop routine


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:02 AM
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13. Hang on everybody this rollercoaster ride isn't over yet
The Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday approved a two-month extension for the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, but the legislation faced an uphill battle because the leader of the House of Representatives opposes it.

The Senate Intelligence panel on a voice vote approved a bill that would give the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the 9-11 Commission, an additional $1 million and shift its deadline to July 27 to complete its final report about the circumstances surrounding the hijacked plane attacks that killed about 3,000 people.

But the legislation faced opposition from House Speaker Dennis Hastert who does not want an extension beyond the current May 27 deadline because it would delay the recommendations and potentially politicize the findings which would be released in the heart of the presidental campaign, a spokesman for the Illinois Republican said.

"There is absolutely no reason for Speaker Hastert to hold up this extension," Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia, the Democrat on the intelligence panel, said in a statement. "By claiming that the independent, bipartisan commission's report may be used against the president in an election year, Speaker Hastert is prejudging the outcome of the commission's work," Rockefeller said. "It truly begs the question, what does he know and why is he intent on preventing the commission from thoroughly doing its job?

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/politics-security-commission.htm

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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:12 AM
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16. I loved this part of your article
"It truly begs the question, what does he know and why is he intent on preventing the commission from thoroughly doing its job?

Precisely. If Bush did nothing wrong on that day, what are they afraid of?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:14 AM
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18. Great quote and article!
"By claiming that the independent, bipartisan commission's report may be used against the president in an election year, Speaker Hastert is prejudging the outcome of the commission's work," Rockefeller said. "It truly begs the question, what does he know and why is he intent on preventing the commission from thoroughly doing its job?"

Jay's been documenting all sorts of BFEE criminality. He also asks the right questions.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:28 AM
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21. The Intelligence Committee been busy today
Faced with a refusal by the Bush administration to provide certain documents related to prewar intelligence on Iraq, the Senate Intelligence Committee voted in a closed session on Thursday to move toward a possible subpoena, according to senior Congressional officals.

The bipartisan vote on the Republican-led panel sets a three-week deadline for a voluntary handover by the administration, after which the committee would employ unspecified "further action," which could only mean a subpoena, the officials said.

In a brief telephone interview, the top Democrat on the panel said that "there's no other interpretation" of the committee's action if the White House fails to turn over the documents by late March.

"We need these things we want them and if we don't get them we will resort to other means," said the Democrat, Senator John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia, who declined to discuss the committee's deliberations in detail.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/27/politics/27INTE.html

Thanks to kskiska in LBN

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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 05:02 AM
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24. Forget the Subpoena
I think they should take a play from the BFEE playbook and give them 48 hours to give up everything, or the Senate Intelligence Commitee should INVADE!!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:36 PM
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49. Senate plans secret session on Iraq
The last time the Senate met in a closed-door session -- excluding press and visitors, shutting out most staffers and imposing a televion blackout -- was during the impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton in 1999.

The Senate is again gearing up for a rare secret session, this time to scrutinize flaws in America's prewar intelligence about Iraqi weapons. And like last time, political charges and countercharges are swirling about the motivation and agenda for the session.

Daschle is calling for administration officials, including CIA chief George Tenet and Bush's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, to attend the session to answer questions. But Republicans object.
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=04/02/27/9844137
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 11:36 AM
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50. Thanks, seemslikeadream! The "expert" from George Mason chipped in...
The closed-door session will FINALLY go where no puke has wanted to go, especially the crazy monkey governor.

From SLAD's article:

Precedent for secrecy

Susan Tolchin, a professor of public policy at George Mason University, said national security and intelligence are topics that have traditionally prompted the Senate to close its doors.

"Intelligence Committees have never been open," Tolchin said. "In many cases, national security has been used for frivolous reason. But in this case with Iraq, I think our policy of secrecy is sound."

Continued...

BTW: This article reveals how of academia has been co-opted by the BFEE over the past 20 years. George Mason (located in Fairfax, VA) is where Wendy Gramm went to rabbit after screwing us over as head of the ENRON "regulatory" agency...

http://www.apfn.org/enron/gramm.htm
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:26 AM
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20. Quote
"I do not believe the president. I mean, I live in the real world. If the president has nothing to hide, why is he hiding?" - Wm. Bennett, 2/1/1998

http://www.chron.com/cgi-bin/auth/story.mpl/content/chronicle/page1/98/02/02/clinton.html
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:17 AM
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26. An name that is relevant today: JAMES R. BATH
Thanks for reminding us of what these neo-Confederates say. It's indicative of what they do. Here's some info you know, Stephanie, but might be appreciated by those new to the subject:

QUESTIONABLE TIES
Tracking bin Laden's money flow leads back to Midland, Texas


by Wayne Madsen

On September 24, President George W. Bush appeared at a press conference in the White House Rose Garden to announce a crackdown on the financial networks of terrorists and those who support them. “U.S. banks that have assets of these groups or individuals must freeze their accounts,” Bush declared. “And U.S. citizens or businesses are prohibited from doing business with them.”

But the president, who is now enjoying an astounding 92 percent approval rating, hasn’t always practiced what he is now preaching: Bush’s own businesses were once tied to financial figures in Saudi Arabia who currently support bin Laden.

In 1979, Bush’s first business, Arbusto Energy, obtained financing from James Bath, a Houstonian and close family friend. One of many investors, Bath gave Bush $50,000 for a 5 percent stake in Arbusto. At the time, Bath was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, head of the wealthy Saudi Arabian family and a brother (one of 17) to Osama bin Laden. It has long been suspected, but never proven, that the Arbusto money came directly from Salem bin Laden. In a statement issued shortly after the September 11 attacks, the White House vehemently denied the connection, insisting that Bath invested his own money, not Salem bin Laden’s, in Arbusto.

In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented Saudi interests. In fact, Bath has extensive ties, both to the bin Laden family and major players in the scandal-ridden Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI) who have gone on to fund Osama bin Laden. BCCI defrauded depositors of $10 billion in the ’80s in what has been called the “largest bank fraud in world financial history” by former Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau. During the ’80s, BCCI also acted as a main conduit for laundering money intended for clandestine CIA activities, ranging from financial support to the Afghan mujahedin to paying intermediaries in the Iran-Contra affair.

CONTINUED...

http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/25/25/feature3.shtml
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:12 PM
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47. HAH...Great catch, Stephanie.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:31 AM
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22. Kewl...vote against Bush
But will Boris Kerr-off inspire voters?

He has a platform that will smite thy enemies

Sure...the B in ABB is Kerry
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:12 AM
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25. Glad you brought him up. If you want to bust the BFEE, call Kerry.
If you want to bust the Bush Organized Crime Family, you will support John Kerry. He is the only candidate running for President to have actually gone after these gangsters who've terrorized America for 40 long years. For those without the recent history or who weren’t around: GOOGLE Kerry and BCCI, Iran-Contra, Ollie North and/or drugs.

As President, Kerry would tie BCCI, Iraq-gate, contra-cocaine to Bush Crime Family — for starters. Imagine what someone with a mandate from the American voters, backed by the rank and file of the intelligence community and the men and women in the officer and enlisted ranks in the military and the union members of the US would do. Certainly a heck of a lot more than W’s smarmy attempt at covering up 9-11 by naming Henry Kissinger to head the commission.

Back to Kerry: Here’s what the Federation of American Scientists have to say about Senator Kerry and the investigation of BCCI. The CIA and President Poppy Doc Bush did everything possible to stonewall Kerry and buy time to shred away. Sounds familiar with 9-11, where the GOP Congress (backed by their toadies in the Conservative DEM Caucus) has unquestioningly picked up Bush’s bloody laundry.


BCCI, THE CIA AND FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE

Introduction


Excerpt:

On May 14, 1991, Senator Kerry wrote CIA Director Webster to again request the briefing paper on BCCI prepared by the CIA, as well as information on the CIA's own use of the bank. No reply was received in response to this letter from the CIA for over two months, during which BCCI was closed globally following its seizure in the United Kingdom by the Bank of England on July 5, 1991.

In the meantime, cleared staff requested a formal briefing from CIA staff concerning the CIA's knowledge of BCCI's activities. The CIA provided an oral briefing at its offices in June, 1991 at the "secret" level, consisting of very general information concerning BCCI's use by drug traffickers, material which was by then already largely a matter of public record. The briefer provided by the CIA to Congressional staff was unfamiliar with other basic information about BCCI, such as the names of BCCI's shareholders, including former Saudi intelligence chief Kamal Adham, the key figure in BCCI's secret takeover of First American, and the CIA's former principal contact in the Arab Middle East. Further, the briefer also appeared to be ignorant of the principal analytic documents concerning BCCI previously prepared by the CIA and disseminated to Executive Branch agencies, which contained this and other more important information about BCCI.(4)

On July 23, 1991, CIA director Webster replied to Senator Kerry's May 14 request by letter, admitting to the existence of two documents concerning BCCI, which were described as "extremely sensitive" and therefore restricted to being held by the Senate intelligence committee.(5) On reviewing these memoranda, Senator Kerry recognized that the earlier of the two documents, created in early 1986, contained startling information -- that the First American Bank in Washington was secretly owned by BCCI. The distribution list attached to the memorandum indicated that the CIA had communicated this information at the time to the Treasury Department. These was no indication that either Treasury or the CIA had ever advised the Federal Reserve, the primary regulator of First American, of this critical information.

Senator Kerry asked Judge Webster to declassify immediately the fact that the CIA had known as of 1986 that BCCI owned First American, and to begin the process of declassifying the entirety of both memoranda. On July 31, 1991, the CIA advised Senator Kerry that he could reveal the information concerning BCCI's secret ownership of First American, but no other information from the memos. The CIA had not yet acknowledged its own use of BCCI to the Subcommittee, or provided access to any other materials prepared by the CIA concerning BCCI.

…MUCH MORE OUTSTANDING INFORMATION…

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/11intel.htm
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JetJaguar Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:19 AM
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23. National security matters.
PDB reportedly titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US".
August 6, 2001




WHITE HOUSE PRESS RELEASES
Remarks by the President to the Pool
For Immediate Release

Office of the Press Secretary

August 7, 2001

Q What're you doing?

THE PRESIDENT: It's nice to be home, for starters. This is my home, this is where I intend to live after I'm the President. It's good to be back with the people who elected me the Governor of Texas. I'm working a lot of issues, national security matters. I've got some decisions to make -- as you know, working on immigration policy, state visit with the President of Mexico.

But I'm getting a lot done, and it's good to be on my ranch. It's good to be home.
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What were the national security issues?
What decisions did you make?
Did they adversely effect your golf game in any way?
Take the whole hour.

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Em dash

Similar to a extended hyphen (-), a dash is used to show a break in thought or a shift of tone. Most keyboards and software programs lack the em dash therefore it must be created by using a special function key supported by the software program or by entering two hyphens (--).
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"This is my home, this is where I intend to live after I'm the President."

The use of "after" makes no sense, either you are or you are not yet "The President".
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 05:56 PM
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34. Thanks, JetJaguar! Do you still fly commercial?
The solid pewter turd of the BFEE, John Ashcan, stopped flying commercial just after a threat assessment was made right around that time. Oh yeah, that was the summer BEFORE 9-11:


Ashcroft Flying High

WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001

Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

A senior official at the CIA said he was unaware of specific threats against any Cabinet member, and Ashcroft himself, in a speech in California, seemed unsure of the nature of the threat.

CONTINUED...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml


PS: A hearty welcome to DU, JetJaguar! Thanks for the heads-up on the em-dash. Most of the time I get my trusty Apple to churn one out, it comes out as a percentage sign or and en-dash or something. Ha ha ha ha. For some more laughs, I like to check out the singer-songwriter-terrorist-enabler AG singing "Let the Eagle Soar." What a sick, sick man...

http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2002/02/25/ashcroft.sings.wbtv.med.html
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:35 PM
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28. Didn't he say that
as president he didn't feel that he needed to explain himself to anyone? Maybe other people need to explain what they say to him, but not the other way around.

May I humbly submit that the reason people need to explain what they say to him is not because he's the president of the United States...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:38 PM
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29. hey, Stalin, Hitler and Marcos would have had the commissioner imprisoned
or killed.

So Bush is STILL the best of the Totalitarian Tyrants.

hooray...
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:40 PM
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30. He's working on it.
In America, that sort of thing would still raise an eyebrow, even now. Give him a few more years yet. He did say it would be far easier if he was the dictator.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 05:59 PM
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36. Found this picture on an Air China flight ...
... it was stuffed inside the in-flight magazine, "China Business Toady."



What is it with today's commie? Don't they read Solzhenitsyn?
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 05:55 PM
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33. Cognitive Dissonance Alert
Yet another in a long line . . .

The wingnut gospel holds that 9/11 was Clinton's fault. I'm not putting words in their mouths. They've said that, over and over. His lapses, his failure to use operatives who could find the truth, etc. etc.

So, then, WHY are they trying to shut down this investigation? Shouldn't they be screeching for full, open, under-oath questioning from everybody who had anything to do with this? Don't they want to get at the truth, which they're so sure will exonerate AWOL and point towards Clinton? Come on guys, get to it! Don't let those damn libruls keep you from getting to the bottom of this!

Will anybody call them on this next time they open their pie-holes and blame this on Clinton?

Or maybe we should write letters to Hastert et al. complaining that the efforts to shut down the investigation are clearly a tactic by the Democrats to protect Bill Clinton.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:01 PM
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46. Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy Berger said....
... Anti-terrorism was the number one priority of the Clinton Administration. He personally briefed Condescenda and told her to be on the lookout for Osama, the turd behind the bombings of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, as well as the attack on the USS Cole.

Berger's word is backed up by three top anti-terror experts (all had been Generals in the armed forces) who were retained when Gov Bush and his people took over the White House, but resigned when they saw that they were putting anti-terrorism on the back burner.

Remember the Chicago FBI agents who blew the whistle on their shut-down investigation into terror money-laundering? These guys said they were ordered to stand down.

Remember the Minneapolis FBI agents who blew the whistle on Moussaoui, the "20th Hijacker" who wasn't interested in learning how to take off or land, only in using the in-flight navigation? Nobody at Washington HQ paid them any heed.

Before then, the flight instructors were so desperate to get someone to pay attention to their "student," they had to call their Congressman.

ALL that happened on BUSH's watch.

It gets worse. Those interested in learning more can visit:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/17/1530204

One-time GOP Bigwig Kevin Phillips puts out the truth regarding the BFEE.
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 05:58 PM
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35. Has any sitting president ever?
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 06:03 PM by djg21
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I cannot think of any sitting President -- including Nixon during Watergate -- ever before offering testimony, public or otherwise,relating to events that transpired during his the term of his presidency.

Note that Clinton testified at deposition in a civil lawsuit pertaining to events that occurred before he was elected.

Consequently, the fact that Shrub will not testify is really not that surprising. What's more upsetting is Hastert's determination not to extend the period of the investigation. Without a doubt, if Shrub had wanted the investigation extended, it would have been.

On edit: I just heard that Hastert extended commission. Strike that part!
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:06 PM
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38. We have GOT to get this menace to the world out of office
soon! I'm running out of indignation.
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:26 PM
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42. Well said!!!
Trouble is you have far too much knowledge and appear to have taken the time to educate youself - how many freepers do you know who have done that or are going to vote Bush merely to keep dems out of power? That my friend is what we are fighting - IGNORANCE!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 03:39 PM
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45. Here's how we do it, historian! Tell the truth ...
...the BFEE will go down faster than the Hindenburgh. To convert the FREEPERS:

• George W Bush lied about 9-11, his family was friends with the bin Ladens and let them fly home scott free.

• George W Bush lied about Vietnam service, when he went AWOL, at best, because he refused to take a drug test.

• James R Bath is the one name that ties both together.

In the Texas Air National Guard, Bath got grounded same time as Bush Jr for the same reason.

Later, Bath went on to become big in Houston business, working the S&Ls and BCCI on behalf of the Bushes, the bin Ladens and a whole bunch more of the Big Oil sheikhs.

Any Freeper worth his 1040-EZ should GOOGLE James R Bath + bin Laden + Bush. Their eyes will bug out of their head.

Freepers with a numbered Swiss bank account? They're making plans for their escapes to the jungle redoubts made by Rev Moon in Brazil and Paraguay.




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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:07 PM
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48. Proof of Trillions in Bu$h Family Business With Saddam 1989-1991
In a document obtained by the respected London-based International Currency Review, it was claimed that after a year long investigation, it had uncovered evidence "of the mobilisation of trillions of dollars in 1989-91". The document names a number of banks it alleges were "supervised by the Bush Sr. White House" in the transactions.

Thge banks identified in the document include the British Royal Family bankers, Coutts: Morgan Guaranty Trust and Chase Manhattan, New York; Banco Exterior de Espana, Spain; First International Bank of Denver in the United STates.

"What will cause astonishment is the provenance of some of these compromising documents. For many months we considered carefully whether it could be credible that an intelligence organisation or a private gang of blackmailers and counterfeiters could replicate the precise behavior of an obsolescent IBM computer to produce output identical to those images shown with this analysis. We checked these possibilities repeatedly with experts and also consulted banking sources to see whether these documents could possibly be fraudulent. The outcome of these investigations was unequivocally that the documentation is genuine."

Story claimed that the documents were leaked by the Iraqis to "discredit President Bush Sr." as Saddam began to realise that George Bush was preparing for war against Iraq.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/268817.shtml




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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 11:57 AM
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51. BFEE SOP: Dead Men Tell No Tales
Wow! Great article, seemslikeadream!

Business links – involving “the mobilisation of trillions of dollars” – by President Bush’s father and his brother Neil, were under investigation by America’s top spy catcher, Paul Redmond, when he resigned.

Skolnick had reported stuff on this, but his hatred of everybody kept me from putting more "stock" in the story. So, now it seems clear why Poppy and Smirk were so eager to get their wars on. They make money the old fashioned way ... by killing people.

The missing trillions from the Pentagon? In Switzerland.

The missing hundreds of billions from the nation's Savings & Loans? In Switzerland.

The missing billions from ENRON? In Switzerland.

The missing billions from Global Crossing (Hi, Terry McC!)? In Switzerland.

The missing billions from Tyco? In Switzerland.

The missing trillions and trillions to come, thanks to Bush mismanaging the economy and helping enrich his friends... penuring America in the process. Going to the Caymans before moving to Switzerland.

Some conservative! Some monster!

For those new to the subject: Bush is a CROOK! Here's a bit of Smirko's past that's relevant today:

Bush & Bin Laden - George W. Bush Had Ties to Billionaire bin Laden Brood

The unexplained death of Salem, Osama bin Laden's oldest brother, in 1988, brought to an abrupt end a long and intriguing relationship between President Bush and the head of the bin Laden family fortune.
 
By Roger Miller

EXCERPT...

As the hard times continued, Spectrum merged with Harken Energy in 1986. In 1990, Harken received a contract from the government of Bahrain to drill for offshore oil although Harken Energy had never drilled a well overseas or anywhere in water.

"Knowledgeable oil company sources believe that the Bahrain oil concession was indeed an oblique favor to the president of the United States but say that Saudi Arabia (home of bin Laden) was behind the decision," according to The Outlaw Bank: A Wild Ride Into the Secret Heart of the BCCI, by Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gwynne.

It raised oil-industry eyebrows when the Persian Gulf state announced it had chosen tiny Harken to explore an offshore site for gas and oil. Bahrain officials said they had no idea President Bush's son was associated with Harken, a claim oil-industry sources ridicule. The Bahrain deal was brokered in part by Arkansas investment banker David Edwards, one of Bill Clinton's closest friends. The Bahrain oil project resulted in two dry holes and Harken energy abandoned the project.

Two months before Iraq invaded Kuwait, on June 20, 1990, the younger Bush sold two-thirds of his Harken stock, 212,140 shares at $4 a share-for a total of $848,560. "That was $318,430 more than it was worth," Dr. Arthur F. Ide, author of George W. Bush: Portrait of a Compassionate Conservative, said. "George W. broke the law to do this since the transaction was an insider stock sale."

CONTINUED...

http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_07_01/Bush___Bin_Laden_-_George_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b.html

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