Remember Welfare Queens?

[historian]

Its always some republican nazi who stirs hatred in order to impose his fascist views on the ignorants in this country.
Nixon's tapes revealed his talking to Billy Graham (mr sanctimoniouos) about having to get rid of the jews.
Reagen ignited the myth of welfare recipients pulling up in cadillacs to claim their checks (corporate welfare? Sorry hard of hearing)
Bush Sr. went on and one about Wille Horton instead of denoucning the real criminals (himself included).
The current shit head in the white house is stirring up all he can wherever he can in order to hid his utter uselessness in life.
As my young daughter would say "He is a waste of space."

[NightTrain]

1. I can remember Reagan claiming...

...that there was a documented story about a Chicago woman who used her food stamps to buy vodka. Seems she would go into the grocery store, buy an orange (or something equally cheap), and use her change to purchase the booze.

But, as the manager of a local welfare offices pointed out, the maximum change allowed from a food-stamp purchase was 99 cents--hardly enough to purchase a bottle of vodka!

[dsc]

2. Hey when Reagan was a kid

99 cents bought alot. In fairness, back in 1980 I would imagine 99 cents could get a small bottle. I only paid around 2 bucks back in my drinking days for small bottles.

[NightTrain]

3. Maybe so, but...

...nobody was ever able to verify his claim. And that was the case with almost every parable Reagan came up with to back up whatever point he was trying to make. Here are but a few examples:

"I just heard that some poll or something has revealed that (First Lady Nancy Reagan) is the most popular woman in the world." No such poll existed.

"I'm told that the Russian language has no word for freedom." The Russian word for "freedom" is "svoboda."

"There are as many trees in the United States now as when George Washington was at Valley Forge." Excuse me?

[dsc]

4. Don't get me wrong Reagan was full of it

but on that, very limited point, he likely wasn't totally full of it.

[Mel]

5. Reagan the liar

here's another one of his welfare queen lies
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfarequeen.htm

Fact: Reagan made up this story.

Summary
Reagan's story of a Welfare Queen driving a Welfare Cadillac was apocryphal. Even so, there is no evidence that welfare cheating is a significant problem; besides, individual welfare payments are too small for recipients to live well.

Argument
Conservative politicians have a talent for telling memorable anecdotes that capture the essence of their beliefs on any particular issue. One of the most enduring of these came from Ronald Reagan on the subject of welfare. He cited a Chicago "Welfare Queen" who had ripped off $150,000 from the government, using 80 aliases, 30 addresses, a dozen social security cards, and four fictional dead husbands. The country was outraged; Reagan dutifully promised to roll back welfare; and ever since, the "Welfare Queen" driving her "Welfare Cadillac" has become permanently lodged in American political folklore.

Unfortunately, like most great conservative anecdotes, it wasn't really true. The media searched for this welfare cheat in the hopes of interviewing her, and discovered that she didn't even exist. </snip>

[SoCalDem]

6. We need photoshoppers to dress up the corporate moguls

as welfare queens next to cadillacs..

caption.... The real welfare queens :)

[SoCalDem]

7. As a former checker, I can tell you that there are ways

but most people did not do it..

A common ploy was to use a $1.00 foodstamp for gum..and repeat with several checkers.. After a while they would have enoough change.. another way was to buy a piece of meat and then bring it back saying there was something wrong with it.. Managers would give a refund slip..

the biggest scam they used to pull was with wic vouchers and the case of formula.. When I was working, it cost $36.53 ..they had vouchers for 2 per month.. They would buy it and then return it , saying that the doctor had changed the formula for the baby.. Managers would again just issue a refund slip..

If there is a way around somehting, determined people will find it.. but the majority of the people who use food stamps and wic vouchers are decent people who are down on their luck :(

The real cheaters are the agri-business folks who get millions in subsidies and the corporate whores who steal from their workers and shareholders

[MrPrax]

8. Nixon

I remember Woodward's book that Nixon demanded Kissenger pray with him...

And Raygun using the 'Queen' epithet liberally...about the same time LaRouche-ites started with the Queen was a drug dealer?

Can fundie voters be convinced that America is on a highway to hell while having an ephipany over popcorn in a multiplex?

I see a signature drive with fundies going out to the multiplexes to collect sigs on voter cards as well as Constitutional admendments?

Jesus died so you can see 'Van Helsing'!!! oh yeah and Bush

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