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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:30 PM
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Newt Gingrich called Kerry "Hanoi John"
Is that Slander? Can he be sued or in some manner held accountable. It is the most disgusting form of namecalling I can think of. Typical GOP stuff but I still find myself appalled by their extremes. This is every bit as bad as McCarthyism. IMHO
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:33 PM
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1. Typical GOP stuff is right
I laugh at it though...the Repubs are desperate.

Doctoring a photo of Kerry attending an event with Jane Fonda BEFORE she went to Hanoi?

HAHAHAHAHA...what weenies.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:35 PM
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2. Where was Newt during the 60's? Did he serve his country?
If he didnt then he should shut the fuck up and not demean "Actual war heroes", such as Kerry, Cleland and Kerrey.
Kerry served his country honorably, spilling his blood and saving lives. You cant take that away from him because he stood up against an opressive govt. (nixon era),after seeing the hypocracy and the senseless loss of life that was thw Viet Nam war.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:42 PM
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8. Of course he didn't
Hopefully Americans are beginning to see through their bullshit. Gingrich is nothing but a dried up turd. He's a coward of the worst kind.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:13 PM
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19. But, that is *different*, you know.
Gignrich is a repuke. Thus, his patriotism is above question. Beside, THEY have 'character'... :eyes:
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:45 PM
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11. I think Gingrich received student and/or family deferments.
As did Dick Cheney and Phil Gramm, if I recall correctly.

Don't you know the more insufferable breed of 'cans (Read: G.W. Bush, Saxby Chambliss, et al) have NO compunction whatsoever about attacking Vietnam veterans, even those who were POWs, even those who were tortured, even those who were severely wounded? Don't you know that these same 'cans simply adore prancing around celebrating their toughness and masculinity (So agressive! So decisive!) and are not troubled by a lack of military service in their background?

And don't know you know they wouldn't hestitate to use a lack of military service against a Democrat?

BTW, Gingrich's stepfather was career military. I wish he were around to kick Gingrich's sorry backside.
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:25 PM
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29. The cowardly chickenhawks
have an undying love for their country,they want die for it but they want you do die for them and country,cowardly bastards.
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captain_change Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 06:16 PM
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26. Quickly married & had children
If I remember correctly, Newt, the adoptive son of a career army officer quickly married his high school teacher when it looked like he would have to change from teaching military history to being part of it. This is the poor women that bore him 2 daughters (is one gay or is that his sister?) and Newty served divorce papers to marry wife #2 while wife #1 was in the hospital recovering from a hysterectomy. BTW Wife #2 was cheated at night by Newty as he was railing against Clinton immorality on capital hill during the day!!
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 08:21 PM
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28. I believe wife #1 was in the hospital with cancer
where Newt dumped her (Jackie) for wife #2 (Marianne). Then Gingrich asked wife #2 (Marianne) for a divorce by telephoning her on Mother's Day, 1999 so he could marry wife #3 (Callista - his congressional aide). Lovely.

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:36 PM
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3. This cartoon sums it up, I think.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:51 PM
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13. HAHAH...that's a great cartoon. I'd LOVE to see Newt debate with Kerry
on ANYTHING, including what they both did three decades ago.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:36 PM
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4. Jee-ho-sa-phat
Let him put his service record against Kerry's. Oh, wait...he doesn't have one.

Filthy sack of dung!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:36 PM
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5. That Ratf*ck Gingrich
What I wouldn't give to see Kerry lay that gutless turd out over that slanderous piece of crap!

I know it's never gonna happen, and it's probably wrong to wish for, but goddamned do these treasonous shitpiles like Gingrich need it!

Evil must be opposed, aggressively, even forecfully if necessary.

Hitler, Stalin, Marcos and Bush all teach us that...

(the only question remaining is "How far will the Imperial Family be allowed to go?" and the answer is so wide open as to be genuinely terrifying)
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:36 PM
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6. So that makes him what? "Chicken$hit Newt"!?!
:kick:
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:40 PM
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7. "avoided the draft" "attended graduate school"
born in 1943, Mr. Gingrich was prime cannon fodder for the USA but, chose not to go---I guess he was busy with wife #1.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:43 PM
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9. Maybe "Moonie Newt"
If we want to resort to namecalling ourselves.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:44 PM
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10. Coming from a serial adulterer, them's big words.
Does Newt know there is an actual commandment, one of the big Ten, banning adultery? I don't recall any that ban gay marriage.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:50 PM
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12. Kerry went instead of Newt, while Newt was was watching the t.v. footage
from the comfort of his sofa, eating ding dongs and ho-hos and showing his "support" for the war.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:53 PM
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14. What a prick, I tuned him out YEARS ago.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:03 PM
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15. Chickenhawk calls War Hero traitor!
This is going to really work for us in November. I hope the Chickenhawks like Gingrich keep it up. That will give Kerry every opportunity to showcase his war record, his medals, his bravery, and his patriotism. The Repugs are going to get a severe ass-kicking in the fall.
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:04 PM
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16. I have a golf ball autographed by Newt Gingrich. I won it from my
repuke brother in law. I really treasure it. By the way, isn't a newt something slimey that crawls out from under a rock?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:06 PM
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17. It's Time The Old Anti-War People Stood Up!
I'm tired of the crap these Chickenshithawks blather, consider the ultimate hypocrisy in supporting a war yet avoiding serving in it. Now they're attempting to rewrite history as Vietnam being some noble war (at least from the military side) and those who opposed it as being just unpatriotic slime.

Where are those, and there were millions of us, who rose up during those years to make the Johnson and then Nixon administrations accountable about that war and to expose the terrible situation we had gotten ourselves into. We protested to get out the truth as to not only why we were there (that came out in the Pentagon Papers), what we were doing there and how we can avoid this type of mess again. Those who spoke up against the war did so at peril (especially during the Nixon Enemies list days) and still live with those days as a scar on their lives just as any combat veteran did.

I admire Kerry standing up at the time to denounce what, by 1971, had become a stalemate with no end in sight (the Paris Peace talks were a joke) and our military being hung out to dry by its own government! Many veterans I know who served in Nam blame the government for their plight, not the protesters. In fact, many have said if it wasn't for us, the war would have continued at an excelerated rate for years to come...no Vietnamization that cut down our casualties and the protest surrounding the Cambodian invasion put an end to any thoughts of expanding the war. In the wake, we avoided foreign adventures and, in retrospect, the lesson of Vietnam was that we got stuck in a civil war where all sides hated us and to use our power wisely. Looks that message is totally lost on Gingrich and the others who now have blood on their hands.

Personally, I know history is on our side on this and those who are responsible for this current military incursion will be singled out and villified for their roles in this fiasco. Unlike Vietnam, Iraq can't be blamed on some organized international conspiracy (like Communism...Domino Theory...and then see how that was a farce, too) and now the reasons that rushed us into sending 100,000 plus of our young men and women into a trap shoot are being questioned.

I just wish those who spoke up...and we didn't have the internet or television...it was free press, underground radio and word of mouth that kept us informed in those days. We need to remind people who were around in those days what is really going on and whose responsible.

Of course Gingrich and his ilk are gonna try to frame Kerry as a traitor. This is kinda jury nulification to off-set the embarassment of bunnypant's military non-record and to try to throw that issue (which goes to the core of being Commander In Chief) into distortion and misinformation.

The only way we rise above is to shout the truth. When they yell back, we shout the truth louder.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:08 PM
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18. Anyone have a link
I googled it .. dont see it.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:14 PM
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20. Was this on FOX?? nt
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:17 PM
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21. Everytime they bring up "Hanoi John" we need to bring up...
...Baghdad Don



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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:23 PM
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22. newt is null and void. "hanoi john" is a last ditch desperation.
it doesn't matter what he says. we should be talking about the economy. they do everything they can to distract us from concentrating on what really counts in the election: economy and healthcare.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:55 PM
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23. Link?

Where and when did he say this? He needs to be "tarred and feathered" and run out of town for this one.

We ought to email him and tell him what we think about this shit!

Here is the contact link:

http://newt.org/index.php?submenu=contactus&src=forms&id=Contact%20Us

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 06:04 PM
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24. What does that make Rumsfeld? Baghdad Don?
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YNGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 06:08 PM
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25. Yeah, he can be sued.
You can sue someone for holding their mouth the wrong way. Don't mean you'll win, but you can sue.

Good Luck. I wish I could help but I've got to wash my hair or do my taxes or something. Let me know how it goes.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 07:29 PM
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27. Here's something I posted last week
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 07:34 PM by rocknation
THE ROCKNATION(TM) HANDY DANDY INSTANT BUSH REFUTER
If Bush says: Viet Nam war protestor
You say: "AAAAAAAWOLLLLLLLL!"

If Bush says: Tried to exploit intern
You say: Tried to exploit Jessica Lynch

If Bush says: Special interest groups
You say: Halliburton

If Bush says: Wants gay marriage
You say: Wants the draft

If Bush says: Hurt middle class by raising taxes
You say: Hurt middle class by raising unemployment

If Bush says: Mrs. Kerry's Walmart stock
You say: Mrs. Bush's driving record
_______________________________

Contributed by NRK:
If Bush says: Massachusetts liberal
You say: Connecticut cowboy

If Bush says: effete latte-drinker
You say: scared of horses

If Bush says: Jane Fonda
You say: Ashcroft, Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz, Rice, Rove, Armitage, Rumsfeld, Pryor, Pickering

If Bush says: Voted for IWR
You say: Fool me once, shame on...shame on...you?

If Bush says: flip-flopper
You say: divider

If Bush says: Doesn't support the troops
You say: I was one, you moron


We need to make a complete list

:headbang:
rocknation
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