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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 08:28 AM
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Get Ready For The "CAPTURE" of Osama - my analysis & wild speculation
Gang,

Have you watched TV lately?

Browsed the internet?

Read the paper?

I hope you have. And I hope you've been keeping up with various other postings on this subject at DU. Because if so, you've been honing your investigative skills and your BS detector. Over the past year of so, you've become more cognizant and capable of NOTICING and SENSING when you're being "sold" something in the media. Not a product, mind you, but rather a STORY, or UPCOMING event. Or even a PRESIDENT. George Bush is without a doubt, the most MANUFACTURED and OVERSOLD President in American history.

But I digress..

You've probably already started to recognize a "pattern" developing. There's the "propaganda preparation" for the CAPTURE OF OSAMA. Little hints in the media, little hints dropped by Bush, bigger hints on television, as Bush and the military prepare to "capture" Bin Laden. I noticed it most grossly and egregiously in the buildup for the Iraqi Invasion. I mean, sure, you had MARCH TO WAR, MARCH TO WAR, MARCH TO WAR completely OVERSELLING you ever day on CNN, FOX NEWS, and the broadcast news shows. But the Media/Defense Contractors that own Networks/Bush Cartel were using other, more subtle means to "sell" the war to us, to "acclimatize" one to ACCEPTANCE and INEVITABILITY of war.

Commercials for joining the Army were rampant. Even the content airing on PBS, supposedly "public" and non-partisan (but in reality, the initials stand for Petroleum Broadcasting Service) was taking on a militaristic tone. The subjects or titles of shows like NOVA or FRONTLINE were stuff like, "Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction," or "The Evil Saddam," or "The Gulf War," stuff like that. The History Channel and Discovery Channel were airing shows about American Military, Hi-Tech Weapons, The "New 21st Century Soldier," or "Saddam's Deadly Weapons." AMC and Turner Classic Movies were showing more and more WWII movies, or movies about heroism in combat.

Trust me, this is deliberate. This is the extant to which our Media and Entertainment industries are being co-opted (if not downright OWNED) by the military/industrial/petroleum complex. The CIA has a LOT to do with this. I know many of you STILL won't believe it, but the ENTIRE American corporate news media is nearly COMPLETELY run, infiltrated, or beholden to the Central Intelligence Agency.

I can't go into this particular subject right now; I hope most of you DON'T need convincing or further clarification, but....Most high-visibility reporters and journalists are CIA assets. Or, they play along. Even Walter Cronkite has admitted to reading stuff on TV that he KNEW was FALSE, but the CIA wanted him to do it. CBS and Dan Rather are a "Company favorite," pretty much under the sway of the CIA. Notice who's been getting the big scoops this past year on any intelligence or Bush "bombshells?" CBS.

FOR YOUR FURTHER RESEARCH: GOOGLE "Operation Mockingbird" or "The Mighty Wurlitzer" or Carl Bernstein's famous Rolling Stone article on the CIA's complete infiltration of and takeover of the American Media. He estimated at least 400 prominent American journalists over that past 25 years were CIA assets. One CIA Director, William Colby, bragged that "The CIA owns anyone of major importance in the American media."

But, to my point:

I've noticed a shift in the winds, here, with regard to Osama. Not getting Osama has been a major Bush embarrassment. The media has been complicit in letting Bush off the hook. Imagine if Al Gore were President? Or Clinton? Each day, FOX NEWS or CNN would have their countdown, "Well, it's been 894 days since President Gore said he'd capture bin Laden, dead or alive." "Where's OSAMA?" "Where's OSAMA?" "Osama is Gore's FAILURE."

Remember, about a year after 911, Bush stopped mentioning bin Laden in his speeches or interviews. OH, there was still plenty of "War," "terror," "fear," "War," "Al Qaeda," "War without end," "evil-doers," "terror cells," "9-11," sprinkled into every speech. I think it was estimated that Bush, in his mendacious and disastrous, scripted and staged, Meet The Press "interview" that he mentioned all these key words no less than 70 times. BUT NO "OSAMA."

Thusly, the Media has done its part and not mentioned him by name.

Until now.

Just the other night, on Frontline, there was a two-hour special on Terrorism, Counter-terrorism, Al Qaeda, and OSAMA. The Discovery Channel has started airing a special program, THE HUNT FOR OSAMA.

Just GOOGLE the NEWS lately on the internet. Look at all the NEW stories claiming that we're "Closing in on Osama." "Osama is surrounded." "Osama captured any day now." "Osama warning BUSH of more attacks."

NOTICE too, how the media spins yet another PHONY "Osama tape." They're selling us this War on Terror HOAX as some sort of grudge match between Osama and Bush. One CNN headline read, "Osama Sends Chilling Message to BUSH." Oh, really? And how? By Federal Express? By courier pigeon from his cave in Tora Bora? CNN "personalized" this fight. Osama's taped message warned America. But the headline reads: "Osama Sends Chilling Message to BUSH." Ooooooooh!

CHECK OUT these Google results: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=closing+in+on+bin+laden&sa=N&tab=wn

WHY NOW? Well, politically, things are as low as they've ever been for Bush. The American people are starting to wake up and rub the fog from their eyes and see how DISASTROUS this President has been for this country. Most of that is due, yet again, TO THE MEDIA.

Once John Kerry was successfully sold to us by the US MEDIA, acting at the behest of the "moneyed power elite," the elements of "shadow government," just as Howard Dean was SOLD OUT, trashed, vilified and demonized by the US MEDIA, once again acting at the behest of the "moneyed power elite," the elements of "shadow government," DID ANY OF YOU NOTICE that once that objective was successfully ACHIEVED, the assurance that Kerry would be the "other choice" for Americans, the US media started going after George Bush?

Another coinky-dink? Just as fellow Skull & Bonesman, Bilderberg Member, Council on Foreign Relations Member, Trilateral Commission Member John Kerry becomes "the frontrunner," the American Media starts to lay into Bush.

And now we have all this Osama stuff in the news and on entertainment programs. Of course Bush needs Osama to win in November. Sure, he also needs to rig the voting machines and probably stage another phony terror attack in America in order to declare Martial Law and suspend the election, but Bush's plans need to include Osama.

Look at it this way. You have to know the whole premise of "we can't find him" is bullsh*t. We have spy satellites that can read a license plate off the back of a car from outer space. If "we" wanted to capture bin Laden or kill him shortly after 911, we have already done so.

That's the most virulent scuttlebutt and wild speculation going on amongst Captain Mike's online sources and websites that I frequent, like DU. Bush probably already has Osama either captured and being held somewhere in order to be released when it's most politically convenient... or he's got him on ice somewhere, and will thaw out the corpse to parade in front of the TV cameras just before the election. Or build a wax dummy of him.

Or get some actor to pose as Osama; I don't think Jeff Goldblum is doing much these days.

Rumour has it, Osama died of kidney disease just after the 9-11 Attacks. Many people think one of these scenarios is likely. Even William Safire of the New York Times predicted that Osama will be "the October Surprise." Safire also predicted as a possibility, ANOTHER MAJOR TERROR ATTACK.

Even Madeline Albright mused aloud that Bush probably has bin Laden captured. http://www.talonnews.com/news/2003/december/1218_albright_bin_laden.shtml

This would also follow the procedure they likely used in the phony "capture" of Saddam. It looks as though Saddam was captured last SUMMER, shortly after the Iraqi invasion, NOT later, just before Christmas, and was being held prisoner in order to be released at a politically advantageous time.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ATW312A.html

So, what's gonna happen? I honestly don't know, or what will, when. But it seems likely that Bush will cough up bin Laden. He may do it soon if the various scandals swirling around him like the Valerie Plame Affair, or any of Dick Cheney's numerous TREASONOUS actions explode in their faces. But they may wait til just before the Election. I think they're gonna see how badly Kerry is leading them, and then they will likely come up with a terror attack, declare Martial Law, and suspend all elections.

But what is most certainly going on right now is the "propaganda preparation" for the "capture" or "killing" of Osama bin Laden.

For further research into this, and for greater understanding of how Americans were "prepared" to accept this Osama bin Laden fellow as the perpetrator of 9-11, please read this FASCINATING, FASCINATING article on how "Osama the evil-doer" was completely built up in our minds by the media in the years prior to 9-11. It's all part of the brainwashing we endure, but have no clue that it's being done to us.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00152.htm

Over and out,
Captain Mike
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 08:37 AM
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1. Everyone I know is
already pretty suspicious about this. They want to know the sudden interest in bin-forgotten after all these years. These guys are SO predictable, I don't see a huge or lasting bump for our regime if he is "captured". However, I DO expect retalitory strikes against us and possible scary events in Pakistan. Of course, this may be EXACTLY what our junta desires, the ultimate diversion, another devastating "attack" against our Country.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:18 AM
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7. I agree...they will once again peak too soon.
They will probably bring him out soon, if it follows the pattern of the pre-Saddam drumbeat. It is near frenzy time...soon the reports will be that they are 24 hours behind OBL. Then presto..got him (dead of alive).

But NOW? Yes, it will be a good thing to have that mad man caught, but tell me, who even mentions Saddam now? After one week of his capture, who cares? The election is too far away for a capture to give him a bump.

The diversion will be worse than this unfortunately.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:35 AM
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13. I think it's important that we spread that suspicion. FAR AND WIDE.
There would indeed probably be a bump for them. They'd time it VERY strategically. We already know they'll stop at nothing. It's probably being planned right NOW.

We have to talk about this and do a Johnnie Cochran on it - plant the seeds of doubt. That way, when it happens (and I'm kinda convinced that it will), the the benefit will be blunted to some extent. Won't be blunted all the way. There are plenty of people who can and will be swayed by this. There are plenty of people who, frankly, are desperate to be swayed by this, because I'm convinced that they'd really like to vote for bush except for all the lies and the crap they see that's starting to turn their heads. But these folks are only temporary converts, I'm afraid. Osama's capture would be just what they'd want - to restore their faith.

I am VERY uneasy about this. I'm suspicious. WE JUST ABSOLUTELY MUST BE VIGILANT. Pre-emptive containment here. The more aggressively we spread the word, the better. The more we let the powers that be know we're on to them, the better. The harder we persist on this, the surer OUR victory.

Note the info in my sig line. You know what to do.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:36 PM
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18. Predictable as Josef Stalin
Guess why that is?
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 08:49 AM
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2. it's called...
THE OCTOBER SURPRISE!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:05 AM
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3. Welcome, Paradise, that's my theory too
9/11 we either have an anniversary attack (or the miraculous prevention of onw) and the deliverence of Osama.

Am still surprised that no anthrax or ricin has been delivered to certain Judges of the Scotus as of yet.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:56 AM
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11. thanks for the welcome...
i can't even come up with a theory on the anthrax and ricin actions, and that's not at all like me. must be suppositions out there, however i'm not aware of what they are.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:09 AM
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4. I was with you every word of the way until you said this:
"Once John Kerry was successfully sold to us by the US MEDIA, acting at the behest of the "moneyed power elite," the elements of "shadow government," just as Howard Dean was SOLD OUT, trashed, vilified and demonized by the US MEDIA, once again acting at the behest of the "moneyed power elite," the elements of "shadow government," DID ANY OF YOU NOTICE that once that objective was successfully ACHIEVED, the assurance that Kerry would be the "other choice" for Americans, the US media started going after George Bush?"

Lost all credibility there and I quit reading.

you have a good point especially about the CIA and the media. Then you lost me.
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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:31 PM
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17. lost all credibility?
Whatever.

Have you even bothered to research any of this, then?

Admittedly, a year ago i would have felt the same way. Then I looked into it. Then I REALLY looked into it.

There was some speculation in that paragraph, "Did you notice that....?"

But the money elite and shadow government DO pull the strings, unfortunately. The same puppet masters that control Bush, are making sure Kerry gets the nomination, and perhaps is elected.

Why don't you research if before I lose even more credibility with you?

D' Cap'n
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:42 PM
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22. well, why would the media go after Bush and THEN trump up this OBL thing?
I had a problem with that too.

They're for Bush, then they're against Bush, now they're for Bush again.

Doesn't make sense.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:10 AM
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5. The back of the cave will have...
some pretty new shadows to watch soon.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:17 AM
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6. bin laden has been dead since december 2001. Can't survive kidney
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 09:18 AM by radwriter0555
disease living in a cave...

There were several articles about his funeral, dated around December 25, 2001... in middle eastern papers.

Bin laden had been treated in the American Hospital in Dubai in June 2001 for his kidney disease, and after that was unable to get the treatment he needed. This meeting was greatly written about, including by Le Figaro... as it was discussed that OBL met with CIA agents.

BTW, to further baffle you, take a look at the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist web page as it pertains to OBL.

There is no mention whatseover of him being wanted in connection with 9.11.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:16 AM
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12. Even If He's Not. . .
. . .does anyone really think he'll allow himself to be taken alive. The ultimate ignominy would be to undergo trial and judgment at the hands of the hated U.S., wouldn't it?

I would think his thought process would be "better a dead martyr than a live prisoner in the U.S." Maybe not, but i sure don't see him allowing himself to be captured alive.
The Professor
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:39 AM
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14. So you think they'll thaw the Osama-sickle(c) at a convenient time...
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 10:40 AM by Junkdrawer
in the campaign - perhaps just before the September NYC Repub Convention? :shrug:
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 01:03 PM
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15. of course not. US interests have no idea where his body was
interred...

it's all just a distraction, puffing, blowing, and irrelevent.

Remember? Bush lied about his reasons for invading iraq.

That's the reason all the stuff and nonsense about obl is being resurrected.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:21 AM
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8. Another disaster in Bush PR
Instinct tells me that the reports of WH dismay and rage at the time Osama disappeared were genuine. Either Franks blew Osama and assorted cohorts(also missing despite questionable voice messages over the years) into dust or Nuclear, Islamist Pakistan is the perfect hiding place. If he simply lets himself be taken like Hussein I would find very hard to believe, even with gas. However, the story that he is dead, the most repressed and untalked about alternative is only competing with dubious tapes verified by scanty and suspicious sources and foreign pols scoring some points or other.

Yet there could be an "son of Spartacus" out there with a Mel Blanc substitute voice-over whose Bin Laden DNA would suffice if we scraped him out of the collapsed cave. THAT is the fake "probability" all this loony slant toward the "Osama lives" has been offering on a tempting plate to George W. In happier times this palpable slurry would have been instant win win for W but now everything has been tending to tank quickly into the lose lose column.

The activity back in the original war on Afghanistan lends more detailed credence to the fact that Osama is dead but that overkill obliterated any possible evidence. Instead of putting out a story no one knew was true and not too many would believe they have been playing the "Osama lives" legend for whatever it is worth. A lot of officials who have not read the newspapers pass themselves off as expert believers, probably unaware of the attack. In between was the revealing "Osama wounded" legend which was a lame bridge between the two and very revealing of the fakery in trying to prove he was alive.
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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:21 AM
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9. I always figured Osama was more useful to promoting the "war on terror"
if he was still "at large."

That is one reason I have always thought that the higher ups might hide his earlier death or capture.

But I also think it far from "certain" that he is captured. Lots of people over-estimate spy satellites.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:26 AM
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10. This Poll says...
They've already got him.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=116x4176#4185

As you know, DU polls have uncanny accuracy.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 04:52 PM
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16. Hello, big conspiracy theorist, you expressed my thoughts
I firmly believe in the existence of news management, even in the existence of President management. One of the consequences being that not Bush is the real problem but the elitist groups that supported him and are now selling Kerry to the voters.
He is much smarter than Bush and certainly preferable, and some things he will change. But will he change the fundamental policies? Will he revoke the Patriot Act, for instance?
Already in July Michael Ruppert of FTW suggested that Kerry might be the chosen one.

Regarding news management: read the detailled essays of Kupferberg:
The Propaganda Preparation for 9/11

There is Something About Omar: Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11
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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 05:56 AM
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24. Gandalf
What's your take on the Kupferberg articles?

Very thick, very detailed...very true?

Captain Mike
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:38 PM
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19. I'm afraid I agree with most of what you said
Don't know that it's quite as co-ordinated (I prefer the "hub and spoke" theory myself) as you lay out, but it's close enough.

And anyway, even if it was all unco-oridnated and coincidental, it wouldn't matter.

We are entering an age where motivations matter little, but the actions as a result of those motivations are EVERYTHING.

I do believe you're right.
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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:28 PM
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20. Enough Diversions... Now It's Back to Bin Ladin

Bush's war against Iraq is almost analogous to the US attacking Brazil after Pearl Harbor while attempting to cover-up Japan's role. In this case the cover-up is the Saudi connection to the hijackers. Now the military is finally making some noises that they are going after Bin Laden... after giving him 12-18 month breather.

If so many Americans can be duped into thinking Bush's policies are a real war on terror... or that his irresponsible tax cuts were a economic stimulus.... then they can be duped into anything.

What's next from George Orwell Bush? War = Peace?
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:41 PM
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21. what do you mean "next?"
He's already done that one.
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CaptainMidnight Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:28 PM
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23. Hey check out this article from TODAY!
http://atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/FB26Ag02.html

Seems to imply that yes indeedy, they're manuevering all over Afghanistan and Pakistan, each "player" getting ready to play his "role" in the capture of Osama.

Tenet was just over there, and Rumsfeld's heading over very soon.

It's heatin up...

Captain Mike
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:13 AM
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25. Well said, Captain!
Notice how yesterday's :tinfoilhat: is becoming tomorrow's reality?

:evilgrin:
dbt
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