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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:32 AM Original message |
Gay marriage: "Separate but equal" is unacceptable |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Here's the current political reality: |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. All the stats show is... |
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Grave Expectations (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I disagree... |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
44. Then you obviously haven't seen... |
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djg21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Nicely Put |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. How about separate water fountains, too? |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Why is it so hard for DUers of all people to understand |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Institutional heterosexism |
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djg21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
42. A spurious argument! |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. A shameful argument |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:45 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. I think you touched on the only possible outcome of this |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #42 |
71. Stand strong for what is RIGHT! |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
45. That's right... |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
39. I'm sure if you polled people in the 1930s |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think the argument is more correctly framed about the wording |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. Excellent post |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
4. exactly right. Either you support the 14th amend. or you don't. |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. Jim Crow gets married?..& "states rights". |
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Maeve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. The "leave it to the states" argument is one of the camel's nose |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. "Jim Crow gets married" |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Sure! |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. No, but... |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:26 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. cool. |
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patricia92243 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
6. Better to crawl befor you walk than never to walk at all. In other words - |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Hmm |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. It took 60 years (after Plessy) and a phalanx of federal troops |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
25. I'm not CRAWLING for anyone |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. "What would your advice have been to Rosa Parks?" |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
8. Stop it! "They" aren't ready for it yet. Incrementalism is the key. |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. I've never been one for incrementalism |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
11. All right. This is what I posted twice yesterday, |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. I was not responding to you |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Is this not the time then for the federal government to step in |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Yes, it is |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but I find your attempt to |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Say what you will |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. I wouldn´t be caught dead in a church |
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roughsatori (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
12. I'm shocked at how many supporters of Gay Jim Crow Laws we have at DU |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. ..they are trying to be pragmatic. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. No. |
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. you need to explain that. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:01 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Sorry. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
17. IMHO this issue is going to be driven by civil disobedience and courts |
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buddhamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
22. well stated, Martin |
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terryg11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
33. Talk to your democratic pres. candidates |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. To be honest |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
36. Correct me if I´m wrong BUT |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Marriage licenses are issued by the state |
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djg21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Actually, it may be both. |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Form and content |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. So what´s the fuzz then ? |
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Sufi Marmot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:45 AM Response to Original message |
49. Marriage vs. civil unions: semantics? |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:49 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I´m married and we married in the town house |
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Sufi Marmot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:07 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Exactly, and you can call it whatever you want... |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:11 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. EXACTLY |
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Sufi Marmot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Works for me... |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:25 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Aye, now our fellow posters need to see the light :-) |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:32 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. If you are proposing to eliminate marriage licenses in favor of |
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Sufi Marmot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:53 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I think I understand your distinction... |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:29 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. My main concern |
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Vernunft II (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I agree, 2 different documents is a bad idea |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
57. First, let's get onto the bus at all. |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:51 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. So, what you're saying is |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:04 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. No |
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MSchreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:33 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Who's "hijacking the bus"?! |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:40 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Of course I agree with you in principles |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:42 AM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Why would you want to give up at this point? We are closer than you think |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 07:03 AM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Take a look at the statistics/polls in this thread |
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MICHAEL_LAPERE (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
68. What the constitution was intended for |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:13 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Welcome to DU! |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
70. Separate religion out of the state's business? |
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