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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:22 PM
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I Think Stern Was Set Up - More Stuff....
OK bear with me - I used to work for that lousy company and they are evil - I sued them and know just how evil they are. Talk about LIARS -

First of all - Stuttering John was stolen away from Stern show. The negotiations took place while Stern was on vacation, and I hear he's pissed. This was announced on Tuesday 24th.

Burbank, California-AP -- Jay Leno's new announcer on "The Tonight Show" will be "Stuttering John" from Howard Stern's radio show.

John Melendez starts March 29th, replacing Edd Hall, who's leaving the show after 12 years to concentrate on doing movies.
http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=1651429

Then Stern takes off on Bush - Tom Hicks CEO of Clear Channel is personal friends with Dumbya, from the days of the Rangers. Hicks donates big bucks to Bush.

First they issue this "no indecency memo" which only came out today - The press releases only mention "an incident" - in regards to the suspension.

According to DU'er on other thread - a CALLER calls up Stern and says something extremely disgusting about black women. Bamm - Stern is gone.

I think they had someone call Stern's show and say the disguting comment - the caller not only covered sex, but race.

Hicks wanted Stern punished and punished good for his Bush bashing. Radio will go to any lengths to punish someone, even if it takes lying, and being set up. I saw this happen many times. They conspire to get rid of someone, while always making sure they cover their "legal" ass.

Rumors will be flying over the next few days. I'm surprised they didn't wait until Friday - that's when they usually do someone in. But Hicks wanted no more of the Bush bashing. He had to go quickly.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:26 PM
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1. I was thinking the same thing
All the disgusting things that go on on Stern's show, but as soon as he starts criticizing bush, he gets canned.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:34 PM
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6. So was I

I would not be at all surprised it was all a setup to get rid of Howard after he started bashing the Shrub.
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:55 PM
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11. Further proof!
That one intelligent remark can ruin a man's entire career.
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SensibleCenterist Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:30 PM
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2. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy
Stern is and always was a jerk. Nobody should want him on their side.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:37 PM
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7. Stern was the first Internet-style broadcaster we had
Stern is not an idiot - he is one of the few real voices in the national media.

Yes he is crass - but if you listen to him, he is also quite brilliant at "taking the piss" out of all the media whores who routinely get up there and lie and lob softball questions at their guests.

Stern has always been a breath of fresh air and humanity in a barren corporate soulless media landscape.

His humor is too subtle for most people. Much of what he does is a subtle satire - taking up a conservative spiel but doing it in such an obviously stupid juvenile fashion that you can't take him seriously.

Whatever you may think of Howard, he should not be censored. Now that we have the Internet, we finally are understanding the type of show he does. In the future, when there is more Internet radio, there will be many more Howards, and radio will be INTERESTING once again.

In the last 10 years, I have NEVER listened to radio - because I now get my news and entertainment from the Internet. However, I have made one exception - for many years, I got up early and TAPED Howard's show.

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SensibleCenterist Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:52 PM
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10. I didn't say he was an idiot
I said he was a jerk. He ripped off his schtick from other DJs and used his clout when he had it to ruin potential competitors. For example that guy in Baltimore -- i forget his name. He's a jerk.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:16 AM
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16. I agree 100% . . .
he should have been booted years ago . . . nothing but adolescent drivel for the bottom 5% of the lowest common denominator . . . set up or not, all he gets from me is "good riddance" . . .
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:10 PM
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37. It's A Shtick With Stern...
I listen to him for a laugh....

It's tongue in cheek...

And I don't think I'm part of the lowest common denominator for listening to him...
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Armand Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:31 PM
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3. Stern was an ass.
Thank God he's done.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:10 AM
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14. He's 'done' on six stations. Not completely.
Howard is an employee of Viacom/Infinity. Not Clear Channel.

His show was syndicated to a half-dozen CC stations.

AFAIK, he's still on the Infinity stations - and he's their big breadwinner. I doubt they'll shut him down.

OTOH, he's been making noises like he's just fed up with the atmosphere, post-Janet's boob. He may just pull the plug himself.

I haven't listened to Stern for nearly 7 years - but I think I'll tune in tomorrow. Should prove interesting.

-as
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:23 AM
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19. Stern is one of the "human" voices we've had in corporate media
Sorry he was too messy for you, Armand. Guess you're so used to the steriile corporate censored media you forgot what a real human being sounds like.

Check out the "ClueTrain" manifesto elsewhere in this thread for a reminder.
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Armand Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:28 AM
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21. Too messy? Ha!
I'm an eligible bachelor in college...Howard Stern is a puritian, considering who my friends are.

I just hate Howard because he's a racist RW jackass.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:56 AM
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22. He's not racist
Have you ever listened to him with a bunch of black people in the room?

They usually crack up over his stupid jokes.

I bet you also think he's homophobic because of his sophomoric remarks about "homos".

As a gay man, I can tell you he's been one of my favorite radio voices.

It's called satire. Too subtle for many people to get.

But take a stab at it:

Listen to Howard "making fun of" black people or "homos". Listen to that underlying smirk in his voice. That smirk is telling you he's making fun of the very people he's parodying.

Compare this to Rush when he gets all furious about gays and blacks. RUSH really means it. HOWARD is making fun of people like Rush.

Like I said, it's very subtle.

A similar example: Shirley Q. Liquor. One of the funniest drag queens on the web - top download at MP3.com. Impersonates a southern black woman's voice. Dozens of black people listen to "her" and crack up. But a strait-laced political group "People of Color in Crisis" gets all pissed off when she does a show in Manhattan. The ONLY person who sticks up for her is the brilliant RuPaul.

Admittedly, some humor is too subtle for some people to appreciate. It would be unfortunate if the idiots were able to censor the airwaves, so the connoisseurs would lose out. But that's what Commie Channel is trying to do.

It is SO funny hearing you say that "Howard is a racist RW jackass"! Maybe you need to stop watching corporate TV where the funny parts are clearly indicated for you by the laugh track. It's a little harder with live free-wheeling radio to figure out where the JOKES are - but you should try deciphering Howard's show sometime - it's REALLY funny.

I'm gay - my boyfriend's black - we think Howard's so funny we get up and TAPE him in the morning sometimes. It's news to us that Howard is "racist and right-wing" as you put it.

Guess they're getting really politically correct on your campus. If Howard's a "puritan" considering who your friends are - why don't you want him on the radio? You think only sterile, non-human voices are allowed on radio?
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:47 AM
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27. No, Rush Limbaugh is a "racist RW jackass" and the offspring of Satan.
n/t
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 08:47 AM
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29. You are totally wrong...
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 08:48 AM by deseo
... if you think Stern is a racist. You are just not paying attention, you listen to the superficial parts and don't "get" the big picture. He is basically making fun of racists and other idiots.

PC in action, once again.
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Armand Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:10 AM
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34. I've seen his show on E! Television...
I know what I'm talking about. Howard Stern is a racist son of a bitch. He's also very sexist. Obviously I'm not the one who's not paying attention.

Turn on E! Television today. Then you'll know what Howard Stern is all about.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:31 PM
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4. You're absolutely correct
And it's just that easy! They will attempt to destroy every dissenter with a voice. I'd wager they're staffing up for the attacks on the upcoming liberal network.
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:32 PM
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5. I would love to hear Howard....
get on another station and let CC have it. Really spill the beans on the whole bullshit conglomerate!!!
I work for a radio station and I swear I wonder how they even get stuff to air sometimes. It's not the staff and air-staff....it's management. Every time I go to work, one word comes to mind - CLUSTERFUCK.
I never really dug Howard's brand of humour, I have listened on occaisioon and had my share of laughs etc. but he did do a lot to break ground, and ramp up talk radio whether you like it or not.
After reading otohara's post, I could understand the whole set up thing. Radio is a nasty ruthless business.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:41 PM
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8. Read the Cluetrain Manifesto to understand why Howard is so important
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 11:42 PM by scottxyz
Before we even had the Internet, Howard was one of the few "human" voices we had in the corporate media.

Armand and Tridim - Have you listened to so much corporate media crap you've forgotten what a human voice sounds like?

Read the following to remember. Then you'll know why Howard is so important, despite all his satirical childishness:

http://www.cluetrain.com

# Markets are conversations.

# Markets consist of human beings, not demographic sectors.

# Conversations among human beings sound human. They are conducted in a human voice.

# Whether delivering information, opinions, perspectives, dissenting arguments or humorous asides, the human voice is typically open, natural, uncontrived.

# People recognize each other as such from the sound of this voice.

# The Internet is enabling conversations among human beings that were simply not possible in the era of mass media.

# Hyperlinks subvert hierarchy.

# In both internetworked markets and among intranetworked employees, people are speaking to each other in a powerful new way.

# These networked conversations are enabling powerful new forms of social organization and knowledge exchange to emerge.

# As a result, markets are getting smarter, more informed, more organized. Participation in a networked market changes people fundamentally.

# People in networked markets have figured out that they get far better information and support from one another than from vendors. So much for corporate rhetoric about adding value to commoditized products.

# There are no secrets. The networked market knows more than companies do about their own products. And whether the news is good or bad, they tell everyone.

# What's happening to markets is also happening among employees. A metaphysical construct called "The Company" is the only thing standing between the two.

# Corporations do not speak in the same voice as these new networked conversations. To their intended online audiences, companies sound hollow, flat, literally inhuman.

# In just a few more years, the current homogenized "voice" of business—the sound of mission statements and brochures—will seem as contrived and artificial as the language of the 18th century French court.

# Already, companies that speak in the language of the pitch, the dog-and-pony show, are no longer speaking to anyone.

# Companies that assume online markets are the same markets that used to watch their ads on television are kidding themselves.

# Companies that don't realize their markets are now networked person-to-person, getting smarter as a result and deeply joined in conversation are missing their best opportunity.

# Companies can now communicate with their markets directly. If they blow it, it could be their last chance.

# Companies need to realize their markets are often laughing. At them.

# Companies need to lighten up and take themselves less seriously. They need to get a sense of humor.

# Getting a sense of humor does not mean putting some jokes on the corporate web site. Rather, it requires big values, a little humility, straight talk, and a genuine point of view.

# Companies attempting to "position" themselves need to take a position. Optimally, it should relate to something their market actually cares about.

# Bombastic boasts—"We are positioned to become the preeminent provider of XYZ"—do not constitute a position.

# Companies need to come down from their Ivory Towers and talk to the people with whom they hope to create relationships.

# Public Relations does not relate to the public. Companies are deeply afraid of their markets.

# By speaking in language that is distant, uninviting, arrogant, they build walls to keep markets at bay.

# Most marketing programs are based on the fear that the market might see what's really going on inside the company.

# Elvis said it best: "We can't go on together with suspicious minds."

# Brand loyalty is the corporate version of going steady, but the breakup is inevitable—and coming fast. Because they are networked, smart markets are able to renegotiate relationships with blinding speed.

# Networked markets can change suppliers overnight. Networked knowledge workers can change employers over lunch. Your own "downsizing initiatives" taught us to ask the question: "Loyalty? What's that?"

# Smart markets will find suppliers who speak their own language.

# Learning to speak with a human voice is not a parlor trick. It can't be "picked up" at some tony conference.

# To speak with a human voice, companies must share the concerns of their communities.

# But first, they must belong to a community.

# Companies must ask themselves where their corporate cultures end.

# If their cultures end before the community begins, they will have no market.

# Human communities are based on discourse—on human speech about human concerns.

# The community of discourse is the market.

# Companies that do not belong to a community of discourse will die.

# Companies make a religion of security, but this is largely a red herring. Most are protecting less against competitors than against their own market and workforce.

# As with networked markets, people are also talking to each other directly inside the company—and not just about rules and regulations, boardroom directives, bottom lines.

# Such conversations are taking place today on corporate intranets. But only when the conditions are right.

# Companies typically install intranets top-down to distribute HR policies and other corporate information that workers are doing their best to ignore.

# Intranets naturally tend to route around boredom. The best are built bottom-up by engaged individuals cooperating to construct something far more valuable: an intranetworked corporate conversation.

# A healthy intranet organizes workers in many meanings of the word. Its effect is more radical than the agenda of any union.

# While this scares companies witless, they also depend heavily on open intranets to generate and share critical knowledge. They need to resist the urge to "improve" or control these networked conversations.

# When corporate intranets are not constrained by fear and legalistic rules, the type of conversation they encourage sounds remarkably like the conversation of the networked marketplace.

# Org charts worked in an older economy where plans could be fully understood from atop steep management pyramids and detailed work orders could be handed down from on high.

# Today, the org chart is hyperlinked, not hierarchical. Respect for hands-on knowledge wins over respect for abstract authority.

# Command-and-control management styles both derive from and reinforce bureaucracy, power tripping and an overall culture of paranoia.

# Paranoia kills conversation. That's its point. But lack of open conversation kills companies.

# There are two conversations going on. One inside the company. One with the market.

# In most cases, neither conversation is going very well. Almost invariably, the cause of failure can be traced to obsolete notions of command and control.

# As policy, these notions are poisonous. As tools, they are broken. Command and control are met with hostility by intranetworked knowledge workers and generate distrust in internetworked markets.

# These two conversations want to talk to each other. They are speaking the same language. They recognize each other's voices.

# Smart companies will get out of the way and help the inevitable to happen sooner.

# If willingness to get out of the way is taken as a measure of IQ, then very few companies have yet wised up.

# However subliminally at the moment, millions of people now online perceive companies as little more than quaint legal fictions that are actively preventing these conversations from intersecting.

# This is suicidal. Markets want to talk to companies.

# Sadly, the part of the company a networked market wants to talk to is usually hidden behind a smokescreen of hucksterism, of language that rings false—and often is.

# Markets do not want to talk to flacks and hucksters. They want to participate in the conversations going on behind the corporate firewall.

# De-cloaking, getting personal: We are those markets. We want to talk to you.

# We want access to your corporate information, to your plans and strategies, your best thinking, your genuine knowledge. We will not settle for the 4-color brochure, for web sites chock-a-block with eye candy but lacking any substance.

# We're also the workers who make your companies go. We want to talk to customers directly in our own voices, not in platitudes written into a script.

# As markets, as workers, both of us are sick to death of getting our information by remote control. Why do we need faceless annual reports and third-hand market research studies to introduce us to each other?

# As markets, as workers, we wonder why you're not listening. You seem to be speaking a different language.

# The inflated self-important jargon you sling around—in the press, at your conferences—what's that got to do with us?

# Maybe you're impressing your investors. Maybe you're impressing Wall Street. You're not impressing us.

# If you don't impress us, your investors are going to take a bath. Don't they understand this? If they did, they wouldn't let you talk that way.

# Your tired notions of "the market" make our eyes glaze over. We don't recognize ourselves in your projections—perhaps because we know we're already elsewhere.

# We like this new marketplace much better. In fact, we are creating it.

# You're invited, but it's our world. Take your shoes off at the door. If you want to barter with us, get down off that camel!

# We are immune to advertising. Just forget it.

# If you want us to talk to you, tell us something. Make it something interesting for a change.

# We've got some ideas for you too: some new tools we need, some better service. Stuff we'd be willing to pay for. Got a minute?

# You're too busy "doing business" to answer our email? Oh gosh, sorry, gee, we'll come back later. Maybe.

# You want us to pay? We want you to pay attention.

# We want you to drop your trip, come out of your neurotic self-involvement, join the party.

# Don't worry, you can still make money. That is, as long as it's not the only thing on your mind.

# Have you noticed that, in itself, money is kind of one-dimensional and boring? What else can we talk about?

# Your product broke. Why? We'd like to ask the guy who made it. Your corporate strategy makes no sense. We'd like to have a chat with your CEO. What do you mean she's not in?

# We want you to take 50 million of us as seriously as you take one reporter from The Wall Street Journal.

# We know some people from your company. They're pretty cool online. Do you have any more like that you're hiding? Can they come out and play?

# When we have questions we turn to each other for answers. If you didn't have such a tight rein on "your people" maybe they'd be among the people we'd turn to.

# When we're not busy being your "target market," many of us are your people. We'd rather be talking to friends online than watching the clock. That would get your name around better than your entire million dollar web site. But you tell us speaking to the market is Marketing's job.

# We'd like it if you got what's going on here. That'd be real nice. But it would be a big mistake to think we're holding our breath.

# We have better things to do than worry about whether you'll change in time to get our business. Business is only a part of our lives. It seems to be all of yours. Think about it: who needs whom?

# We have real power and we know it. If you don't quite see the light, some other outfit will come along that's more attentive, more interesting, more fun to play with.

# Even at its worst, our newfound conversation is more interesting than most trade shows, more entertaining than any TV sitcom, and certainly more true-to-life than the corporate web sites we've been seeing.

# Our allegiance is to ourselves—our friends, our new allies and acquaintances, even our sparring partners. Companies that have no part in this world, also have no future.

# Companies are spending billions of dollars on Y2K. Why can't they hear this market timebomb ticking? The stakes are even higher.

# We're both inside companies and outside them. The boundaries that separate our conversations look like the Berlin Wall today, but they're really just an annoyance. We know they're coming down. We're going to work from both sides to take them down.

# To traditional corporations, networked conversations may appear confused, may sound confusing. But we are organizing faster than they are. We have better tools, more new ideas, no rules to slow us down.

# We are waking up and linking to each other. We are watching. But we are not waiting.

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DustMolecule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:21 AM
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18. WOW!!! This is wonderful!!!
I've never seen this before - it's great! Thanks for posting!

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 11:44 PM
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9. I'm sorry, but not really sorry, to see Stern get smacked like this
His show has been a one man war on decency. He regularly degrades women and makes racist stereotypes "fun" and acceptable. There's not a person in the world he doesn't demean by spreading his filth on the air. He is idea pollution, cultural pollution. I really don't mind Stern getting yanked off the air, so good riddance.

That said, I'm even more appalled to hear that this happened now. It's clear the only thing that got him yanked was his political views. He's been crossing the line for too long, but they only care the second he troubles the president's reelection.

The weird part is that most of his political influence is probably limited to New York's tri-state area. But those three states are almost guaranteed to vote against Bush anyway. There's no real threat to Bush from Stern. I think that they just smacked him off the air in order to make an example of him to other on air personalities. Keep it dumb, keep it lively, and make the world a happy place for the billionaires to play in.

It just sucks that a pig like Stern becomes a martyr this way. But I got five bucks says he sells out, gets back on the air in a couple of months and ends up saying stuff that makes Bush look good (or at least starts to more aggressively ridicule Kerry & Edwards).
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:00 AM
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12. But if Stern's fans feel it was because of his opinions on bush, it could
cause them to sour on bush. For them this could be the first time the long arm of the neo cons have affected them in a way they can understand.

We already know his fans can be a rowdy bunch.
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bubba_fett Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:10 AM
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15. It shouldn't matter if you agree with him or not..
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 12:13 AM by bubba_fett
once you let someone get yanked off the air for their views, we are one step closer to seeing it happen more and more, and closer to it being more and more difficult to fight. If your opinion is "good, didn't like 'im anyway", then you're being complacent.

I think we should all defend him, no matter what we think of him, he's been an advocate of free speech since day 1. If the ACLU can stick up for Rush, then we can all stick up for Howard Stern.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:17 AM
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17. He is not being yanked for his political views
if Clear Channel didn't like his views, they could simply stop carrying him. They're not doing that. They're suspending him for an unspecified period of time. Furthermore, Clear Channel is NOT Stern's main carrier. Not by a long shot.

They are suspending Stern because a horrendously racist comment was allowed on the air today.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 01:01 AM
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23. And You Know This To Be True Because?
do you work in radio -
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:20 PM
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39. I've heard a lot worse from his & other callers
Usually, the callers get a lot more leeway in what they say, on Stern or elsewhere. A freeper-type got through on my local fairly liberal afternoon talk show here in Hartford, CT and he managed to get the F word in twice before he got cut off.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:04 AM
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13. Why would Clear Channel
even need a setup?

They could simply not carry his show.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:25 AM
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20. The contract might require cause to drop the show (nt)
nt
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:00 PM
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35. Contracts, Legal Stuff - Covering Their Butt
you have no idea what corporate radio goes through to cover their asses. My attorneys said they had NEVER worked on a case dealing with an industry that was so evil...everyone lied, memo's appeared out of no where, evidence against me which had nothing to do with nothing.

"Simply" is not a word in the radio business. Everything is very complicated, especially when dealing with million dollar contracts and big ass egos like Stern
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 01:07 AM
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24. Lucky for me Howard is carried on an Infinity Broadcasting
channel here in Portland, so I'll be able to hear him rant
uninterrupted this morning. I have never listened to Stern
before, but I'll take any anti-Bush voice in the storm after
losing Malloy tonight.

Way to go, Howard!!!
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 02:33 AM
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25. John Hogan, is president and CEO of Clear Channel Radio
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 02:37 AM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
I agree with the sentiment of your post though.



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thesemodernsocks Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:04 AM
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26. -
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:19 AM by FlyingSaucerAttack
Edit.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 08:09 AM
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28. EMAIL THEM! Here are the addresses:
I emailed Clear Channel telling them I think it was a political move to suspend Stern because Hicks is a friend of Bush and Stern is saying he won't vote for Bush.

randypalmer@clearchannel.com,webmaster@clearchannel.com,lisacdollinger@clearchannel.com,pr@clearchannel.com

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:20 PM
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38. KICK for Clear Channel e-mail addy's
Everyone should write them!
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:04 AM
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30. 7 second delay
If Stern didn't use it, he is an idiot and deserves what he gets.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:11 AM
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31. What if a caller says the same thing on Rush's show?
If the whole thing started with a 2 second boob shot, thern ANY indecency is cause for penalty. A caller made the inflammatory remark, right?

Hmmmmmm......
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:14 AM
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32. I think fat boy uses the delay
Because he doesn't want sneaky liberal callers.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:36 AM
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33. He's been burned twice recently
2 callers got thru with pillhead/hypocrite statements
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 12:03 PM
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36. I imagine the engineer was fired
or should have been.
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