There are actually Gay Republicans?

[Jack_Dawson]

...Why? How? Huh?

The Log Cabin Republicans, a gay GOP group, worried that Bush risks alienating the 1 million gays and lesbians who voted for him in 2000 by pushing for the constitutional amendment.

“We believe that this is a move to start a culture war, fueled and pushed by the radical right, that will end up in George Bush’s defeat, and defeat for a lot of good Republicans who are with us on equality,” Mark Mead, the group’s political director, said in an interview with AP Radio.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4360783/

[DK666]

1. RINO

eom

[Jack_Dawson]

3. RINO?

[Caution]

9. Republican In Name Only

[Smirnoff]

8. eom?

I've tried I really can't figure this one out, help?

[eyesroll]

14. end of message

Also: n/t = no text in message

[JI7]

2. tax cuts

i'm sure it has a lot to do with tax cuts.

[Skittles]

4. gay people can be as greedy and selfish and disgusting as straight people

that's how

[Robbien]

5. Aw come on! Do we really need another Log Cabin thread? eom

[cboy4]

32. You can never have too many

discussions/threads about civil rights, albeit we're mostly preaching to the choir on DU.

[BR_Parkway]

risks alienating?

The SOB slapped my face, that's just a little stronger than "alienated". He said I don't count, I'm second class, and that my religion wasn't valid. I got over being Republican during the Regan years - and that had more to do with fiscally stupid policies and the realization that OxyRush and the rest of that crew really weren't saying anything, they were just spewing hate.

[coloradodem2005]

6. Yeah...

I just cannot believe that any Gay person would embrace a party that is so hostile to their rights and would single them out and deny them rights that everybody else gets.

[adriennel]

12. Dems should keep this in mind

while beating their "I'm against gay marriage but for civil unions" drums. it's hypocrisy, and like the Repugs, the Dems are all too willing to accept it.

[distortionmarshall]

7. rofl....

yup..... there really are.... just a testament to the stupidity of americans actually.... anyone who's not affluent, white, straight, and male is a fool if they're a republican...

gay people can be just as stupid as straights.... <sigh>

[pnb]

10. Why is that so surprising?

You find it surprising that some people actually are interested in other aspects of life other than their sexuality? Is that all gay people are supposed to care about?

Seems like a rather insulting assumption to me.

[Jack_Dawson]

13. To put it politely...

The republican party doesn't strike me as particularly "friendly" toward the gay community.

[pnb]

17. And again...

...why the assumption that that would be the number one reason for a person to choose a particular party or candidate? Doesn't it occur to you that some gay people can actually believe in most points of the republican party and disagree with most points of the democratic party and make a decision based on those reasons?

Why should "gayness" be the deciding factor?

[Jack_Dawson]

19. I get your analogy, but I don't think it applies

I don't think being gay or straight is like being for or against school vouchers. It's the essence of one's being - and the republicans want to use that to make you a 2nd class citizen. Hey whatever to each his own, it just strikes me as odd that's all.

[pnb]

23. Maybe I am missing something

I am heterosexual but it is certainly not the essence of who I am...just one part of that make-up. I just assume that this COULD very well be true of others as well. That's why I don't necessarily assume it as an end all be all issue.

I actually know a couple of republicans who are homosexual (well actually, they are one couple). They don't think of their homosexuality as any big deal and they make their decisions based on other matters...simple as that.

[distortionmarshall]

21. are you serious?

what an idiotic response - gayness should be a sufficient deciding factor because the republican party is a veiled hate group. duh.

blackness should be a sufficient deciding factor for joining the kkk because the kkk is an unveiled hate group

lol - i can just imagine: "i know they hate niggers, like me, but i agree with them on everything else, so i can look past it. i'm not going to let that be the deciding factor." - ROFL

wow - the things you see in this group....

[pnb]

24. Oh, if you want to go by that stereotype, perhaps

But unlike your tenuous kkk comparison, the republican party does not exist to hate, like the kkk does. It covers a world of ideas (although how so many become lousy ideas is another question).

In other words, they are not a hate group so I would have to say that your "proof" of my "idiotic response" is, well, idiotic.

[distortionmarshall]

26. rofl....

i think every hate group that has ever existed would love to have you do their PR - pity only the republicans get you.....

the republican party turned into a veiled hate group in 1964, btw...

simple empirical test... take the biggest hate groups in this country (that you and I will both agree _are_ hate groups). See which way they vote. By the principle "the candidate doesn't fall far from the voter", i call qed.

[pnb]

30. rofl all you want

If you are unable to comprehend the fact that there are homosexuals who actually pay attention to any of the many other issues that exist other than gay issues and agree with republicans on them, that's a sign of just plain stubbornness. And to say that they shouldn't care about any of the rest is just plain presumptious.

If you want to be that way, fine. I prefer not to decide who is the right candidate or party for other people.

[distortionmarshall]

31. wow!

way to not answer the simple, convincing empirical test i provided...

and way to put words in my mouth that i never said.....

lol - that's what i'm known for - deciding "who is the right candidate or party for other people"...

gays in the republican party are slated to become darwin award winners.... just like blacks in the republican party... what's his name, Oklahoma football player-turned GOP representative, he finally caught a clue and quit.... at least some people learn eventually....

[pnb]

33. wow

Your simple test was such a way to try and change the subject of the post anyway which was that some people don't care about the same things you do. Why answer something which has nothing to do with my point. I may as well as countered with questions about math.

Oh, and saying someone is a darwin award winner for their choice of party is certainly indicative of one who has decided what the right party is for someone.

I guess according to your logic, any white or heterosexual who is not a republican is a possible darwin award winner as well.

[distortionmarshall]

27. poor, poor,

... maligned, stereotyped republicans....

rofl

[pnb]

34. hmm...

I guess all the stereotypes that the right has about the left are true then also, huh?

[Wetzelbill]

11. my Congressman Jim Kolbe (AZ) is a gay 'puke

Not sure how that exactly works out, but more power to him, I suppose. Seems antithetical to me. Sorta like being a Black member of the Aryan Nation.

[nickinSTL]

15. gay GOP/pagans

Yeah, I have a pagan friend who's Republican.

Can't figure that out either. After all, Bush doesn't believe Wicca is a religion, her brand of paganism sure isn't by his standards either.

[loftycity]

16. I f you respect tolerance and expect it...than you have to give it

Republicans have no tolerance. To live in a progressive society you have to be tolerant and expect to be treated that way. Give everyone the dignity that they deserve.

[beanball]

29. Tolerance

the repugs tolerate conserative gays its the liberal gays they hate.(Kolbe and "oil can Chaney's daughter are accepted by the rw nuts.)

[DK666]

18. I'm Straight and Married for 19 years

And if you want to get married so what It does not diminish my marriage one bit. Nor does it bother me. Why cant people show devout love for one another by celebrating their faith together. The other side wields faith like a club and hides behind the "good book".

Some of my friends work for XODUS magazine they have very strong opinions on this but the underlying thread is its discrimination plain and simple regardless if you flower it up with faith.

[BillZBubb]

20. of course there are gay Repugs

Gays aren't any smarter (or less) than the general population. I know straights who don't have two nickels to rub together and vote Repug. That to me is even more bizarre than a well-to-do gay voting Repug.

Probably those gays buy into the Repug lies about limited government--and think that means the government won't interfere in their lives. Someday they might wake up.

Heck there are a lot of black Repugs too. Idiocy (or maybe self delusion) knows no boundaries.

[tom_paine]

22. Hell, I'll bet there were Jewish Nazis.

In any large, statistical group, it is inevitable that some will align with the forces against their own people.

It is as human a truth as you can find.

[cboy4]

25. I respect my friends in the "cabin" BUT,

come on now! Being a member of the LCR is like
a spotted owl activist being a member of the timber
industry.

Timber Industry: "We here at ACE Timber love the rare and
endangered spotted owls."

Log Cabin Repub: "Aww shucks, thanks guys, you have my
support because I trust and believe in
you that you'll save the ancient forests."

Timber Industry: "You fags, uh, patriotic gay Americans are
the best. Can we count on a donation to
purchase bird poison and chain saws....uh,
I mean spotted owl bird seed?



:puke: :puke:

[DieboldMustDie]

28. There are probably a lot more gay Republicans...

than are willing to admit it. :evilgrin: