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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:33 AM
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"Only Between One Man and a Woman"
This is supposedly what is being proposed. Supporters argue without it, what's next? It seems to me that "one man and one woman" could be one of the things they're using as a scare tactic...mother/son, father/daughter, cousin, brother/sister marriages.
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BruinAlum Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:45 AM
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1. Isn't it to exclude polygamy or bigamy?
The mother/son, father/daughter, cousin, brother/sister scenarios would never occur to me. :shrug:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:54 AM
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2. It's one of Falwell's arguments
I heard him say the mother/son thing yesterday so it occurred to me that the Amendment he supports would allow it. I also wanted to reach through the TV and strangle to grinning hatemonger, but that's another story.
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BruinAlum Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:48 AM
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6. Ohhhh, Falwell. He says gay marriage will lead to bestiality too.
:eyes:

He's probably suggesting approval of gay marriage would condone incest, or something asinine like that.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 05:55 PM
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11. He also said that the WTC attacks were God's punishment
for all of the homosexuality in the country...
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 09:08 AM
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7. Ummm, actually, until recently in human history...
your mate was most likely to be your cousin. In a hunter - gatherer tribal society, the population base of available mates is somewhat small and all are going to be related to you.

In many societies today your cousin is your ideal marriage partner.

It is a uniquely American taboo against cousin marriage. In Europe cousing marriages, until recently were very common. (Charles Darwin married his cousin. There are lots of other famous cousin marriages.) Modern genetic studies have shown that the genetic risk is about the same as any other pairing, unless there are definate known family traits. Further, positive as well as negative traits can be inherited.

First cousin marriage is legal in some states, and second cousin in all states. I can't find the studies easily, but I have seen articles showing that cousin marriages tend to be more stable than others. They both generally come from nearly identical social/cultural backgrounds so there are fewer conflicts. Since they grew up together there are fewer person surprises. And they don't get a sudden new crop of relatives. The mother-in-law is already and aunt anyway, so not much changes. The wedding is simpler. The bride's family is also the groom's family so it doesn't matter who sits where.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 06:23 PM
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13. My parents were second cousins. ~ gulp... that's the reason....
From the hills of Tennessee and Virginia. Now you all know to cut me lots of slack as I may be a bit slooowwwwww.
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SerpentX Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:58 AM
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3. Apples and oranges.
If I woke up one morning to find my birth gender had changed, could I marry a man? yes. Could I marry my brother? no.

Hey, as long as we're talking hypotheticals, why not shoot the moon?
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:33 AM
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4. Yes, but *WHICH* man and *WHICH* woman? I mean, if there's only one.
They'd better choose the one man and the one woman for this marriage
*PRETTY DARNED CAREFULLY!*. :)

Atlant
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 05:53 PM
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10. New Reality TV Show
Who Wants to Marry?

The audience gets to pick the ONE man and the ONE woman who get to marry. Everybody else's marriage license is null and void.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:46 AM
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5. duh, that makes no sense as argued
THEIR argument, not you. So what? only one man and a woman does not define WHICH man and woman. Still could be a brother and sister and they would be A man and A woman right?

The local news in my corner of hell was on this binge last night as well. They were almost hysterical and kept repeating this (as well as every "pastor" they could round up)
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 10:09 AM
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8. Yep! They'll be backpeddling
to kingdom come on this one! LOL
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 10:30 AM
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9. If marraige is so divinely sanctified, outlaw divorce.

That's sure to save the holy matrimony thing, right?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 06:00 PM
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12. "one man and one woman" - protect this.
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 06:00 PM by HypnoToad
One man and one woman can:

Can make a baby.

That's all.

Nothing more.

Nothing less.

And I agree on what they want to do to protect marriage. Want to protect marriage? Stop divorce. Want to protect marriage? Stop human trash like brittney spears from marrying and then getting an anullment 3 hours later. Want to protect marriage? Keep it within tradition and have the cops confine the whackos who engage in party flavor themed weddings (ala 'star trek weddings' and so on.) Want to protect marriage? Do all of that and then I'll take them seriously when they say 'keep it between one man and one woman'. Until then, they're full of cow cack.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 06:37 PM
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14. shouldn't it be: one man and one woman...at a time?
considering the reality of divorce?
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