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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:16 PM
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PNAC on The Daily Show
John Podhoretz making a surprise appearence. Don't see much of this guy.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:21 PM
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1. He's getting demolished.
And Jon isn't even trying. I think he's embarassed that this guy is such an obvious dickweed. The crowd is giggling with disbelief at what this ass clown actually is trying to advance.

Jon is great, as usual. :)
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:22 PM
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2. Jon is trying to tell the audience
that they shouldn't be laughing at him..
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:26 PM
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8. that felt different.
Something just didn't feel right about that interview. Jon exposed the worldview of these guys, and he didn't seem comfortable with it.
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:23 PM
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4. Demolished
I second that, this audience does NOT like this jerk at all!!!

Love it. Nail him Jon.

Jax
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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:23 PM
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3. I don't get comedy central...
Ever since I accidently killed our free cable :cry:

(the Daily Show has turned out to be the only show I actually miss)
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:23 PM
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5. Who does he think he's convincing?....Bush is a MORON and Jon is out
pointing on everything!
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muffin_man Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:25 PM
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6. Trying to watch
and read posts but seems to me Jon is agreeing w/ him as far as saying both sides are extreme. Am I getting the words scrambled?
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 01:43 AM
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11. I got the same impression
Stewart sold out. I've seen way too many Halliburton commercials on that show not to be entitled to laugh when someone says Bush is the greatest president. He was way too hard on the audience. You know, sometimes it's rude to point out people are rude. People are human, and sometimes they can't handle holding it in anymore. That's just life.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 01:46 AM
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13. I didn't watch the whole interview, but when I watched, they
I didn't watch the whole interview, but when I watched, they seemed to agree that no one should use harsh language against a politician.

Then I changed the channel.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 11:25 PM
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7. OMIGOD!
We are being assimilated. What a *******!!!!!!
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 12:16 AM
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9. The audience was unusually hostile to Podhoretz.
This cheered me. But Jon Stewart probably felt he had to at least be polite to an invited guest--so he begged for civility. And then he did proceed to demolish the guy with reasonable questions. It was made worse (that is, better) by the fact that Podhoretz actually seems not to understand why anyone would disagree with him, why anyone would hate *Bush. Is it possible for him (who surely thinks of himself as intelligent) to be so blind? Podhoretz himself was the reason this interview was so weird.

Anyway, the audience's hostility was encouraging. They weren't buying a word this guy uttered.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 01:35 AM
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10. Just saw the rebroadcast, it was an odd interview
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 01:41 AM by Woodstock
Jon Stewart has basically been saying Bush is a war-mongering moron for the past year. There is really no two ways to interpret some of those bits. I mean, there isn't much Bush does that doesn't get MEGA mocked. Yeah, he mocks Dems, but not with the same gusto by far. Stewart has been on interviews like Larry King and Now saying he liked Clinton and is a Democrat. So he's partisan left. So the show is partisan left. Name me one other show on broadcast TV or cable TV that is, though. None. Now name me a show that is partisan right. Hell, just turn on the AM dial, and you've got several going at once at any time of day. They've got an entire news network. Do you think it would be so terribly bad if we have ONE partisan left half hour show? Maybe, pretty please? Now Stewart interviews a guy who says such incredibly laughable things, and Stewart scolds the audience for laughing. I mean, it would have been nearly physically impossible to refrain - if some people couldn't manage it, well, nobody is perfect. The right is flooding TDS - a show we all basically watch to hear SOMEBODY in the media say the truth about Bush - with ultra right neocon guests and Halliburton commercials - and we can't react? Sorry Jon, but it was actually rude of YOU to say the audience was wrong to let loose what seemed to me were scattered tense chuckles at some really OUTRAGEOUS statements the guest made. This hasn't exactly been a picnic for us to live with the radical right controlling all three branches of government. Tell you what, Jon, I laughed, too. Out loud. It was freaking hysterical. So sue me.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 01:44 AM
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12. I guess it just boils down to the difference between
Liberals and Conservatives. What O'liley will do in one second, John Stewart would never do, even though his show is supposedly comedy. We are shackled by our sensibility.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 01:50 AM
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14. I'm all for civility but I'm also for cutting people slack
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 01:59 AM by Woodstock
We've been putting up with a lot. We are basically shut out of TV, radio, the newspapers, the Senate, the House, the judicial branch, the executive branch. We're watching our civil liberties go up in smoke day by day. Our relatives and friends are losing life and limb in Iraq. People are sick and can't afford to go to the doctor or buy medicine. Our jobs are going overseas. Pollution is at dangerous levels, and our natural resources are being ravaged. It just keeps getting worse. And it seems like there's nothing we can do about it. They say the Senate and House will become even more Republican. And the odds are that our votes won't even be counted in the presidential election. We're about to be hit with the biggest Republican election warchest in history - a deluge of day and night attack ads on Democrats. These are some tough times. If we laugh when someone says Bush is brilliant and one of the greatest presidents, after being deluged with Halliburton commercials while watching the only show that leans left in existence, well, maybe that's not rude, but human.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:00 AM
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15. Oh I wasn't disagreeing with you at all
I was just stating a fact. Proportionally liberals are far more rational and level headed then conservatives. The fact that we are liberal is part and parcel with what we believe in, our morals, and thus the way we behave.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 02:05 AM
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16. That's why I love listening to Mike Malloy
Sometimes you just want to hear someone say the emperor has no clothes. And now after tomorrow, we won't have that anymore, either. I think if we had the SLIGHTEST bit of empowerment, we'd maybe not need for it, but it can be pretty frustrating being shut out of your own country.
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