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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:59 PM
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I Hate To Do This But Another Gay Related Thread
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 09:03 PM by HornBuckler
There Have Been A Lot Of GREAT Threads On This - But I Have One

Question : The Right (Or Should I Say Those Against gay marriage)
Keep Saying That Gay Marriage Is NOT Discrimination Because Gay People CHOOSE To Be Gay. Or, Homosexuality Is By Choice Not Genetics

I Could SWEAR I Read Somewhere That Homosexuality Is A Product Of Genetics And It Spans The Entire Animal Kingdom - Even Down To Houseflies.


Anybody Have Anymore Insight?
If It Can Be Easily Cited As A Genetic Condition They Could No Longer Argue That It's Not Discriminatory.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:05 PM
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1. then...
discirmination against christians would be fine because they choose to be christian.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:06 PM
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2. Brilliant
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 09:10 PM by HornBuckler
I Like That ALOT


EDIT

Unfortunately It Doesn't Help The Argument


I Think It's Great - But Alot Of These Tools Don't - We Need Ammo And I'm Looking For It
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:09 PM
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3. That is a great point
LOL
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Scottie72 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:16 PM
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7. Awsome comeback!
I'll have to remember that one.
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lcooksey Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:14 PM
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4. Check out this great book on animal behavior
Biological Exuberance : Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity by Bruce Bagemihl. It's a huge book (in paperback, 768 pages!) documenting reports from naturalists and animal behaviorists that had not been making it into scientific publications for years because, you know, gay sex is icky.

All sorts of statistics on homosexual behavior, intersexed animals (having both male and female physical traits), etc. Awesome book.

Here is the Amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/031225377X/qid=1077675037//ref=pd_ka_1/102-7821095-3464157?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:15 PM
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6. Great!
I'm Sure There Are More, Why Isn't Homosexuality Illustrated As A Genetic Function Instead Of Something One Chooses?
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:14 PM
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5. One Good Thing About Bush
He Has Made Me A Gay Rights Advocate - I Have Never Have Been Against Gays (Maybe When I Was 5-8yrs Old To Be Fair) I never Thought Of Myself As An Advocate. That Is To Say, I Never Really Gave A Shit. Now, Wholeheartedly, I Am In Full Support Of Gay Marriage. Thanks Bush - It's The ONLY Good Thing You've Done For Me.

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Scottie72 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:18 PM
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9. Thank you!
Thank you! We need all the support we can get.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:18 PM
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8. Genetics
There is definitely evidence that homosexuality is genetic and homosexuality does exist in other species. However, we must remember that we are not dealing with a pro-science crowd. Right wingers tend to dismiss any study that does not confirm what they want to believe as "flawed" (see their response to global warming).
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:21 PM
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11. Great Man Great
Yer Right However - Maybe The Only Solution Is To Wait Until These Right Wing (And Maybe Some Of You Left Wingers) Drop Dead.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:21 PM
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10. i have done some internet research
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 09:24 PM by seabeyond
in the past so vague and dont hold me to anything. what i understand genetically it comes from the mother and the more sons she has more chance one will be gay. example mother in law had four boys the first two are not gay, the last two are. she has the daughter, the daughter would be carry this gene

also i heard in research a part of the brain, starting with h (sorry not good info) i believe just back and above right ear, dont remember name, on gay males it is significantly larger than in straight males.

those are the pieces i know on the science of it

and yes has been since beginning of time and in all parts of the animal kingdom, told that to a catholic friend and she said no no it is in no animal kingdom, total mis information givin so they could alienate and condone outrage at gay
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:24 PM
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12. Oh Ofcourse!
Hell, I've Used The Argument That Homosexuality Is A Product Of Evolution And That It Plays A Vital Part. The Right Jumps Immediately On My Ass About "Evolution Doesn't Exist, It's Just A Theory" Man If I Were Born Gay, I Sure As Shit Would Want The Same Rights. Why Can't People GET THIS!!!!!
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