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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 06:53 PM
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Republicans want war with gays. NOT us.
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 07:07 PM by Cannikin
Gay marriage may be drawing protesters by the hundreds, the attention of courts in Massachusetts and California, and the scrutiny of President Bush, The governors are in Washington for four days of discussions at the annual meeting of the National Governors Association. Democratic governors see it either as a distraction from the failures of President Bush or a wedge issue that the GOP can use to rally conservative voters in the fall, and they insist the matter should be dropped. "Let's stay focused on jobs," Bob Holden of Missouri said Monday.

he topic isn't high on the agenda for many Republicans either. But some GOP governors believe it undermines moral values in the country and view that as a factor that could help GOP chances in the fall elections. "It grieves me that we even have to think it would be necessary to pass a constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman," said Republican governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas. "It never occurred to me that we would have states that would define marriage in a way that has no historical precedent ever, none." (Huckabee, who is a minister and a GLUTTON is my governor here in Arkansas. Note: If you ever go to prison in Arkansas, just find Jesus and Huckabee will let you out, regardless of your crime)

He and several other Southern or conservative GOP governors expressed strong support for an amendment and decried what they saw as activist judges and mayors challenging the laws that they are supposed to uphold. Thirty-nine states have passed laws banning gay marriage. The issue has leapt ahead in the public debate, as the Massachusetts supreme judicial court ruled this month that anything less than full-fledged marriage for gays in Massachusetts would be unconstitutional. Since then, San Francisco officials have begun performing same-sex marriages and have challenged their state law banning such unions.

Democrats just want the question to go away. "As I travel my state, people want to know where the next job is going to come from. 'Are my children being well educated?"' said Iowa governor Tom Vilsack, a Democrat. "Those are the issues that people address to me." Gay marriage? He doesn't hear about it, Vilsack said in comments echoed by many other Democrats. "It's not an issue in my state," said Gov. Jennifer Granholm of Michigan. "I'm certain the Republicans want this as an issue. There will be an attempt to make it an issue, a wedge issue."

The GOP has looked at it and seen that for some voters the issue is important enough for them to get out and vote, according to Bill McInturff, a GOP pollster who briefed a meeting of the Republican Governors Association over the weekend. "This is going to be a part of the 2004 campaign," McInturff said.

http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=11425&sd=02/24/04
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:08 PM
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1. gay kick!
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:10 PM
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2. The war is on yes indeed.
Gays did not start it but cannot afford to give one inch on this issue. If this happens everyone is at risk. First they came for the gays.....
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 07:13 PM
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3. We are the new Willie Horton.
Since I know KKKarl and KKKrew monitor this place. Here's a nice cake for them with a message.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:16 PM
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7. lol lol lol
do i get a piece or only for the people you were talking, what a wonderful cake like that, i say lets not share
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:29 AM
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8. lol...you guys are killin' me
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:02 PM
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4. This actually is going to help us
I may be fooling myself but the more shrubbie talks about this issue the more he looks like the far right wing nut that he actually is. This issue is going to screw him. He had to come out strongly against gay marriage so his his fundie base wouldn't abandon him. Hence his support for a constitutional amendment.

Now that he has done that it should be pretty easy to say "however you may feel about gay marriage, isn't messing with the constitution just a little extreme? and then refocus the debate on economics, the war, bush's lies or any number of other issues that resonate more strongly with the majority of voices.

Don't get me wrong we need to fight bush on this, but the GOP is using this as a wedge issue to divide us by pulling away the socially conservative democrats. We need to keep the focus on bush and his many failures and short comings and not allow the pubs to frame the debate on their terms.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 08:04 PM
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5. Never start a fight
but always finish one.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 09:12 PM
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6. kick
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