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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:39 PM
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We're the party that rallies around the 1st ammendment so this Mel Gibson
ranting is pure hypocrisy. The Man could make a movie about Hitler if he wanted to - its Fucking America. Get over it!!!

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:42 PM
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1. We can rail against him because of that first amendment
Follow your own advice.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:45 PM
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4. I'm not saying you CAN'T - I'm saying it's inane
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 03:46 PM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
when people flip out and say he shouldn't have made this movie, this is wrong, blah blah blah - either see the movie or don't.
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waterman Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:49 PM
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7. Yee haw - you said it! Right on!
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:42 PM
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2. u live up to your name
you do speak the truth:toast:
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:43 PM
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3. Is ranting a 1st amendement right?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:49 PM
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8. Once again - rant your heart out - I never said you can't - I'm just
amazed at how worked up people are getting about a movie. so much space on these boards is used to go on and on about a movie. ITS JUST A MOVIE!!!!
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:25 PM
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22. It is just a movie. And I am amazed, you are amazed some of us are
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 04:26 PM by Kerryfan
thinking Mel is just out to make money off the Crucifixion, as Andy Rooney said.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:46 PM
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5. Seeing this movie will financially benefit Mel Gibson
Stop the spread of conservatism and the corrupt DMCA by downloading it on Kazaa.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:47 PM
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6. Ex-actly
Hear, hear.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:49 PM
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9. Fuck The Passion
If you want to see it, see it. I think it's a steaming pile of bullshit and have the right to say that.
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:49 PM
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10. gotta let people vent
as odd as it is (to me anyway) to see such anti Mel fervor on these boards people have the right to go apeshit about it. I just dont undrstand why people feel so threatened by this film.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:49 PM
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11. the movie
is mainly just that:a movie. Be aware that it could become a distraction, if anyone is fooled into spending too much time debating it. Stick with the important issue: organizing the effort to remove bush from office in November.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:52 PM
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12. AND NOW I'M FOLLOWING MY OWN RANT BY...
not wasting anymore time on this bullshit! Keep debating "Crazy Mel" and his "Horrible Movie" - I'm going to posts where there's something of consequence to discuss!
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 06:30 PM
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26. Oh, I see.
Antisemitism is OK, we just can't criticize Mel Gibson. That would be wrong.
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A J Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:53 PM
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13. I am not going to see the movie.
Because I think it is going to be really terrible. I have read the reviews and I guess it is unnecessarily violent, inaccurate (biblically) and kind of boring.

If he made a good Jesus movie, I might have watched it. But I don't tune myself out to others' expression, I even watch those wackos at Fox every now and then (I am inspired by their ignorance.)
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:53 PM
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14.  I don't want to give that Australian Taliban one penny
but I don't give a hoot who else does. And don't forget to get your T-shirts and nail pendants at greedymel.com.

I am a Catholic, by the way.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:53 PM
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15. 1st ammenment means
I can accept his making the movie and he has to accept my pissing and moaning about it. I don't believe anyone is calling to have the movie silenced. I for one am not. I may worry about the repircussions of it but hey thats my freaking right.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:57 PM
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16. Yelling "FIRE" in a crowded cinema isn't kosher, yes?
That's an abridgement of my 1st Amendment "Right", yet I'm punished if I do it.

Damned nazis.

Look, I don't give a rat's ass about Mel, or his self masturbatory movie, but I do think he's a fruitloop...Oh and that America is just a moment away from playing out a real live showing of "A Handmaid's Tale" and crap like Mellie's is just a step away from the old, "THEY KILLED JESUS!!!", cry usually heard just prior to a pogrom.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:24 PM
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21. But!!!
You are free to yell "cinema" in a crowded fire! Context is everything. (Abbie Hoffman, circa 1982, a bar in upstate NY)
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:09 PM
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17. Someone hasn't grasped the meaning of the 1st amendment
It is not hypocrisy to voice your disagreement with Mel Gibson's movie. It is hypocrisy to tell me to stop voicing my disagreement with the movie because Mel Gibson has a right to his opinion.
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waterman Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:18 PM
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18. Yay! Good for you. Concise and direct. Nice!
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 06:28 PM
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25. I was speaking to the people in the media not you hyper-sensitive DUers
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 06:30 PM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
I'm talking about the fucks that say that this movie shouldn't be distributed. If you think I don't understand the 1st amendment I exercise it by saying - BITE ME!
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 06:42 PM
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27. I can only reply to what you post
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 06:43 PM by Alenne
Nothing in your original post mentioned people in the media or "the fucks that say that this movie shouldn't be distributed". If DUers were hyper sensitive it is only because you did not make yourself clear.

That "bite me" comment was really cute, in a I'm a 15 year old who just got spanked by DU members so I'm going to throw a tantrum, sort of way.



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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:20 PM
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19. He can make it, of course!
But I don't want to see it.

That's all.
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itcfish Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:23 PM
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20. Agree
Thank you. And what really should scare Americans is that he had to go and film it out of the country.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:27 PM
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23. CHOSE to film it it Italy....
nobody forced him, it was his decision to move the production. He could have made his movie here in the US with no problems, I suspect it was just cheaper to make in Italy and was closer to his church.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:33 PM
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24. Yes he can make it.
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 04:34 PM by ezmojason
If the corporate media use it to promote the growth of the radical religious right that wants
to destroy the secular constitution it is crap.

Triumph of the Will was a great movie also and it contributed to the consolidation of Nazi power.

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/ConstitutionRestorationAct.htm

“Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an element of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official personal capacity), by reason of that element’s or officer’s acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government.”
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