How much Islamophobia is there on DU?

[DuctapeFatwa]

[Forkboy]

1. I've seen some

but it's mostly confined to the same few people over and over.

[drdon326]

2. Oooo,Oooo...pick me, Monty

lol

[LearnedHand]

3. We do our best...

...to dispel, overcome, reason away the LIES presented to us by the White-House-owned media.

[JohnLocke]

4. Bullshit.

There is no "Islamophobia" on DU. It's a construct of some very imaginative people here that will find insult in anything.

Edit: Spelling.

[Lars39]

6. Is this a disagreement spilling over from another forum?

:shrug:

[drdon326]

Gee...cant fool you.

.

[Lars39]

10. I figured it was a little more polite than saying......

something a little more ascerbic. O8)

[DuctapeFatwa]

9. Not that I am aware of. I thought it would be interesting to see how

people perceive things. :)

[Lars39]

15. You are the epitome of politeness, DF.

I think you might be getting some interesting answers.:)

I briefly dipped into the I/P forum, but had to leave because I couldn't keep my eyebrows out of my hairline. ;)

[JohnLocke]

13. You guessed it!

Hey, I didn't start it.

[Forkboy]

34. Edit for spelling?

here's your original quote John.

There is no "Islamophobia" on DU. It's a construction of some very imaginative people here that will find insult in the most innocuous comment.

[JohnLocke]

35. That was my first edit.

I later went back and revised it, eliminating the last clause and replacing "construction" with "construct."

[Djinn]

42. see post 17

and then repeat that staement

[DrWeird]

5. Just a few whackos.

nt

[Cleita]

7. I'm not fond of any religion that puts women in a separate and

subordinate place, but that applies to all religions where I'm concerned including the one I was raised in, Catholicism. If women want to subject themselves to that then it is their choice as long as they are free to chose.

If the laws of a country enforce the code of the Islamic religion, then I am against it as much as I am against any laws in this country that enforce Christian codes. Did you know there are still places in America where you can't buy alcohol or dance on Sunday?

[JohnLocke]

14. I have no problem with Islam...

...I do have a problem with the Jew-hating, extremist, fundamentalist brand of Islam that purveys hate and terror.

[Jim Sagle]

18. What you said.

:yourock:

[JohnLocke]

19. "I'm with stupid," eh?

:yourock:

[Forkboy]

22. See,we can agree at times

:evilgrin:

[JohnLocke]

27. Hilarious.

Hey, we both hate Bush! :yourock:

[Forkboy]

33. Now that we really can agree on.

:)

[Djinn]

39. would you have a problem with this statement

"I have no problem with Judaism..."

...I do have a problem with the Islam-hating, extremist, fundamentalist brand of Judaism that purveys hate and terror.

coz personally I think that it goes without saying that progressives are usually against purveyors of hate and terror - why couldn't yuo just say "i have no problem with Islam" and leave it at that why add the other bit, do you think they are in the majority of Muslims? or that this is descriptive of muslims in general?

[Lefty48197]

8. You won't catch me riding any Israeli busses

or eating in any Isreali restaurants, or standing on any Israeli street corners or... or...
In fact, you won't catch me visiting the holiest Christian sites on the planet, because I'm too afraid of getting shot, kidnapped, or blown up. So, I guess I'm an Islamophobe.

[KG]

12. also, don't spend to much time in the gaza strip ...

i hear the IDF are excellent shots.

edit to add - and they don't care if a few westerners get catch a bullet.

[Scurrilous]

16. The settlers are good shots also...

...just ask the West Bank olive pickers.

[KG]

20. that's coz a turn in the IDF is compulsory.

but hey, just stay off of any land the settlers want to steal and you'll be a-o.k.

[JohnLocke]

21. What's wrong with compulsory military service?

[Forkboy]

37. When did you serve

or when will you?

[JohnLocke]

41. Wow...a pinnacle in irrelevance.

[Forkboy]

47. Not at all

I figured since you obviously think mandatory service is ok that you'd have served at some time yourself.It's easy to say it's ok when others are the one on the firing line.

Too bad you're lacking the courage to do what you think is ok for others to do for you.

[Djinn]

40. not for the settlers it isn't

most settlers are fundies (although an increasing number of new settlement ersidents are there for economic reasons) and they're excused from military service, it's what has annoyed many members of the IDF and lead to the inflation in the numbers of refuseniks - it's hard to stand around "defending" the very people who refuse to protect you

[Nay]

11. I voted that we're nicer about it...

as an atheist, I'm Islamophobic, as well as Christianophobic, and probably lots of other religio-phobics as well. Through the ages, most religions have been extremely repressive toward women, and only social progressiveness has dragged most religions into something approaching the present. Only parts of certain religions (some Buddhist stuff, Quakers, etc.) have ever been anywhere near progressive.

[Name removed]

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[Forkboy]

24. Charming

[Malikshah]

23. From another forum? Not enough?

Hmmm

Add to the poll, DF. Is there Islamophobia AND..
Ignorance of world issues.... IOW-- "the other forum" deals with issues that involve other religions than Islam (and I don't mean Judaism)

Folks need to get just a smidge more educated.

[Ksec]

26. Islam is OK as long

as its not producing crazies. I wonder about these folks who strap bombs on themselves and kill women and children for Allah. I understand these types are reading the Koran and doing what it tells them to do.

[Astarho]

30. I don't recall

anything in the Koran about telling people to strap bombs to themselves.

[Ksec]

32. It says to kill all the non believers doesnt it?

it says to give non believers a chance to convert to Islam and those that dont, kill them. I dont claim to be a religious scholar but I know what I read. If Im wrong Ill apologise.

[Djinn]

44. You might want to apologise

and wile you're at it have a look at what the Bible and Torah advocate as punishment for various trangressions.

Therein lies the problem with using 1000 + year old texts written by various authors over various years/decades to guide one's lifestyle

[corporatewhore]

36. Christainty is OK as long

as its not producing crazies. I wonder about these folks who bomb abortion clinics on and kill women and doctors for for God. I understand these types are reading the Bible and doing what it tells them to do.
Check out God's Army and the KKK for some fine Christian orgs every religon attract crazies

[Ksec]

45. OK I get it. You guys are just trollin for ignorant people

to feign indignation over. Instead of answering my question you play games. Fine. Not a problem . Carry on gentlemen.

[Djinn]

46. what was your question

coz I thought it was answered.

You said that "i know what I read" in relation to the Koran apparently authorising the killing of non beleivers, can I ask where you read it? and why you would automatically beleive everything you read?

[Forkboy]

48. I'd say he found one

[DuctapeFatwa]

28. It's pretty impressive to see peoples' explanations for their views

When they cite pre-Islamic customs and use the same arguments against them that Mohammed did, it's hard not to smile.

Anybody can study different religions and discuss them, but to be able to hold forth on religions whose teachings you don't know takes creativity and chutzpah!

Note for those who need a note: DU is not the only place where this highly amusing phenomenon can be observed.

[dweller]

25. about the same as mainstream

with the usual amount of denials and feigned shock and awe at being misunderstood.
:eyes:
dp

[Muddleoftheroad]

29. About the same

One of the most alarming trends is the eagerness to rationalize anything done to Muslims -- even France's horrific actions against them.

[corporatewhore]

31. "youmean all them terrorists who do nothing but sit around in their caves

all day and plot how they are going to dominate their women and attack america and/or israel and it aint just a fundmentalist minority all of them are like it" i have run few posts like that

[buddhamama]

38. an alarming amount for a progressive community

n/t

[durutti]

43. Significantly less than in the general population.

But still too much for a "progressive" community.

[Moderator]

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