Marc Racicot said * volunteered to go to Vietnam this am on NPR!

[Timefortruth]

Man these guys know how to lie. I guess they figure that a big lie is as easy to pull off as a small one, so why not?

[papau]

1. Same fellow who said * was there but dates wrong said volunteer

but turned down

yeh

if you believe first lie you believe second

and don't expect media to point out that it is a NEW BS claim with no paperwork to support it!

[prolesunited]

2. Does somebody have the graphic file

of his paperwork that specifically has the box checked NOT to send him to Vietnam?

I'm sure I wasn't hallucinating that. Could someone re-post that so we have the ammunition to fight yet another lie.

[madrchsod]

13. don`t have the link but you are

not hallucinating- he checked the box ....

[ma4t]

28. no, no one has an image

because the "box to check" didn't exist

[Sophree]

35. bullshit

Symbolman has it. I'm searching right now.

[symbolman]

41. Sorry to post twice, should have posted this upthread

see post 40 below --



HIS OWN RECORDS from USA TODAY :)

[Tennessee Gal]

3. What complete BS!!!!

I read somewhere that * checked a spot on his application that he did not wish to go overseas. Wish I had saved that link!

Anybody have it?

[madmax]

6. It's in one of the many, many books I have on shrub

I'll look for it but, I'm sure someone has a link to it from Bartcop or somewhere.

[madmax]

4. This one is easily disproved

He clearly marked the box 'do not volunteer for VietNam'.

[meegbear]

5. There could be a grain of truth in there ...

remember that he was in Texas and as Delay said, when Delay went to sign up, the rosters were already filled by blacks.

Hey it MUST be true :crazy:

[Bandit]

27. That's right Black Pilots were just everywhere in Vietnam

Not.

[Cocoa]

29. Delay's excuse is my favorite

other chickenhawks have boring ones like "I had other priorities," but Delay is quite creative with his affirmative action thing.

[Brian Sweat]

31. Damn those blacks! Taking all the prime bullet catching slots.

[Bonhomme Richard]

7. An ex Air Force friend of mine is crazy mad about "*"

AWOL business. He said that there isn't a guy in the military he doesn't remember who he served with and most military guys would say the same thing. He was also saying, he is a pilot, that physicals, dental appointments and things like that are not optional. He said that they'll say your physical is tomorrow at 0800, end of story.
One other thing, if shrub had put in his time he definitely would have made captain.

[madrchsod]

14. i remember just about every detail

of my journeys into the induction center in Chicago and that was in 1969. he knows where the hell he was he just can`t admit to being a coward

[liberalnurse]

8. To no surprise, many republicans

will believe it!!!!!


I'm shaking my head in awh....the power of denial.

[Ediacara]

9. I used to respect Racicot when he was the mild-mannered governor of MT

Now he's a snake and a liar.

[Odallas]

12. Microscopic Images

What are they, DinoBoy?

[myccrider]

15. "Microscopic Images"

They look like micrographs of rocks/minerals to me. That's where you slice a rock real thin and mount it, shine normal and polarized light through it, to see what crystals it is made of.

HTH

[Odallas]

16. The Art Of Nature

Thanks

[Warren Stuart]

20. Me thinks it's Plagioclase Feldspar

It has been a while since I took Petrology

[newyawker99]

37. Hi myccrider!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[LiviaOlivia]

39. Who could forget then Gov. Racicot hysterical rant

about how Clinton was responsible for the Western forest fires.

http://www.wildrockiesalliance.org/issues/wildfire/bozeman_ed.html

[Az]

10. Here's how the lie works

Bush signs up for military duty. That is he volunteers his name into the service. Daddy pulls some strings and gets him assigned to the guard in the champaigne division. Thus baby bush gets to say he volunteered and yet at no time was ever in any danger of having to do any work.

[sendero]

11. That wasn't...

... the only blatant lie this guy told. And as usual, the lapdog NPR "reporter" didn't so much as blink.

If you send money to NPR you might as well just send it to Rush Limbaugh.

[JohnyCanuck]

17. Bush did volunteer for an assignment that could have meant Viet Nam

However he knew chances he would be picked to go were slim and none.

Furthermore, when he signed up for the Guard, he checked a box saying "Do not volunteer for overseas service." Later, he made a perfunctory application to transfer to a program called "Palace Alert", which dispatched F-102 pilots to Europe or the Far East -- and just occasionally Vietnam -- for 3 or 6 month assignments. But Bush was not nearly qualified, as he must have known, and was immediately turned down, and the F-102 not used overseas after June, 1970 in any case. And, as noted above, his story also changed on why he refused to take a medical exam -- including a drug test - in 1972. (The refusal ended Bush's flying career.) His staff first claimed that he didn't take the physical because he was in Alabama and his personal physician was in Houston. But flight physicals can be administered only by certified Air Force flight surgeons, and there were surgeons assigned at the time to Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, where Bush was living. His staff now admits that that explanation was "wrong", without saying where it came from or what the real reason was. Draft & National Guard Sources


http://noni.freeyellow.com/

I think this is what the rethugs are using to say that Bush volunteered for Viet Nam

[yellowcanine]

21. I thought he only "inquired" about the Palace Alert Program

My understanding was Bush only inquired about this program and the person he talked to about it convinced him that he wasn't qualified for it so he did not follow up. This is all kind of meaningless anyway. it is clear that the young Bush was in his playboy mode and that means he was just experimenting with different ideas. He signed up for the TANG saying he wanted to make a career of flying planes but when it came time to make the committment to training to fly a more modern plane he opted out - so his "priorities had changed" I guess you could say. I don't think there is much point in the Dems making an issue out of this unless Bush chooses to go after Kerry's service and later protest of the war. Then his service should be mentioned in the context of Kerry's service and let the voters decide who served their country more honorably. However if Pubs are going to lie about it the lies should be corrected.

[WoodrowFan]

18. HE DID TOO!

Of course bush was so stupid he thought "Vietnam" was a whorehouse in Ciudad Jaurez...

[ElsewheresDaughter]

19. "Racicot " proper pronunciation Rat-shit

[ProfessorGAC]

22. Incorrect, E/D!!!

The proper pronunciation, phonetically, is LIE - ER, with accent on the first syllable.

The alternate pronciation is ID - EE - IT. First syllable accent.
The Professor

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. LMAO ....thanks professor!

[BiggJawn]

24. He "volunteered", but they didn't need any F-102 Jocks...

But of course, he knew that. If there had been any ANG units still flying the WWII-vintage P-51, he would have gone there instead. Perfect way to stay out of the "action", get trained in an obsolete aircraft....

[Unknown Known]

25. Racicot is a piece of shit

This is the guy that lied about the "stolen" military votes in 2000.

[tom_paine]

26. Racicot is a disgusting odious liar

Like Eichmann, though, he is very charming in person...

(to be fair Racicot hasn't had anyone killed yet, so far as I know, though one wonders who Uncle Karl used to tip off the Colombians or whoever else whacked Wellstone)

[qb]

30. I assumed he was referring to the form that W signed

assigning him to that fake unit in Colorado as punishment for going AWOL. People in the fake unit could be called up to go to Viet Nam (of course George H.W. Bush's son would never ever be called up no matter what).

Sorry I don't have a link, but I have seen the form with his signature online.

[Mountainman]

32. This may mean nothing, F-102s were pulled from Vietnam before Bush was

trained to fly them. They are interceptors and since there were no enemy bombers to intercept they were withdrawn from Vietnam before Bush went into the Guard.

If he were to have gone to Vietnam he would have had to been trained on another plane or do something other than fly. Also he lost his flight status.

I think that even if he did volunteer for Vietnam, there wasn't a snow ball's chance in hell that he would have had to go.

[proud patriot]

33. Liar liar pants on fire

x(

[grasswire]

34. see my..

...Racicot chickenhawk thread for his OWN scandalous story. He apparently never registered for the selective service.

[Sgt. Peppers]

36. lier, lier, paints on fire.

No morals for the republican right.

[newyawker99]

38. Hi Sgt. Peppers!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[symbolman]

40. BULLSHIT

Here's his application where he checked NO to Overseas Duty..



It's verifiable and straight from the USA TODAY link. His OWN RECORDS.

Pass it around.

[Timefortruth]

42. Do you have a link?

I'd like to pass it along to the "reporter" at NPR who let the Bush for President campaign commercial run unquestioned today. I think it was Juan Williams, what a surprise that Mr. Faux himself would act like he is on TV on the radio.

[symbolman]

43. Sure

go to this link and right click to save all the files and peruse them at leisure --

http://www.usatoday.com/news/2004-02-14-bush-docs.htm

Hope this helps.