They're using four-letter words to describe him."

[CatWoman]

and what, pray tell, would that 4 letter word be?

Dick?

Fake?

Jerk?

Liar?

Toad?

Oh, the possibilities!!!



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=5&u=/ap/20040222/ap_on_el_pr/angry_at_bush

[ThomWV]

1. Who?

And who, pray tell, would that be? Bush? Nader? Sadam? I see each of them in about the same light.

[CatWoman]

3. Bush

Subject of linked article: Survey: Anger Toward Bush Intensifying

[mobuto]

4. Bush

According to that article.



I've never seen a Democratic Party more unified and more focused, and the anger helps do just that," said GOP pollster Frank Luntz. "The intensity level is just so high. They're using four-letter words to describe him."

In a recent focus group that Luntz conducted for MSNBC, technicians had to adjust the volume levels because the Bush-haters were "so gosh-darn loud" they were drowning out the president's supporters, who were more numerous, Luntz said. "It was a real problem."

[diplomats]

14. I love it

Luntz tries to give the impression Bush-haters are just louder than the Bush supporters, who are "more numerous." Right. :eyes:

At least he admits the Dem Party is super focused. That's saying a lot, because he's a GOP pollster and Bush apologist extraordinaire.

[Dover]

38. *

eom

[Cat Atomic]

49. So Luntz admits that

MSNBC turned the volume down on Bush critics because MSNBC didn't like the image it projected? Damn liberal media!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. Asss

(Mark Twain never liked anyone who couldn't spell a word more than one way)

[Seldona]

5. Get that article rated to a 5 please.

Lets keep that puppy on the front page.

Notice how clueless his campaign spokesman, Terry Holt, is?

Like he had to rub it in that he is 'winning'.

Man oh man, these people are really falling apart at the seams.

WONDERFUL!

[peacetalksforall]

6. divi der

nati on spli tter

miho per

[symbolman]

7. Fuckhead

is not a four letter word :)

[CatWoman]

8. lol

maybe if we hypenate it? :D

four words each.

[ThomWV]

11. I Prefer

I think "Fuckwad" had a nicer ring to it.

[kitkatrose]

37. Someone on here coined the term "fucktard" to describe him.

That just sums it up right nice, don't you think? O8)

[americanstranger]

18. And 'asshat' is SIX letters!

Hey, Luntz - we're using all kinds of 'lettered words' to describe your boy.

And in November, we'll be using a five-letter word - 'loser.'

-as

[justjones]

27. Fuckface. n/t

[twistedliberal]

9. crap

"John McAdams, a political scientist at Marquette University, said resentment of Bush is particularly strong among liberals who already hold three things against him: 'First, he's a conservative. Second, he's a Christian. And third, he's a Texan. When you add all of those things up, that invokes pretty much every symbol of the cultural wars.' "


Ugh. Yeah, we hate him because he's a Christian. And from Texas. Pretty much sums it up, right?

Never mind that he's a lying, chickenhawk warmongering asshole who uses his "Christian"-ness to preach hatred towards anything non-hetero or non-Christian, destroy necessary social programs, fuck up the schools, destroy the Bill of Rights, fuck the working class, capitalize on the threat of terror, destroy the environment and make the filthy rich even filthier rich.

But never mind all that. We liberals just don't like him because he's a Christian, right?

[CatWoman]

10. a sample of posters reactions on the Yahoo boards

Just look at the Yahoo posts
by: head7288 02/22/04 02:07 pm
Msg: 9 of 191
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to know that there is a seething anger over this President. Perhaps a lot of the same people (like me) voice their opinion too often, but this is a forum to vent without being singled out. I'd say that the posters who are disgusted with Bush far outnumber his supporters.

Then again, when you really analyze it, how can you support this guy?


Why do they hate him?
by: gorky15 (M/Los Angeles, Ca) 02/22/04 01:58 pm
Msg: 4 of 191
17 recommendations

Cause he is a lying fool with blood on his hands.


Lying, troop-murdering, election thief
by: dickchainee 02/22/04 02:02 pm
Msg: 7 of 191
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"Why do they hate him?"

Here's a clue for the "experts."


conservative Christian Texan?
by: [e-mail] 02/22/04 02:12 pm
Msg: 14 of 192
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No, I hate Bush cuz he's a lying, thieving coward. With his polls low and his dog dead,
expect a "Checkers" speech to try to get sympathy. (For you younger people, Google Nixon & Checkers)

[twistedliberal]

26. Hee hee...

Someone posted as "SpongeBushWetPants."

:D

[peekaloo]

36. LOL....a "Checkers" speech

:D

[boobooday]

47. I agree with those who said

Bush IS a four-letter word.

How could any breathing, thinking person not hate this SOB?

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[Lars39]

15. It is entirely possible to be totally surrounded by people

who call themselves christian, but are anything but christian. Seems unbelievable to those that live in more diverse areas, but in many places the only exposure to christianity some people have, is to the fundamentalist variety.

[twistedliberal]

24. I am an atheist in an area with very little diversity.

So I definitely see what you're saying. But as a liberal I just lose it when I read things like that McAdams quote. It just spreads the dittohead myth that liberals don't like Christians.

[Lars39]

28. I know what you mean.

There ought to be a new name: Bushtians, to cut down on the confusian and slurs. :)

[DoYouEverWonder]

40. I know a lot of liberals who are christian

and I know a lot of very nice people from Texas. That is not the problem. George Bu$h is the problem.

Bu$hCo likes to accuse dems of being angry and irrational. When in reality it is George Bu$h who is the master of hate politics. That's how you can tell he's not a real Christian. Some one who is so filled with hate couldn't possible have anything to do with what christ is all about.




IMHO, anyone who thinks Bu$h is a christian is being deceived.

[Timefortruth]

42. And just what President wasn't Christian?

Made up crap.

The reason I despise Chimp is because he hasn't the faintest idea what a Christian is, not because he is one.

[calimary]

58. Anybody got an email address for McAdams?

THIS Roman Catholic would LOVE to explain to him why the reason I hate bush has NOTHING to do with his "Christianity." Note, I put that in quotes. Because bush's behavior and deeds mark him as anything BUT a Christian. He does make a very good Pharisee, though!

[citizen snips]

12. fuck.

Is that one of the four lettered words?

[CatWoman]

21. congrats

I see your'e almost in the four digit club

:hi:

[citizen snips]

31. Thanks CatWoman!

I am almost there!:bounce:

[jbm]

13. what's your opinion on this paragraph?

<snip>"Anger is not necessarily a productive emotion when it comes to politics," Luntz said. "The anger against Bill Clinton (news - web sites) was so fierce and over the top that it helped him in 1996 and then again during the impeachment in 1998. People got more angry at those yelling at the president than at the president himself. You could easily see the same thing happening here."

<snip>

My take is that it doesn't apply this time around. I think people defended Bill Clinton because they sensed that the right was out of control and their actions unjustified,but the anger directed at the Bush administration is well-deserved.

[anti-NAFTA]

16. And the anger against Clinton manifested itself

in desperate smearing. Who cares if Clinton liked to get blown? The anger against Bush is based on concrete political issues.

[diplomats]

20. I completely agree

There's no Arkansas Project (or Texas Project, as it were) to destroy Bush. He's managed to turn millions against him while his party controlled the WH, both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court, talk radio and much of the mainstream media.

[diplomats]

19. And Bush is not being targeted by a politically motivated

special prosecutor. That's a big difference. As a GOP pollster, Luntz is just twisting himself in knots looking for a silver lining that isn't there. This anger is nothing but good for us because it energizes our party, which could influence turnout. Remember 1994? The Repukes came out to vote, we didn't, and we got hammered. Hopefully, 2004 can be 1994 all over again, with us being the beneficiaries.

[CatWoman]

23. agreed

Republican anger had nothing to do with Clinton's lack of competence.

Clinton was their obssession -- their hangup.

Bush* is just plain lazy, dangerous, incompetent, stupid........

I could go on and on.

No one died when BC lied.

[OKNancy]

32. My opinion is that Luntz is a Republican

mouthpiece and he will say anything and do anything to twist the facts in his favor.

[dennis4868]

52. My take is.....

that the anger against was mostly from the republican establishment, not from the people in this country. Therefore, the republican estanlishment looked silly and paid for it in the next election. However, this time around it is the opposite. The anger at Bush is not from the Democratic party establishment in Washington, but from the people all over the country. BIG DIFFERENCE!

[woofless]

56. That was my take.

Thank you for saving me the trouble of posting it. You were more eloquent anyway. The two situations are not at all the same. The "Clinton Anger" was largely manufactured stuff. We are really angry at shrubby for very good and verifiable reasons.

[wellstone_democrat]

17. Rate it 5?

I have my doubts given its slant---
opposition is due to the fact he is "conservative, Christian, and Texan?

Frankly, I'm Texan and Christian and those classifications form part of the basis for why I find him so disgusting. He lies, he's a Texan of Convenience (let's see where he lives when he leaves office shall we...?), and he might be the worst "Christian" of any sort I've ever seen.

But, the article goes to great pains to document the anger and then provide "experts" who warn us that we'll be seen as extreme (as if there are no real complaints), hint that we should be seen that way, and smear all opposition as anti-Christian and anti-Texan. Basically, its the "elite northeastern intellectual" that St. Ralph Nader also alluded to this morning on MTP. Coincidence? Nah, this is the extention of the oldest meme going.

I just don't think that this article does anything but extend that "Dean scream" (i.e., opponents are irrational when they aren't bad elitists!) narrative they have going.

Mr. W_D

[twistedliberal]

30. I agree completely

I don't care where he's from or what he believes.

He's a bigoted, lying, warmongering asshole. To me, that has nothing to do with his being a Christian, or being "from" Texas.

But he invokes his religion at every chance, using it as a poor excuse to be a bigoted warmongering asshole.

And that part of the article labels liberals as being anti-Christian.

[proud patriot]

22. I see your four letter word and raise you a seven letter word

Usurper :D

[Art_from_Ark]

50. And I'll call the bid

E-Q-U-I-V-O-C-A-T-O-R

[Buns_of_Fire]

25. Rover has his work cut out for him

But how do you put a "kinder, gentler" face on a steaming pile of shit?

There you go -- "shit" -- another four-letter word to add! (With any luck, "Bush" will be a four-letter political obscenity before too long...)

[brainwashed_youth]

29. donkey raping shit eater

you can thank southpark for that one

[Ksec]

33. mouth breathing knuckle dragger,

sums it up for me :)

[Sophree]

34. Twit

Turd

Pile (o' s*it)

[Nlighten1]

35. Nazi?

[Dover]

39. B-U-S-H..........now THERE'S a dirty, filthy four letter word

eom

[Timefortruth]

41. My favorite part, is the Republican concern

"Anger is not necessarily a productive emotion when it comes to politics," Luntz said. "The anger against Bill Clinton (news - web sites) was so fierce and over the top that it helped him in 1996 and then again during the impeachment in 1998. People got more angry at those yelling at the president than at the president himself. You could easily see the same thing happening here."

Yeah, except that with Clinton the people who thought the rights's reaction was over the top were blessed with the common sense to know that a blow-job, even one lied about under oath, was not worthy of impeachment. Where here, when the Democrats yell it's about treason, life, the environment, the US place in the world....not contrived nonsense. If I were Luntz I'd be scared that the folks who aren't angry don't find out why the rest of us are so mad.

[ComerPerro]

43. Last time I checked

"Fucking" and "asshole" both had seven letters.

[opihimoimoi]

44. That man is the supreme LOLO

Hawaiian for a person who is so ignorant, he don't even know he is ignorant. In American slang, its NUTS

[TankLV]

45. Idiot Son of an Asshole - works for me!

Heard it in a great song not too long ago.

That way I get all of 'em - King George I, Queen Babs & their idiot son!

[TacticalPeek]

46. "drowning out the president's supporters, who were more numerous"

More numerous?

Why am I not surprised that Luntz packs his 'focus' groups, aka 'peasants under glass'???

So much for any value that MSNBC reports on alledged focus group 'data' might have had.

Luntz needs to have more than just his 'gosh-darn' volume adjusted.

Anyway, these group 'studies' are easy enough to manipulate even without stacking the numeric deck. Luntz, R-LaLaLand, must be getting lazy.

[mike1963]

48. I have a 12 letter word for him...

:evilgrin:

[GiovanniC]

51. List of four-letter words describing *

Dumb
Evil
Jerk
Puke
Liar

and worst of all...

Bush.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

53. Nazi.

[alittlelark]

55. I like yours even better than mine

which is TURD. I've got kids, so I have to watch the language. It sounds like toad - which also fits him (no insult to amphibians).

[Brian Sweat]

54. AWOL

Yep. Four Letters.

[Deja Q]

57. You are such a word tease!

And although "toad" is a 4 letter word, it really isn't THAT type of 4 letter word! :P :D