Terry McAullif actually stood up to Wolf

[Atman]

First thing I've seen him do lately that I like. Wolfie was just relentless, trying twenty different ways to get McA to back down on the AWOL claim...but McAullif would have not of it. "Those are very serious charges you're leveling" said Wolf. "You're darn right they are! And the American people deserve to know about the character of their president." "But AWOL? Despite the fact that Bush was granted an honorable discharge?" Wolfie whined. "A lot of people did. So what...his father was a congressman. How do we tell American men and women to join the guard and get shipped off to fight, when Bush can just walk away and say he'll make up the time later? Can you imagine what would happen if all those guardsmen over there now just had said "I'll make up my time later?" It goes to the character and credibility of the president."

For once, I didn't cringe when he spoke!

[BootinUp]

1. Fox two!

Thats what the fighter pilot says when launches a heatseaker ;)

[TacticalPeek]

19. What does a quitter pilot say???

:silly:

[BootinUp]

24. Mayday!

[zbdent]

25. "Daddy, bail me out!"

"PLEEEEEEEEEEEEAZE!"

[barbaraann]

2. Wow!

And has Wolfie EVER questioned ONE talking point of the GOP?

I don't have cable now but it sounds to me like the very best part of this might be that it exposes CNN's pro-GOP bias.

[neverforget]

3. I wanted to punch Wolfie for his defense of the Bush boy.

This is how he defended Bush with his questions "but they released all of his records and they show he was there!" Uh no they don't. "they have 2 witnesses that say he was there." And there are 10 other witnesses who said he wasn't.

I want to email Wolf and ask him "why hasn't Bush produced anybody that served with him in the SAME squadron? You know, a fellow pilot of the same rank? Somebody who was there would surely remember him, wouldn't they? A dental document doesn't prove that he was there for the 8 months in question. For example, I have a dental appointment today but that doesn't prove I was in this city or state for 8 months now does it?"

[Richardo]

5. He only has to produce *one* piece of paper...his DD-214.

Just one.

We're waiting, "Lieutenant".

That's what I tell anyone who's somehow impressed by the 400+ page garbage dump we got last Friday afternoon.

[lovedems]

11. What exactly is a DD-214?

Sorry, kind of uninformed on military paperwork. What is it and what would it prove? Details! Can it be questioned? Can it be fabricated?

[Nlighten1]

13. It is a formal copy of your discharge papers.

Every vet gets them and it lays out your entire service record.

[Richardo]

20. Looks like this...

http://www.orps.state.ny.us/assessor/manuals/vol4/part1/section4.01/dd214.pdf

Also shows any disciplinary actions etc, if I'm not mistaken (not a vet)

[lovedems]

23. Ahhh! Now I see

and somehow that little bit of info. appears to be MIA. Very interesting.

This administration is just so obvious these days in their cover-ups. They cover up everything, AWOL, the energy task force (which by the way, I heard on the radio today the administration is touting the the new GDP numbers and someone said if you take out the price gouging by the energy industry, the GDP didn't grow at all) the pre-war intelligence, the 9-11 commission, the hacking, the medicare investigation, should I go on?

Wake up people!

[Brian Sweat]

26. It would be highly unusual that Bush would not e able to produce

this document. The military keeps them on file and a former military personnel can request a copy decades after they have left the service. We have several Vietnam era vets on DU who have stated that they had recently obtained a copy of their DD214. If the military cannot produce a copy of Bush's DD214, it is extremely doubtful that this is an accident.

[cosmicdot]

4. I hope this style catches on big time

It's a weapon the Democrats need to go with: stand up to the media, call them on their crapola ... take control of the message, and reveal the Media for the lying, misleading, misinforming, under-informing, distracts anytime ... which a lot of people will identify with ... put the Media on the defensive ... in all its corporate glory ...

[Skidmore]

6. You're right.

A few of them need to take lessons from Lou Dobbs on how to confront issues in the economy with these right wing medial shills.

[BootinUp]

8. Not that I want to hi-jack this

thread, but you're right Dobbs is pretty tough. He pretty well neutralized a fellow from FAIR the other night Peter Hart.

[Marlie]

9. I agree Skidmore

Did you see Lou Dobbs last night? He held that phoney David Dyer's
feet to the fire big time. It's about time they start questioning
the republican's talking points which are normally bull crap not fact.
Wolf on the other hand is simply a lost cause.

[barbaraann]

7. You are SO right. That is the magic formula.

Maybe Terry has decided that the AWOL issue is the issue that can best expose Bush AND the media. If we hit the American people with the whole truth at one time it would just be too much. The depth and breadth of the corruption and deception in our media and politics is beyond mind-boggling.

[lovedems]

15. Yes, this issue has the administration on the defensive

the last place you want to be in an election year. If they can use this issue to go after his credibility then suddenly all of his actions over the last 3 years become subject to scrutiny and can be presented as "nothing this administration has done is credible" you can use that argument for pre-war intelligence, 9-11 evidence, the tax cuts which bu$h swore would not take us into deficit spending. etc.

Suddenly his entire administration becomes the subject of scrutiny, they are put on the defensive and have to spend their time answering questions rather than framing the debate and asking the questions. It is a good start and I think Terry knows what he is doing here. He is defining the pResident before the pResident gets to define the dem. nominee.

[barbaraann]

22. The GOP has "framed the debate" for decades. I hope

that NOW the Dems will take the initiative. It's funny but it seems that all you have to do to win in politics is to frame the debate instead of winning it. Weird, eh?

[Tactical Progressive]

16. Yes, and the more that Dems refuse to cowtow to CNN

pro-Republican spin, the more it paints the Conservative News Network and the rest of the corporate cable-whores as the right wing excusers and defenders and whitewashers and promoters that they truly are.

I haven't seen this particular interview, but I know how tenatiously Wolf defends right-wing talking points.

People will catch on if strong Democrats keep at these media propagandists. Political viewers are finally waking up to the media as the corporate establishment that they are, not the dispassionate arbiters of political debate that they pretend to be.

[neverforget]

10. My email to Wolf:

I just watched your interview with Terry MacAuliffe and the way you defended Bush was remarkable. I guess if anybody ever questions my character or whereabouts for 8 months in the future, I'll just point to today February 20, 2004. Why? Because I have a dental appointment today and this will be the ONLY evidence that I will release to prove I was in Portland, Oregon for 8 months. Todays "journalists" should be renamed "suckers" for buying everything the Bush Administration says without doing any followup.

[grasswire]

12. Dems should start turning it around on Wolf

Go after him. Mock him. Say something like "Are you really this gullible? You believed there were WMD and you believe this, too?!"

[e-mail]

Hammer him.

[Tactical Progressive]

18. That is very good.

Treat them like the propagandists that they are.

[Kazak]

14. Whoo!!

Excellent!

[liberalnurse]

17. Now, if he had only stood-up

to *bush for the past 3 years........Wolf is benign.

[havocmom]

21. Maybe Terry McA has been noticing what resonates with grassroots Dems

And maybe he has been reading what folks have to say in places like the DU?

What's the old saw? "If the people will lead, the leaders will follow?"

Not crazy with the Dem 'leadership' in recent years, but have to give soem credit for learning. Give them 'atta-boy' attention when they do the right thing. Keep them heading in the right direction, but let them know we are watching them like hawks. ;-)

[kaitykaity]

27. The reThugs bit off their own nose to spite their face

with Terry Mac.

Big donors used to give both parties nearly equally, but since the Bush criminals stole power, they have used threats etc., to threaten these donors into not giving to the Democratic Party. Now, Terry Mac has nothing to lose by taking on Bush directly.

Ah, the law of unintended consequences. :evilgrin: