this sergeant REALLY needs to watch his back

[homelandpunk]

http://www.mediawhoresonline.com/
On CNN
Judy Woodruff: ....a story by Anthony Shadid (ph). He's in Baghdad. He is quoting a 43-year-old U.S. Army reservist, Staff Sergeant Charles Pollard, a man on duty at a little police station in a suburb of Baghdad. And here's what Sergeant Pollard had to say.

He said, "U.S. officials need to get our out of here. We have no business being here. We will not change the culture they have in Iraq. Baghdad is so corrupted. All we are here is potential people to be killed and sitting ducks."

ADELMAN: He should be former Sergeant Pollard, to tell you the truth. People in uniform should not be talking that way.

ADELMAN: He shouldn't be mouthing off like that.

ADELMAN: Last word, this guy should be a former sergeant.

ADELMAN: I mean, I don't think people in uniform...

ADELMAN: People in uniform should not be talking like that.

ADELMAN: I am not -- all right, people in uniform shouldn't be talking like that.

Adelman wants this guy dead. Which means Bush will want this guy dead. And lucky them. He's in Iraq.
I hope this man makes it out alive. But he now has more than a random bullet to worry about.
If word got to me that Adelman was issuing cloaked threats at me while I sat in bumfuck Baghdad, I would find the nearest British unit and ask for political asylum. I mean if he wants to see his family again.

[HawkerHurricane]

1. Adelman sure talks a lot

For some guy 10,000 miles away from the front.

Hey, Adelman, does the Sargent, who defends* your right to free speech not deserve any of his own? Or should he just obey orders and say just what he's told, like you?








*no desire to start any arguement about whether or not soldiers defend free speech, just using typical freeper style arguements against a freeper.

[Cronus Protagonist]

2. Maybe he's hoping to get fired

I would do that myself. I would also do a "work to rule" and only comply with the minimum required, and do everything that didn't endanger lives very badly. My paperwork would be illegible, my dress would be sloppy, I would be late to post, etc. Eventually, they would kick me out. He probably just wants to come home. I don't blame him for it.



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[Pepperbelly]

3. Adelman is another chickenhawk punk ...

Screw him. Who cares what he thinks anymore?

[Sagan]

4. who is this Adelman guy anyway?

And anyone got an email addy for him?

[Pepperbelly]

5. he was one of Ronnie's arms control guys ..

and a constant cheerleader for invading Iraq from 9/11 on. He never served anything but his own interests ... it disgusts me the way these fragile old cowards thirst for the blood of our children.

[Dudley_DUright]

6. You could try this "publication"

http://www.washingtonian.com/about/Staff/Ken_Adelman.html

[Tinoire]

11. Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle

Kenneth Adelman - aka the man who said Iraq would be a "cakewalk"

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/26/column.novak.opinion.cakewalk/

Assistant to U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld from 1975 to 1977 & a U.N. ambassador and Director of Arms Control under Reagan.

One of many Pentagon Advisors, Adelman also sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist advisor, who totally supports the war against Iraq.

[fshrink]

7. Yeah! "He shouldn't be mouthing off like that"

This guy is an hologram.

[bobthedrummer]

8. Sgt. Pollard, like most NCO's said exactly the right thing

I know an active duty NCO that told a 2-Star in Afghanistan that he would not obey an order because of the risk it put the troops under, even when the 2-star repeated it and then threatened arrest.

That order was not followed and that NCO was not arrested.

Most NCO's will not obey any order to fire on American citizens in America either, unless they would be under immediate risk or fire.

These NCO's are very professional, very sharp-they know an illegal/unwarranted/insane order when they hear it and they stand tall when it comes to minimizing risk to troops, NCO's are the best part of our military in my civilian opinion--it's the brass, especially USAF that are dangerously unstable because of the BFEE coup thing.

It is the minority of NCO's that are over the top that must watch their backs. They don't last long.

This citizen supports our troops that were illegally ordered into this hell, yes, Sgt. Pollard get back soon.

We're gonna need you here sooner rather than later.

Then there's the spooks...Rumsfeld...that's the worst part, the very worst part, they are a treacherous homicidal cult of death, enabled by citizens like Adelman and his ilk.

[Jack Rabbit]

9. Adelman shouldn't be saying anothing

Unless it's "I'm sorry, your honor."

[Eloriel]

10. I thought it was extremely poor form for Woodruff to name him

Most people (with any sense) know that military aren't really supposed to be saying stuff like that, least of all to reporters. I don't agree with this "rule," but it's my understanding that it is a rule.

She was wrong to out him on TV.

Eloriel

[bobthedrummer]

13. Sgt. Pollard was vocalizing what the prevalent view is now in this FUBAR

"liberation" IMO, as well as defending the Constitution Eloriel.

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[bluestateguy]

14. Grrr!!!

I seem to remember that whenever a soldier bashed Bill Clinton between 1993-2001 he would be hailed by conservatives as a great patriot and an American hero. That general who called Clinton a skirt chaser; Michael New, who refused to wear a UN patch on his uniform; or the officers fostering a climate at military instillations where trash talking of the commander in chief was condoned and encouraged. Who is this Ken Adelman fellow to make military policy? What medals has he won? What war has he fought in? What office was he elected to? Maybe he should keep his cakehole shut. This is just another example of how Republicans believe that the military is their personal property.

[dfong63]

15. adelman should be a FORMER consultant/commentator

... after insulting our troops that way.