Did anyone watch Lou Dobbs tonight?

[wtf]

DOBBS: ....We are right now running a half trillion dollar trade deficit.

DREIER: And you see that as a huge negative...

Proof that you can't make this sh*t up: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0402/19/ldt.00.html

When I see things like this, is really gives me hope about our chances in 04, "October surprise" or not. The repubs can only continue claiming 2 + 2 = 5 for so long before they collapse under the weight of their own insanity.

I really can't believe that quote though...

[david_vincent]

1. It's not the Republicans who are going to collapse,

it's the economy.

[fizzana]

2. Dobbs has been pretty decent lately,

particularly about exporting jobs.

[Newsjock]

3. A stunning exchange

Caught it on the repeat. The transcript doesn't do justice to the intensity of the exchange. I was sitting here open-mouthed, wondering for just how much longer Lou's going to be allowed to continue his crusade.

When Lou Dobbs is a crusader for the truth and Pat Buchanan is starting to make sense, I know we've crossed over into Bizarro World.

[countmyvote4real]

10. Yikes. But you're right about that.

We are living in an episode of Ghe Twilight Zone.

[JNelson6563]

14. Scary isn't it?

I've been shocked to find myself enjoying Dobbs and agreeing with Buchanan. It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world!

Julie

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. Think about this for a second...CNN has a major corporate owner...

...this may be a signal that the major corps are writing Junior off.

Junior has failed to supply everything that the corps wanted (only 1/3 of the tax cuts, etc.), plus he has gotten us into a war that appears to have no end in sight and is resulting in profits for only a select few pet corporations.

The corps aren't happy, and Dobbs is letting everyone know.

JMHO.

[dusty64]

17. One would think the

corporations that run our Pravda and Washington would make the connection that American Taliban=economic disaster, but I don't think they have. They are STILL covering for them and nothings really changed.

[corporatewhore]

4. this is why freetrade should be the defining issue of 04 races

[TreasonousBastard]

5. Economically...

it's one hell of a negative.

Politically, though, I dare you to find 10 people by Monday who know what "current account balance" means or why it is important. Extra credit for finding just one person who knows how foreign investment balances with trade.

You can run on "jobs to Mexico" but you can't run on trade deficit, even though they are two sides of the same coin.

On the other hand, the trade at any cost types happily say that outsourcing is a good thing, because anyone left working can buy stuff cheaper.

[izzie]

13. Seems bad to me but Rep keep saying it is good.

So we are buying more than we sell so money is leaving the country and oh top of that the dollar value falls. So if you visit NYC you can buy more than you used to be able to buy if you are from over seas.Since our money is worth less fewer people wish to invest in American money and are willing to call their loans to re-invest in say Fr. or with euros. I do not see that as good for me. Any reason it should be? My money will not buy more as it has less value. We always looked at this when we went to Canada.If on top of this so many jobs leave this country and you have to work at MacDonald's how do you buy the things they are making over seas even if they are a little cheaper to make. they do not pass the saving along or only a little of it. I did hate Eco 101

[Blue_State_Elitist]

6. yeah

Jobs, Economy, Debt, Jobs, Economy, Debt etc.

[Andromeda]

7. Typical Republican spin...

Yes, David. It's a negative to have over a half trillion trade deficit, duh!

They are delusional and are already collapsing under their own lies.

[physioex]

8. Did anyone watch Lou Dobbs tonight?

Just because we are liberal doesn't mean we cannot agree with certain conservatives on certain issues. I agreed with what David Carrol was saying about the true definition of a Conservative. And if that was the real life definition, I would be one. Lou Dobbs is a right wing guy I admire for pounding the outsourcing of America issue. Pat Buchanan is man I admire for his stand on American foreign policy and the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

[Skittles]

20. yeah

even broken clocks are right twice a day

[watercolors]

22. we have been watching Lou

for a few weeks now, normally don't watch the show. He is doing an escellant job of getting the point across on the out sourceing and job market. Also the coverage of illigals entering, I think he is doing a better job at getting the message out then anyone, he is also well respected by many conservatives.

[tkmorris]

9. I haven't missed Dobbs for weeks now

I am really loving his show these days. It seems as if he has some schmuck on every day who tries to explain why outsourcing and trade deficits etc are a good thing and Dobbs just tears them apart. The incredulous look on his face as they drone on is just priceless.

I strongly recommend watching him. I never thought I'd say THAT but it's true.

[countmyvote4real]

11. Wonder when that approach will be applied to sex scandals?

<activate truth distortion field>

And you see that as a huge negative...

[DemBones DemBones]

12. I saw it, too. Dreier is an obnoxious twit,

but it's fun to watch Lou trash the crazies. He got into it with Steve Forbes last week, probably much to Forbes's surprise.

As for Pat Buchanan, I just read a lengthy article by him, in which he was ripping the neocons' foreign policy ideas apart, taking much of his ammunition from criticism of the new book by David Frum and Richard Perle, who want to invade Syria, among other things.

I especially enjoyed it when he said of Dubya needing to get rid of Richard Perle: "His father would never have tolerated this."

Strange times indeed when I find myself cheering Pat Buchanan.

[_Jumper_]

15. Dobbs

He is good on trade but he is a race-baiter who bashes immigrants more than Pat Buchanan.

[cryofan]

23. he doesn't bash IMMIGRATION, he bashes MASS IMMIGRATION

There is a difference! You know that, don't you?

[Ilsa]

18. I have a choice between BBC World News and Dobbs at 5pm

CST, and I've been picking Dobbs lately. He and Forbes, and Drier, and other right-wing nuts have been going at it for awhile now. They almost get into shouting matches, and they are attacking Dobbs in print media, etc, for his recent "protectionism". I sent him an email the other day thanking him for telling the truth about our economy and what the powerful are doing to the US.

Get after them them, Lou! :thumbsup:
:kick:

[MatthewStLouis]

19. Lets hope the democratic candidate uses outsourcing as a major issue...

I think as long as we democrats don't get sidetracked with republican hot buttons, we have a good chance of winning in November. I've been watching Lou Dobbs quite a bit lately and he's had some great reporting on the outsourcing of American jobs. Lou Dobbs even has a website with listings of "Benedict Arnold companies" (to borrow a phrase from Kerry).

Thanks,
Matt


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[HootieMcBoob]

21. More like 2-2 = 5

n/t

[Tactical Progressive]

24. Dobb's retort was the best line of the night on TV

DOBBS: ....We are right now running a half trillion dollar trade deficit.

DREIER: And you see that as a huge negative...

Dobbs: That's why it's called a deficit. It's a negative ...


I was cracking up!

That segment was pretty contentious, though politely so, with Drier doing his usual disingenous motor-mouthing.

Dobbs is one of those few Republicans who appears to have made it back to at least a handhold on sanity. I wouldn't have pegged him for the type that could. He was a typical dull right-winger for many years. Maybe his ill-fated dot-com adventure helped do it or maybe he has a personal connection to working class people that can't be drowned in the self-righteous banality of right-wing economic propaganda, but whatever spurred it initially he doesn't seem to be letting go like I thought he would.

Kevin Philips and Pat Buchanan on economics and David Brock on social and ethics issues made it back too. That's four out of fifty million right there! I would never have given such high odds to right-wing economic sanity. Perhaps my model needs adjusting.