Are Noriega and Hussein partying down together?

[mopaul]

I remember when one of our old c.i.a. operatives was 'captured' during daddybush's big Panama invasion and war he called, "Operation Just Cause". Remember? We invaded Panama and killed about 500 civilians looking for Noriega, who turned himself in at a phone booth at the local pizza hut or something. Then Manuel was spirited into the U.S. and thrown into a dark hole in Miami I believe. That was over 10 years ago. Whatever happened to Manuel Noriega? Is he still there in jail in Miami? Does anyone know or care?

I suspect that he is living it up in Switzerland or something and the facade of his captivity is still being maintained. Is this how Hussein will end up too? Hussein himself was a c.i.a. operative, just like Osama. Remember Osama? They all work for bushco, they all do what they're told, and they are probably all on a yacht somewhere living it up and laughing.

I want to ask them some questions. Can they be reached? Are they off limits to reporters? I want to ask Saddam a few things about his long standing association with the bush family, and Osama bin Laden's decades long business dealings with the bush family too. And I'd like to ask Noriega what he's been up to all these years in a Miami jail. If that's where he really is. Has anyone looked lately?

I strongly suspect that Hussein was not captured at all, nor were his two sons killed in an ambush. Why don't I accept the official white house bushco story? Cause they are a bunch of lying murderers, that's why. I suspect that Hussein is hiding out under our protection, and that it wall all arranged in advance. His 'capture' was a total photo-op hoax, that went swimmingly. Probably 90% of us believe the official story.

90% of us believe 90% of the bull---- put out by our 'leaders'.
We need to stop believing all the 'official stories' coming from the white house. All of them. Once a president has been caught in a lie, you can't believe a word he says...........right?

[BradCKY]

1. Umm Clinton was caught in a "lie"

Let's not start the conspiracy theories without proof.

[ComerPerro]

5. Maybe you havent noticed

But Bush has been caught in countless lies.

And what does he have to show for it?

Over 500 dead American troops, and 3,000 dead American citizens on Sept. 11.

But, oh, yeah, I forgot. Clinton lied about a blow job.

I guess that is just much, much worse than lying about 9/11, WMD, justification for war, and nuclear weapons.

[mopaul]

6. are they putting drugs in our kool-aid?

i don't get the disconnect. Clinton: 1 lie about a blowjob.
Bush: HUNDREDS of lies about the most grave matters known to humanity.
the punishment Bill endured, humiliation, impeachment, being called a sexual predator of all things, and worse, the hatred they ejaculated at him were all just unbelievable. they shut the frikkin government down over a tiny, embarassing lie, but no one even mentions bush's lies about 9-11, enron, haliburton, harkin, cheney's energy meetings,
leakgate, invisible weapons of terror, awol, laura's vehicular homocide on her boyfriend, cocaine addicition and arrest, tax breaks for the extremely wealthy, jobs going overseas, lies about afghanistan, and iraq, and civilian deaths, and anthrax, and ricin, and every awful kind of lie you can think of, but.....where's the outrage? we've got Clinton fatigue....that's it, we are just tired of endless investigations and fishing expeditions and things that happened a long time ago, let's just give the next president a break....even if he took the job in a coup de tat.

where are the angry liberals?

[BradCKY]

7. I wasn't saying Bush wasn't much worse

Just using his example of someone lieing once and how the republicans always tend to spin that to make Clinton look bad. Meanwhile ignoring the lies of their own administration.

[9215]

8. Welcome to DU BradCKY

:toast:

[ComerPerro]

10. In that case, I would reccomend using OReilley's new philosphy

If a republican tries to say "Clinton lied", I can take comfort in reminding them of the words of their spiritual leader, Bill O'Reilley:

"Don't justify bad behavior by pointing to bad behavior".

He especially enjoys sharing this pearl of wisdom with callers who remind him that although Martha Stewart is on trial, Ken Lay is getting off scott free.

Well, Bill. Take your own advice and stop reminding us what Clinton did and said.

Bush is your guy, you support him, so maybe you should focus on defending him instead of attacking others.

Lord knows he is under fire...

[Odallas]

2. Noriega has plush digs in south Florida

Unlimited supply of oreo cookies (his favorite) and frequent trips to the "outside". Of course, bush family friend, John Hinkley now enjoys unsupervised, extended family visits. I'm sure Saddam can count on similar punishment. If he keeps his mouth shut!

[pbeal]

3. Manuel Noriega is in a fed prision in Florida for the next 30 years

Manuel Noriega is in a fed prision in Florida for the next 30 years
He got a 40 years. Good luck on asking him questions.

And in Panama we killed 500 - 1000 military/police(in Panama the Military and police were the same) and 2000 - 3000 civilians, I know I was there(I added at least 3 maybe 4 to military total).

There is/was a couple of mass graves on Corazon army base, There were also large portions of panama city getto that burnt to the ground since there was no fire fighters working at the time and it was a "suprise attack" and most of the buildings were built out of plywood they went up pretty quickly not many people got out of the fires, and not many bodies could be recovered or IDed from the fires.

[seemslikeadream]

4. And I'm sure Noreiga learned alot in the School of the Americas

when he was there.

[9215]

13. CBS "60 minutes" did something on Noriega incarceration a couple

of years ago.

[9215]

9. Noriega: "I've got Bush by the balls!"

He said this to his lieutenant about three weeks before Poppy called for the invasion. This quote is from Alexandar Cockburn's book: "Whiteout".




http://www.policestudies.eku.edu/POTTER/Module9.htm

.......The Bank of Credit and Commerce International: The close relationship between the U.S. government, the financial community, and organized crime is nowhere clearer than in the activities of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) (Kappeler, Blumberg, and Potter, 1993: 237-238). BCCI was the seventh-largest privately owned bank in the world. It had over four hundred branch offices operating in seventy-three countries. Among its many criminal activities was the laundering of at least $14 billion for the Colombian cocaine cartels; the facilitating of financial transactions for Panamanian president Manuel Noriega and international arms merchant Adnan Khashoggi; the funneling of cash to the contras for illegal arms deals and contra-backed drug trafficking; and the assisting of Phillipine President Ferdinand Marcos in transferring his personal fortune, accrued through corruption and graft, out of the Philippines.


Funny how John Kerry was onto this back in the '80s

http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html>
For Kerry’s trouble, Bush ordered Poindexter and Ollie North to get the FBI on Kerry. Could that be why Junior sealed all of Poppy’s papers as soon as he could start signing stuff back in January 2001? Here’s some of what we do have on record::
Read what Jonathan Vankin wrote, back when Iran-Contra drug dealing was merely a risqué subject (today, it’s gone taboo, with reporters losing their jobs for writing stories about it). BTW, I’m sorry I couldn’t post this underneath several posts where it would be apropos.

EXCERPT:
… To comprehend the government’s role in cocaine traffic, (Manuel) Noriega is useful as a kind of focal point. He was on the payroll of the CIA at the same time he worked for the Medellin Cartel for four million dollars per month. The Medellin Cartel is the Columbian cocaine syndicate, responsible for most of the cocaine that enters the U.S.A.
Noriega was also connected to George Bush (Senior), and through Bush to Oliver North. They used Noriega as a conduit for getting arms to the contras.
Bush, North, and other government insiders at the CIA and the National Security Council (which under Reagan got heavily into covert operations) most likely knew about Noriega’s involvement with drugs. Revelations about Noriega, and about direct contra and CIA involvement with cocaine smuggling, found their way into public record via a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, chaired by John Kerry.
In 1986, Senator Kerry received information that the Costa Rican branch of a Miami-based shrimp company Ocean Hunter, widely regarded as a drug-running front, had received checks for more than $200,000 dollars from the U.S. government. The money was part of the “humanitarian aid” allocated for the contras by Congress. Wondering why the cash was channeled to this shrimp-and-dope outfit, Kerry went to the FBI asking for an inquiry. Instead, the FBI investigated Kerry himself.
SNIP…
But wait, it gets better!
According to the FBI reports, North asked the FBI to investigate Kerry, to find links between the Massachusetts senator and the Nicaraguan Sandinista government. The investigation was reportedly initiated by a crack FBI counterintelligence group usually employed to track foreign agents in the United States.
SOURCE: Jonathan Vankin. Conspiracies, Cover-Ups and Crimes: Political Manipulation and Mind Control in America, Paragon House, New York, pp. 163-164 (1991):

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. In the early 80's

I worked for a jewelry manufacturer in Miami, when a couple of Noreiga's runners started showing up looking to buy gold. There were two very nice, quiet, polite, Scandinavian young blond haired men. They would come in and out of Miami carrying $100,000's in cash, to trade for gold. The local bank was more than willing to lend a helping hand.

At the moment, Manuel is still living in a jail in downtown Miami. I believe he has a fairly comfortable suite there.

[9215]

12. Interesting. Do you remember the name of the bank?

It wasn't Suntrust was it?

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. No it wasn't Suntrust

It was Peoples Bank. A local branch in a North Dade industrial park.