A parallel, "Three Days of the Condor", and the M.E. situation...

[rasputin1952]

I hadn't seen "Three Days of the Condor in many a year. But it has been shown a couple of times now, and I cannot help but see parallels in that movie, and what is happening now.

The whole M.E. 'situation' seems eerily familiar when you see this flick. CIA, military intervention, the 'noble' excuse for getting oil so that Americans would not be without energy needs, right down to the suppression of news, including the story that 'Condor' put in to the NYT's.

I might suggest watching this flick, just to see some of those parallels.

BTW: If anyone posted this before, I apologize. I don't want to steal your thunder. I just thought this was interesting.

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[ewagner]

1. That occurred to me

back in March.

How many languages has the PNAC doctrine been translated into?

[rasputin1952]

6. What I found especially eerie...

was that the film was made in '77 or '79. Just a thought, but a good one to ponder.

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[RainDog]

2. more eerily prescient movies...

I just watched an old, old movie, Meet John Doe, with Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwyck, before she was a femme fatale...

anyway, it takes place in the Great Depression and the corporations were at it then, like now...they talk about the oil companies who don't give a flip...

a guy who buys a newspaper to smear other candidates, and a bunch of fat cats who try to crush a person who gives hope to people who are out of work because of the fiscal irresponsibility of the rich and their utter disregard for the well being of the "regular joe."

so reporter Stanwyck invents a "reality show" via her newspaper column...a guy so down on his luck with so few job prospects, he's gonna kill himself...the guy gets so much attention, Stanwyck and her editor have to find a guy to be John Doe...and because he's so desperate, he gets paid by the media in a game of survival for the whole country to watch.

different time, but some things stay eerily the same.

also, The Manchurian Candidate...are they still going to remake that one? ...but doesn't Bush remind you of the guy who gets falsely credited with being a war hero, whose parents manipulate the pols and media into getting the guy elected for prez?

the stepfather acts all apple pie america, but he has another agenda.

also brings up all that CIA secret research creepiness.

[rasputin1952]

4. Never saw that one, but I will get it, thanks...

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[MI Cherie]

3. "The Long Kiss Goodnight" is another one ...

... staging a terrorist attack to get more funding ...

[rasputin1952]

5. Will get that one too, thanks!

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[MI Cherie]

8. I missed the reference the first time I saw it.

That was pre-9/11. It's 7-8 years old and there's a quick CIA conversation about midway. The ME guy on ice (to blame) wasn't quite as subtle. It took on a whole new meaning after 9/11.

Lots of action, some laughs, a bit risqué and campy. If you like Geena Davis & Samuel Jackson, it'll be worth a watch or two. Encore has been showing it occasionally and it's in the $1 rental section at the video store.

[Beam Me Up]

7. "Network" is another movie appropriate for our times.

I hadn't seen it since it first came out in the mid '70s. Remember the slogan "I'm MAD AS HELL and I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!"? It's all about 'media (specifically television) driven' reality and the importance of the "bottom line. It even has the 'network' PAYING TERRORISTS to video tape themselves commiting terrorist acts which are then used to boost ratings.

Made in 1975, I think. ;)

[rasputin1952]

9. I remember that one...

you are right, it's almost preceisly what the media has become.

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[CaptainMidnight]

10. speaking of...MIKE RUPPERT

Wow,

Yeah, I saw TTOTC on AMC again today. And I had just sent an email dispatch to my readers regarding Mike Ruppert's latest essay at From The Wilderness.

In it, he ends wth a reference to the very same movie. Then I see this topic just now!

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/013004_in_your_face.html

And he includes the following dialogue, very prescient:

Turner (Robert Redford): "Do we have plans to invade the Middle East ?"

Higgins (Cliff Robertson): " Are you crazy?"

Turner: " Am I?"

Higgins: "Look, Turner…"

Turner: "Do we have plans?"

Higgins: "No. Absolutely not. We have games. That's all. We play games. What if? How many men? What would it take? Is there a cheaper way to destabilize a régime? That's what we're paid to do."

Turner: "Go on. So Atwood just took the game too seriously. He was really going to do it, wasn't he?”

Higgins: "It was a renegade operation. Atwood knew 54-12 would never authorize it. There was no way, not with the heat on the Company.”

Turner: "What if there hadn't been any heat? Supposing I hadn't stumbled on a plan? Say nobody had?"

Higgins: "Different ball game. The fact is there was nothing wrong with the plan. Oh, the plan was alright. The plan would have worked."

Turner: "Boy, what is it with you people? You think not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth?"

Higgins: "No. It's simple economics. Today it's oil, right? In 10 or 15 years - food, Plutonium. And maybe even sooner. Now what do you think the people are gonna want us to do then?

Turner : " Ask them."

Higgins: "Not now - then. Ask them when they're running out. Ask them when there's no heat in their homes and they're cold. Ask them when their engines stop. Ask them when people who've never known hunger start going hungry. Do you want to know something? They won't want us to ask them. They'll just want us to get it for them."

SPOOOOOOOOOOOOKY!!!

Captain Mike

[rasputin1952]

11. That was one part that I found exceptionally intriguing...

That dialog is incredible. Most of us who didn't t rust the CIA back then, were re-inforced in our beliefs. Bu to see what has happened and correlate it to that movie is really spooky!

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[Atlant]

12. "Three Days of the Condor" is now out on DVD...

...along with Brubaker. I'll probably buy them both.

It's not uncommon for the satellite/cable movie channels to pick up
on a film when it's finally released to DVD.

Atlant

[rasputin1952]

14. Thanks...

just back into town from a two day trip.

I'll check the ;ocal video store. Sometimes I find them used at one p
That's how I built up my tape library.

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[KoKo]

13. kick for weekend flicks to rent.

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