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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 10:56 PM
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Feb. 16th -- 9/11 Families Throw Down Gauntlet to Bush
The Family Steering Committee Statement and Questions Regarding the 9/11 Commission Interview with President Bush

February 16, 2004

The Family Steering Committee believes that President Bush should provide sworn public testimony to the full ten-member panel of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.

Collectively, the Commissioners are responsible for fulfilling the Congressional mandate. Therefore, each Commissioner must have full access to the testimony of all individuals and the critical information that will enable informed decisions and recommendations. Before an audience of the American people, the Commission must ask President Bush in sworn testimony, the following questions:

1. As Commander-in-Chief on the morning of 9/11, why didn't you return immediately to Washington, D.C. or the National Military Command Center once you became aware that America was under attack? At specifically what time did you become aware that America was under attack? Who informed you of this fact?

2. On the morning of 9/11, who was in charge of our country while you were away from the National Military Command Center? Were you informed or consulted about all decisions made in your absence?

3. What defensive action did you personally order to protect our nation during the crisis on September 11th? What time were these orders given, and to whom? What orders were carried out? What was the result of such orders? Were any such orders not carried out?

4. In your opinion, why was our nation so utterly unprepared for an attack on our own soil?

5. U.S. Navy Captain Deborah Loewer, the Director of the White House Situation Room, informed you of the first airliner hitting Tower One of the World Trade Center before you entered the Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida. Please explain the reason why you decided to continue with the scheduled classroom visit, fifteen minutes after learning the first hijacked airliner had hit the World Trade Center.

6. Is it normal procedure for the Director of the White House Situation Room to travel with you? If so, please cite any prior examples of when this occurred. If not normal procedure, please explain the circumstances that led to the Director of the White House Situation Room being asked to accompany you to Florida during the week of September 11th.

7. What plan of action caused you to remain seated after Andrew Card informed you that a second airliner had hit the second tower of the World Trade Center and America was clearly under attack? Approximately how long did you remain in the classroom after Card's message?

8. At what time were you made aware that other planes were hijacked in addition to Flight 11 and Flight 175? Who notified you? What was your course of action as Commander-in-Chief of the United States?

9. Beginning with the transition period between the Clinton administration and your own, and ending on 9/11/01, specifically what information (either verbal or written) about terrorists, possible attacks and targets, did you receive from any source?

This would include briefings or communications from:

* Out-going Clinton officials
* CIA, FBI, NSA, DoD and other intelligence agencies
* Foreign intelligence, governments, dignitaries or envoys
* National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice
* Richard Clarke, former counterterrorism czar

10. Specifically, what did you learn from the August 6, 2001, PDB about the terrorist threat that was facing our nation? Did you request any follow-up action to take place? Did you request any further report be developed and/or prepared?

11. As Commander-in-Chief, from May 1, 2001 until September 11, 2001, did you receive any information from any intelligence agency official or agent that UBL was planning to attack this nation on its own soil using airplanes as weapons, targeting New York City landmarks during the week of September 11, 2001 or on the actual day of September 11, 2001?

12. What defensive measures did you take in response to pre-9/11 warnings from eleven nations about a terrorist attack, many of which cited an attack in the continental United States? Did you prepare any directives in response to these actions? If so, with what results?

13. As Commander-in-Chief from May 1, 2001 until September 11, 2001, did you or any agent of the United States government carry out any negotiations or talks with UBL, an agent of UBL, or al-Qaeda? During that same period, did you or any agent of the United States government carry out any negotiations or talks with any foreign government, its agents, or officials regarding UBL? If so, what resulted?

14. Your schedule for September 11, 2001 was in the public domain since September 7, 2001. The Emma E. Booker School is only five miles from the Bradenton Airport, so you, and therefore the children in the classroom, might have been a target for the terrorists on 9/11. What was the intention of the Secret Service in allowing you to remain in the Emma E. Booker Elementary School, even though they were aware America was under attack?

15. Please explain why you remained at the Sarasota, Florida, Elementary School for a press conference after you had finished listening to the children read, when as a terrorist target, your presence potentially jeopardized the lives of the children?

16. What was the purpose of the several stops of Air Force One on September 11th? Was Air Force One at any time during the day of September 11th a target of the terrorists? Was Air Force One's code ever breached on September 11th?

17. Was there a reason for Air Force One lifting off without a military escort, even after ample time had elapsed to allow military jets to arrive?

18. What prompted your refusal to release the information regarding foreign sponsorship of the terrorists, as illustrated in the inaccessible 28 redacted pages in the Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry Report? What actions have you personally taken since 9/11 to thwart foreign sponsorship of terrorism?

19. Who approved the flight of the bin Laden family out of the United States when all commercial flights were grounded, when there was time for only minimal questioning by the FBI, and especially, when two of those same individuals had links to WAMY, a charity suspected of funding terrorism? Why were bin Laden family members granted that special privilege � a privilege not available to American families whose loved ones were killed on 9/11?

20. Please explain why no one in any level of our government has yet been held accountable for the countless failures leading up to and on 9/11?

21. Please comment on the fact that UBL's profile on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives poster does not include the 9/11 attacks. To your knowledge, when was the last time any agent of our government had contact with UBL? If prior to 9/11, specifically what was the date of that contact and what was the context of said meeting.

22. Do you continue to maintain that Saddam Hussein was linked to al Qaeda? What proof do you have of any connection between al-Qaeda and the Hussein regime?

23. Which individuals, governments, agencies, institutions, or groups may have benefited from the attacks of 9/11? Please state specifically how you think they have benefited.

The Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Independent Commission

http://www.911independentcommission.org/
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:00 PM
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1. "I don't testify"
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:00 PM
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44. but I'll be happy to visit with them
biaatch
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Steven_S Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:12 PM
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2. This is by far the best list of questions
If only he could be forced to answer these questions under oath.

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MI Cherie Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:54 AM
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13. Every patriotic American should be ...
...demanding these questions be answered under oath!

Anyone who does not support this effort should be ashamed.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:22 PM
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49. 1 (800) 839 - 5276 - TOLL FREE to Capitol Hill! Call 'em on this!
Absolutely correct, MI Cherie - EVERY PATRIOTIC AMERICAN should be demanding that these questions be answered under oath. You said it, my friend.

Please note the phone number. It's free. They'll transfer you, free, to anybody's office in the House and/or Senate.

I've already used it to call Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin and Dianne Feinstein. It's free.
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. Another toll free number to Congress 1-800-648-3516
We (as taxpayers) are paying for this service - use it.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:45 AM
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18. or better yet . . .
being hooked up to a lie detector with the most qualified tester(s) we have in this country.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:12 PM
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3. more on Captain Deborah Loewer
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/catholictelegraph120701.html

SPRINGFIELD DEANERY - United States Navy Captain Deborah Loewer, at home in Springfield for the Thanksgiving holiday, recently spoke to a gathering of 50 people at St. Joseph/St. Raphael Church in Springfield about the Sept. 11 attacks on America.

Loewer, a Springfield native who was raised in St. Joseph Parish, is currently the director of the White House Situation Room. She was the one who informed President George W. Bush of the Sept. 11 attacks.

The daughter of Hubert and Marilyn Loewer, longtime St. Joseph parishioners, Captain Loewer traveled to Florida with President Bush on Sept. 11 to visit a school. She received the message from her deputy in the White House Situation Room about the plane crashing into the first tower, and she described running from her car in the motorcade to the president's car to pass along the information.

Once they reached the school, they watched events unfold on television, along with others in America. A short time later, she recognized the attacks for what they were and reported, "Mr. President, I think it's terrorism."

Loewer was on Air Force One with the president when they departed Florida and flew to the first of two secure locations. It wasn't until they returned to Washington, D.C., that evening and Loewer left the helicopter on the south lawn of the White House that her parents spotted her on TV and knew she was all right.

...more that will push every button you have...
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:23 PM
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4. Meanwhile, the Secret Service let the President sit in the classroom
for 10 or 15 minutes, then let him stay in the school long enough to make a brief statement (with the obligatory students standing behind him as a backdrop), before he went to Air Force One.

It would seem to me that they should have wisked him out of the room the moment they learned our country was under attack, and rush him to the safety of Air Force One -- which can be off the ground in minutes, especially if it was sitting at the end of the runway with engines running.

Given the chaotic and unprecedented nature of what was going on in the rest of the U.S., it seemed the activities surrounding * at that time were pretty casual.
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indy thinker Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:36 AM
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10. Maybe they thought
he was safe because Florida was under martial law as of 9/7/01
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:43 AM
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21. Was that ever rescinded?
NT!

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indy thinker Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #21
47. It ran out
June 30, 2003

Here is a link to the executive order.
http://sun6.dms.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/orders/2001/september/eo2001-261-09-07-01.html
On doing a little research I found that Jeb Bush put someone who served in the NG(in TX not AL) with *

http://sun6.dms.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/orders/2001/september/eo2001-261-09-07-01.html

http://www.ngb.army.mil/ngbgomo/library/bio/burnett_d.htm
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:26 PM
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5. That's the first time I've ever seen the Loewer report
A short time later, she recognized the attacks for what they were and reported, "Mr. President, I think it's terrorism."

Anyone know if this was before he entered the classroom, or when he came back in the room after finishing the Hungry Catepillar?

In a telephone interview the day before her talk, Loewer said that in those initial moments of the flight, obviously many calls needed to go out. So, she asked the president, "Who do you want to talk to first?" President Bush replied, " 'I want to talk to my wife.' "

Ok, I can understand family and he being worried about Laura - but he's the friggin CIC - I think there were others he should've been talking to first. I don't understand why those who lost family in the Pentagon or those injured there aren't just furious with him.

Great set of questions by the families. Bet the 9-11 commission doesn't come half as close to asking him this.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:48 PM
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7. it really does seem interesting that Loewer was with
* on that morning



As Director of Communications Dan Bartlett points to news footage of the World Trade Center Towers burning, President George W. Bush gathers information about the attack at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Fla., Sept. 11, 2001. Also photographed are Director of White House Situation Room, National Security Council, Deborah Loewer (directly behind the President) and Senior Advisor Karl Rove (right).
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Hello Domino's? (n/t)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:36 AM
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11. That question 6 just jumped out at me......and I'll be real interested to
know if this person travels with the President (or pResident, in Mr. Bush's case) normally. Or another unexplained coincidence?

IMHO, Flt 93's 20 minute delay on the tarmac screwed everything up.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. 42 minutes
Flt. 93 was 42 mins. late.

The other three had minor delays.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:41 AM
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16. I didn't realize the delay was that long. Interesting.
I assume 77's meandering around Kentucky was a holding delay to make a coordinated attack on Washington with 93. If 93 goes off on time, that attack would have occurred 10 minutes (or less) after the 2nd WTC hit and no one would have blamed the military for not being "up" then.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:11 AM
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19. That's what I've always figured!
Next question: how were "they" communicating between 77 and 93 to coordinate this?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:46 AM
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22. One minute after it took off, the second hijacking was confirmed.
How crazy is that? Five more minutes, maybe 93 wouldn't have taken off.

According to some theorists, 9/11 may have been very different had this plane not taken off...

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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #7
15. Here a pic I saved and added text. I don't have a server so I can't post
http://timesxarrow.tripod.com/page3.html

Please feel free to use and post. I made this about 2.5 years ago.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:47 AM
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23. Link doesn't work.
NT!

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 08:57 AM
Response to Reply #15
34. Great great link dArKeR - Thank you very much, man!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 08:41 AM
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33. Plus Karl Rove who rarely travels
no less with the pResident. Rove supposedly hates to travel and even in DC is rarely photographed with the pResident.

Add to that list Jeb and Brogan, Gov. & Lt. Gov of FL and that's a pretty high level group of people for a photo op at an elementary school?

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #5
12. Before, right after the motorcade arrived and before they went into the
school.

If you want to see the second-by-second details of 9/11, you can find them at www.cooperativeresearch.org
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:19 AM
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36. Even Freepers Have To Admit This Is Too Much of a coincidence
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 09:21 AM by bushisanidiot
the director of the white house situation room just happens to be with the president on a little "feel good" trip to an elementary school? why? WHY??!!

president AWOL should be MADE to look at the pictures of those people jumping from the towers! he's probably never looked.
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 11:30 PM
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6. Wow!
Over the last week, I keep thinking I'm dreaming and I'm going to wake up. IT'S ALL FINALLY HAPPENING! I can't believe it. I never dared to hope...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. seemslikeadream to me
I wish I could wake up.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 01:42 AM
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17. Also add to question #1
Why did Air Force One take off out of Florida with no military planes as escorts considering the U.S. was still under attack? (oops, found this as question 17).

They should also ask why did Bush and VP Cheney ask Daschle not to pressure for an investigation into the attack. They claimed the country needed to heal at the time.

Also, why had there already been war plans made against Afghanistan by August, 2001, after several of the Taliban visited with some of the biggest oil companies in Texas, and then refused to allow the American companies to come in and start a pipeline from the Caspian Sea and through Afghanistan. Also, isn't Afghanistan's interim leader, Hamid Karzi, a former high-ranking official within one of the large oil companies that were vying for this very lucrative deal? (which, at that time, was felt to be the second largest oil reserves other than Saudi Arabia.)

Also, we have attempted Nation building in Afghanistan and Iraq (supposedly), and both have been miserable failures except for the attempt in Afghanistan got the administration what they wanted all along. Not Bin Laden . . . the oil pipeline.

I hope they tape these sessions for the American People to watch. Getting them live and unedited would be out of the question from this administration.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:49 AM
Response to Reply #17
24. Hamid Karzi worked for Unocal.
NT!

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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:43 AM
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20. They should also question the stock market fiasco.
Did anyone ever claim all that money from the stocks that were sold short? The airline stocks?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:50 AM
Response to Reply #20
25. The "put" options? I don't think the money was ever claimed.
NT!

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 03:52 AM
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26. They left out a huge one: where were the interceptors?
FAA standard procedure is to scramble planes when an emergency can even be assumed to be in effect.

So, where were the planes, and why - after finally taking off - did they fly at no more than half-speed, sometimes significantly less?

I think we all know the answer to that one.

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:12 AM
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28. I second the motion!
Where the HELL were those interceptors on 9/11? And WHO countermanded the Standard Operating Procedure?

:grr:
dbt
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #26
48. Remember, these are the questions to Bush...
as opposed to those for Rumsfeld, Cheney, Myers, Eberhard, the supposed pilots, base commanders, et al.

Though you could ask Bush:

Did you authorize any orders relating to air defense on the day?

What is your knowledge of how the air defense reacted?

Have you been briefed on air defense reaction? What have you been told about each flight? (Was UA93 shot down?)
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Pay-per-Ballot Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 05:02 AM
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27. "WE" Are the "Official" 911 Commission...
With just 75 days left to go for them to tie the yellow ribbon on the official "whitewash," it's time to let the media have it! Please generate as many e'mail as you can, here's what I mean:

It is not unreasonable to say, that:

1.) "Science has proven that 9-11 was created by 'Black-ops' -within OUR Government."

2.) "Every piece of Evidence suggests these are 'Treasonable' offenses."

3.) "Our President has used every means within his power to 'cover-up' every potential 'lead' in this case. The Public can, and therefore Should demand a full Public investigation, if based on circumstantial evidence alone."

Although WE supporters of the US Constitution represent only a very small 'fringe' group, it is not unreasonable for us to deploy our 'spam-generators' to remind ALL Americans daily: "FREE VIAGRA: Watch the President 'writhe' in his bright Orange G'tmo Suit! or how about: "BUSH spills COCAINE on Monica's Blue Dress."

Anything we can do will help sway the 50/50 'perceptions' that would allow Diebold to: "Deliver the Vote" -to Bush.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:40 AM
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29. Awesome!
I hope they force the media to pay attention, they've been completely ignored so far.
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:44 AM
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30. it is time for ALL Americans
Edited on Tue Feb-17-04 08:13 AM by graphixtech
to raise Hell about this issue.
There is but a small window in history for any public influence here.

On a personal note, I will assure readers that there is a noticable increasing public support at our regular Saturday KC 911 Visibility protests. Many people realize that the media is ignoring this scandel and are HUNGRY for independent information about this issue. Last Saturday, there were more honks of support than I ever remember hearing. There was also much less negativity than just a few months ago.

Forming a 9-11 visibility group in your area is easy, and a healthy outlet. NOW is a great time to start your town in this 9-11 Visibilty movement. The number of cities becoming involved is increasing daily.
http://septembereleventh.org/

We provide a step-by-step how-to guide to help you get your group together, complete with tips, organizing actions and demos, networking with local peace and justice groups, etc. Everything you need to get started, including where to buy 9-11 books, videos and other materials, is in an online guide.

learn more about this upcoming Sunday's Ellen Mariani Kansas City visit: (huge turnout expected, stay tuned)
http://septembereleventh.org/kc/index.php

my new iMovie showing KC's 911 Visibility efforts in action:
http://homepage.mac.com/snapshots1/iMovieTheater1.html



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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 07:51 AM
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31. Why the hell hasn't the US media asked these questions?
They have collectively failed in their responsibility in the years since 9/11.

Totally shameful. Inexcusable.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 08:24 AM
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32. Karl Rove will bury us if we don't ACT NOW
Action Alert

Many people have asked how they can help in the search for the truth about September 11th . To impress upon our government officials and the Commission that all Americans want answers and accountability, raise your voice with ours to demand a full accounting.

Here's how you can help:

Support an Extension for the 9/11 Investigation

Write, call or e-mail the Commission, the White House and your Congressmen. We want them to feel that the pressure is on from all Americans.

The 9/11 Independent Commission

http://www.9-11commission.gov

Let the Commission know that you want a comprehensive, in-depth, classified report and that you support an extension to allow them sufficient time to get to the whole truth.

Tel: 202-331-4060

info@9-11Commission.gov

Fax: 202-296-5545

The White House

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

Send the same message to the White House. Failure to publicly support the extension requested by the Commission so that it can complete its mandate, implies that the White House does not support a full accounting of the facts and circumstances of September 11th. Also tell President Bush that you expect him to cooperate fully and immediately with the Independent Commission's document and interview requests.

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard 202- 456-1414
FAX: 202- 456-2461
president@whitehouse.gov

Your Congressmen

To find your Senators and Representatives go to

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

http://www.house.gov
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:15 AM
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35. AWOL is guilty of TREASON and should be JAILED!
he promised to protect us when he took the oath of office.

he fucking LIED! he had ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION of taking care of anyone but himself and his rich buddies.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #35
42. Not only that...
but robbed everything in plain sight and is getting away with it!
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:36 AM
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37. A little
kick!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:58 AM
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38. sent this to Helen Thomas

maybe she'll annoy Snotty with them!

she sent me a nice little note yesterday regarding a previous email about her last encounter with him...
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:47 AM
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43. Please let us know if you hear back from Helen.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:03 PM
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46. oh, i will....
promise.

she's always answered my mail over the past few years, so I'm hopeful.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:08 AM
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39. San Francisco and Toronto residents take note.
Whereas the tragic events of 9-11 have been used by the United States government to justify a war upon the world, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights;

Whereas the Joint House and Senate Inquiry of September 11, 2001 and the Independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks have not served to “reveal the truth about the events of September 11, 2001,” but to justify increasing the power of the National Security State;

Whereas the mass-circulation press in the United States has failed to ask the most basic questions about what actually happened on September 11, 2001, and has supported the extension of U.S. military might throughout the world;

We, who question the official narrative of September 11, 2001, and question the path the U.S. government has chosen in its wake, believe a public inquiry-- asking who, what, how, when and why -- into those events is vitally necessary. Therefore, this Inquiry intends to bring ogether, to share what they have learned with the world, independent researchers, questioners, seekers of evidence, authors, film-makers: all those who desire and work to discover the truth about September 11, 2001.


Some of the invesitgators and interested parties lined up for the San Francisco event include Daniel Hopsicker off www.madcowprod.com Mike Ruppert of www.fromthewilderness.com , Nafeez Ahmed author of The War on Freedom, Andreas Von Buelow former German cabinet minister (Mr. Von Buelow has expressed some concern he will not be allowed into the US to participate),Barrie Zwicker Producer of "The Great Deception" and Ellen Mariani, wife of 911 victim and her attorney Phil Berg www.911forthetruth.com (Ellen Mariani filed a RICO action lawsuit against President Bush and other high level members of his administration based upon prior knowledge of 911.


International 9-11 Inquiry, March 26-28 San Francisco

International 9-11 Inquiry May 30-June 13 Toronto



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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:08 AM
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40. What we have gotten, in effect, is I got no obligation to do no 'splaining
to nobody about nothing, so get out of my face.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:45 AM
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41. Thanks for posting. n/t
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 10:14 AM
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51. thanks for thanking
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Galley_Queen Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:01 PM
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45. Wow!
Very well written questions! These folks aren't fooling around!

What would I give to read the answers to these questions from the Unelected Fraud!

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 03:21 AM
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50. Article
9/11 families throw down gauntlet, attack 9/11 coverup

By Nicholas Levis
www.911truth.org
<newyorkcity@snafu.de>

Tuesday, Feb. 17, 2004. New York City.

Relatives challenge White House to provide answers to 23 questions
9/11 Family Steering Committee demands Bush testify under oath


"Mr. Bush, who approved the flight of the bin Laden family out of the United States, when all commercial flights were grounded?"

That is one of 23 explosive questions that George W. Bush and his subordinates will have to face in public testimony, under oath and pain of perjury - that is, if the relatives of people killed in the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 get their way.

"Why has no one in any level of our government been held accountable for the countless failures leading up to and on 9/11?"

For more than a year, the Family Steering Commitee - a group of thirteen "9/11 relatives" representing several other 9/11 family groups - has monitored the government's commission on Sept. 11, which is headed by former New Jersey governor Thomas Kean. FSC member Mindy Kleinberg was among the first to testify when the Kean Commission held its first proceedings. She alerted the panel to a number of disturbing and unanswered questions and contradictions in the government's explanation of what happened on Sept. 11.

(For a transcript of Kleinberg's comments, see
www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing1/witness_kleinberg.htm)

Almost none of the issues raised by Kleinberg were ever again brought up in the Kean Commision's public hearings.

The Family Steering Committee issued their challenge to Bush on Monday, following reports last week that the Kean Commission had asked George W. Bush and Bill Clinton to testify. The White House says Bush is considering an appearance before the Kean Commission, but only in secret session. And if he does appear, it is unlikely Bush will face questions like those on the Family Steering Committee's list: "Please explain why you remained at the Sarasota, Florida, Elementary School for a press conference after you had finished listening to the children read, when as a terrorist target, your presence potentially jeopardized the lives of the children?"

(Mr. Bush, his staff and his Secret Service entourage were indeed in that school, as carried on live television, until 9:32 a.m. on Sept. 11, 45 minutes after the first plane hit the World Trade Center, and 27 minutes after the moment when Bush was informed of the second plane crash and told "America is under attack," at 9:05 a.m., an anomaly that the White House has never explained.)

In recent weeks, the family members have released a series of harshly-worded statements, blasting the Bush administration for stonewalling the investigation - and also condemning the Kean Commission for refusing to examine key evidence. These statements have been published at the FSC's website at www.911independentcommission.org.

In its public hearings the Kean Commission has indeed displayed reluctance to pursue controversial lines of inquiry. It is hard to imagine its members would ever ask if the U.S. government tried to cut a deal with Osama Bin Laden in advance of the attacks, as reported in the European press already in 2001. But the families want the answer: "Did you or any agent of the United States government carry out any negotiations or talks with UBL, an agent of UBL, or al-Qaeda?" ("UBL" is government speak for Osama Bin Laden.)

Nor has the Kean Commission shown any inclination to follow the trail of the Cheney "energy policy meetings" in early 2001 and the Bush administration's oil-pipeline negotiations with the Taliban up to July 2001 - a touchy subject that might come up if the government ever had to answer this question: "During that same period, did you or any agent of the United States government carry out any negotiations or talks with any foreign government, its agents, or officials regarding UBL?"

And it is simply inconceivable that the Kean Commission would ever wonder out loud if anyone other than Al-Qaeda benefitted from the attacks. But the families are not afraid of the obvious: "Which individuals, governments, agencies, institutions, or groups may have benefited from the attacks of 9/11?"

Although the Kean Commission accepted a deal strictly limiting its access to the White House documents detailing advance warnings of a possible terror attack, Governor Kean last week felt confident enough to claim there was "no smoking gun" to indicate Bush had specific advance knowledge of the attacks - at least not in the "parts of the documents" Kean had been allowed to see.

The families don't buy that on faith or partial evidence. They want to know the real answer: "As Commander-in-Chief, from May 1, 2001 until September 11, 2001, did you receive any information from any intelligence agency official or agent that UBL was planning to attack this nation on its own soil using airplanes as weapons, targeting New York City landmarks during the week of September 11, 2001 or on the actual day of September 11, 2001?"

Meticulously researched, the FSC's questions to Bush reflect many of the same concerns that have caused millions of people worldwide to doubt everything about the official story of Sept. 11, 2001, and to call for a truly independent investigation with subpeona power, testimony under oath, and no self-imposed restrictions as to "allowable" lines of inquiry.

It is hard to dismiss these concerns as "conspiracy theory" when the U.S. government itself used the most outrageous conspiracy theory of all - the lie that Saddam backed the attacks - as one of its pretexts to invade Iraq. In that matter as well, the families want to see the government held accountable: "Do you continue to maintain that Saddam Hussein was linked to al-Qaeda?" they ask. "What proof do you have of any connection between al-Qaeda and the Hussein regime?"

These questions indicate that the families have come to understand that, as great as their grief and tragedy was, the stakes in the 9/11 disclosure issue are far greater, and involve more than justice for the victims and well-deserved closure for the families. 9/11 was used as a lever to shift the world. All Americans - and, given the global impact, the people of the whole world - need to learn the answers that the families now demand.

Family Steering Committee at www.911independentcommission.org

(See also the 9/11 Truth disclosure sites at www.septembereleventh.org and www.ny911truth.org)

FSC RELEASE FOLLOWS
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:26 PM
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53. Kicking this back to the front page!
:kick:
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:54 PM
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54. Does anyone have a phone # for this group?
I would be very interested in having one of them as a guest on my show. www.theguyjamesshow.com PM me or send an e-mail if you can help.

Guy
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 01:13 PM
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55. please go to their site and check the contacts/members page n/t
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 02:09 PM
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56. kick it yet again
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jansu Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 03:09 PM
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57. Who did Bush appoint as the head of the Air National Guard?
Major General Daniel James was head of the Texas National Guard at the time of the alleged scrubbing of George W. Bush's National Guard records. He was appointed (against most people's wishes, of those who had served with him) by George W. Bush to be commander of the nation's Air National Guard. PAYOFF????

Remember, it is the first duty of the Air National Guard to protect our skies, not the military per se.

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/2002/05/28_Scrubbed.html
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 04:57 PM
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58. What about after 9/11?
Myers (acting JCS chairman): Confirmed as Chairman of the JCS.

Eberhard (NORAD): Placed as head of NorthCom, the future North American command if there is martial law.

Sliney (FAA hijackings desk, first day on job was 9/11): promoted.

Frasca (FBI operative who vetoed a bunch of pre-9/11 investigations): promoted.

Franks: Promises martial law after a second 9/11, in interview with cigar afficianado.

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 02:26 AM
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59. The Infinite Justice KICK
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 04:05 AM
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60. Bush, Myers and Cheney should be the ones in Gitmo...
They are a clear and present danger to America.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:48 PM
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61. Did anybody contact the Steering Committee
or one of its members, and got an answer?

I did, but got no reply. I am not sure if they only need some time to answer my email, or if they get perhaps too many emails, or if my mail did not seem serious to them.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:51 PM
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62. I have not
but did write a letter to the editor , no call back yet .
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-04 12:53 PM
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63. to the editor of a newspaper about their questions?
I would like to read the answer, if you get one.
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