High Hispanic and Asian intermarriage rates: How did this happen Savage?

[_Jumper_]

"...32 percent of second-generation and 57 percent of third-generation Latinos marry outside their ethnic group...34 percent of second-generation and 54 percent of third-generation Asian-Americans do."

This certainly will make the racist blood boil :evilgrin:

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/01/rodriguez.htm


Michael Savage, Pat Buchanan, David Duke, and other anti-immigrant crusaders claim that immigrants are not assimilating ad nasuem. They tell us that previous waves of immigrants, which almost exclusively came from Europe assimilated. This is despite the fact that they were much slower to assimilate--intermarriage was non-existent until well into 20th century--and residential segregation was rampant. One wonders whether all this is traditional fear of immigrants or a race-based hostility that seeks to freeze the racial composition of the country (this just in: any attempts to do so will fail, just as the attempt to freeze the ethnic composition of America from 1924-1965 failed. Most of you need only to look into the mirror to see the evidence of that.)...

[Kinkistyle]

1. Because we "look different".

Thats why its a bit harder to assimilate. But in fact we are assimilating quite quickly. My parents came to this country in the 70's and gave birth to me, and I speak perfect English (a hunnerd times better than our Commander-in-Chimp) and associate with people of ALL different races on a regular basis.

Weiner is a dumbass racist is all.

[_Jumper_]

2. Same here

I agree with you about our appearance. Assimilation is a two-way street. We are doing everything we can but people like Savage, Buchanan, and Grant will never accept us because we aren't white.

[displacedtexan]

3. OK, here's my white, Anglo-Saxon opinion, FWIW:

I don't want to live in a melting pot, where everyone blends together until they are all the same: Individuals would have to give up their ethnic identity and deny their heritage.

I want a tossed salad, where everyone maintains his/her ethnic identity AND understands that we all share common drives and goals. All people are created equal... yadayada... life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and all that jazz.

[_Jumper_]

4. That will never happen

We can preserve minority identities for a while but after some point assimilation occurs because it is natural. At some point "we" become "them" and "they" become "us". :)

[NewJeffCT]

9. I agree

I've noticed it more and more over time - it used to be easy for me to spot and ID people - this person is Chinese, that one is Indian, another is African American, another is Puerto Rican.

Now, it is a lot harder because of so much assimilation - is that person really Chinese, or maybe some mixed Asian and/or white. Is that light brown skinned woman Hispanic, or is she mixed black & white or is she hispanic & black or something totally different altogether? (heck, a while back, I knew a gorgeous woman that was a combo Japanese and black and looked neither) Is that other brown skinned person from India, or is it Pakistan or somewhere close to that?

[Lexingtonian]

6. Not to worry during our lifetime

But around 2050-2060 the country will be majority non-white. And the 'purebreds' will increasingly be from increasingly insular communities, which by and large turn in ghettos over time.

And rather than be "X-American", Americans would actually start forming regional tribal-ish cultural identity no longer dependent on vicarious, mental crutch, 'heritage' claims. People would actually be Americans, and that would become sufficient- and, soon enough, almost necessary.

[_Jumper_]

10. Amen

It will be fun to watch the revolution happen. :)

[OhioStateProgressive]

5. I try to help those numbers

but most asian and hispanic girls turn me down:evilgrin:

[NewJeffCT]

8. sorry

That was funny... move to China for a year to teach English and you'll have women falling all over you.

[OhioStateProgressive]

22. hehe

I try to make the best out of my own situation.

Usually it means cracking jokes at my own expense.

Although:think:, that isn't a bad idea you have there......

[ComerPerro]

17. Amen

I hear ya loud and clear!

LOL

[OhioStateProgressive]

21. it's bad:), I even talk in spanish and everything(nt)

[NewJeffCT]

7. my wife is Asian

My wife was born in China and has been in America only 4 1/2 years and has, in my opinion, done a wonderful job assimilating into American culture. She has a good job and is well-liked by her co-workers. Heck, I think even my parents like her more than me sometimes... they certainly like her more than the All-American girl I was with for 3 years before I met my wife.

[_Jumper_]

11. Contact

If people like Savage actually interacted with Asians and Hispanics they would learn what you have learned.

[NewJeffCT]

20. true...

more contact certainly breaks down stereotypes, though I never bought in to that gentle, submissive Asian woman stereotype.

[bleedingheart]

12. This happens with every immigration wave..

there were people upset with Scottish lasses marrying the Russian immigrants and the Polish gals marrying the English lads.

Today a lot of people like my husband are mutts... English, German, Dutch, Slovak..etc

I am Lithuanian and Croatian... my brother nicknamed me the CLAP.. Croation-Lithuanian American Princess... which I didn't find funny...

[Brian Sweat]

15. There was a time when no ethnic group was more reviled than the Irish.

Today, the Irish are probably the most American of Americans.

[bleedingheart]

16. You are right..."No Irish Need Apply"

yet today there are a lot of people with Irish ancestry.

[ComerPerro]

18. Blazing Saddles

"Ok, we'll take the... (assorted racial slurs that I know are in teh quote, but don't want to write here)... But we don't want any Irish!"

[Vogon_Glory]

13. Well, Down Here In Texas...

Down here in Texas, many of the ethnic tensions that slow intermarriage between Hispanics (mostly Chicano) and various Anglos lost their potency between the mid-1970's to at least now. Culturally, Mexican-Americans and their West and Central Texas counterparts (I can't speak for East Texas) have a lot of values in common: patriotism, the military, etc (Gals love a man in uniform). Many from both groups also hunt and fish. Anglos may not be Low Riders, but both groups do admire muscle cars and pickup trucks. The Rodeo cowboy/vaquero traditions are part of our respective cultural identities.

Anglos and Hispanics share the same workplaces. In Roman Catholic churches they share the same pews.

Until now, California-style ethnic baiting grew dangerous for Texas politicians' careers. As Chicanos organized and voted, politicians using California style code-words like wetbacks and illegals soon found themselves out of office and either repented or went into the Nativist political netherworld.

I'm not sure if this happy state of affairs will continue. If the Republican Party had been stronger in Texas from 1965-1990, race baiting might have been less dangerous for ambitious politicians.

Even so, the Savage Weiner and his ilk might want to temper their rhetoric around some lighter-skinned Texans these days. They might yet insult someone's Mamacita or Abuela and someone may remember the rough-and-ready ways that Texans once dealt with social transgressors.

[loudnclear]

14. That's great. Maybe it will lead to no racism if we are all mixed.

but i doubt it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

19. And those of us who have "assimilated" don't have too many good

things to say about being "inside."