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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:56 PM
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Gallup Poll: Bush keeps heading down!!!
http://www.gallup.com/content/?ci=10615

Approval of President's Handling of Economy Is Down

Declining consumer confidence and increasing job fears have led to a reversal in the public's approval of the way Bush is handling the economy. In early January, 54% approved of Bush's performance on the economy and 43% disapproved. Today, only 45% approve, while 52% disapprove.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/stateNation/

Overall approval rating at 51%, 46% disapproval

http://www.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=10582

Political winds blow strongly Democratic (subscriber content only)
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:57 PM
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1. yeah, baby.....
keep the momentum going.

this is where the dems have failed us in the recent past....i hope they have learned their lesson. when you have the repubs on the ground you have to keep kicking them and finish them off.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:59 PM
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2. He can't go much lower - can he?
There is a contingent out there who would vote for a frisbee if it had an (R) next to its name.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:15 PM
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13. Its ABB _ I would vote for this


even though it has the R (circled) after its name before I would support Bush* The above pictured would make better decisions thn Bush*, that is certain.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:21 PM
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16. LOL - way to have a frisbee pic laying around
:toast:
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:59 PM
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3. Wolfie's CNNI poll results on Sunday were delicious
84% said Bush had not answered question regarding his military record.
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2004Donkeys Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:02 PM
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6. Don't trust internet polls
The scientific polls show 3/4ths of this country don't care what may or may not have happened 32 years ago. The people that do care were already going to vote for Kerry.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:08 PM
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10. I will tell yuo which segment cares
the National Security voter and military families

Yuo will not hear much from the latter, (UCMJ and all) but when time to vote comes there is nothing any military person, veteran or relative dispises more than somebody who shirked his duty... guess what? Bush shirked his duty... and now he is asking people to do far more than their duty... this is not going well among that group of voters.

Oh and the internet polls are interesting anyways
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:38 PM
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27. Goldbricks always got theirs.
We had a thing called a "blanket Party." During the night you and your fellow servicemen would throw a blanket over the sleeping goldbricking soldier, hold the blanket down and beat the crap out of him. the blanket holds him down, and prevents him from seeing who did the beating.

goldbricks on the battlefield get their buddies killed.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:17 PM
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14. Internet polls aren't quantum physics
but purple-haired retiree voters don't necessarily know that. I've enjoyed seeing Wolfie undermined by his own dumb polls each Sunday.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:20 PM
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15. Welcome to DU.
Oddly, most Americans do care if the President is a lying, sleazy POS.

I mean, that was the excuse for impeaching Clinton, wasn't it? And nobody died because he lied about about a blow job.

When George lies, Americans fill body bags.
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2004Donkeys Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:25 PM
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18. Don't get me wrong, lying about WMD is very important
WMDs may just be what it takes to put Kerry in the White House if the economy is not too bad.

But questions about who did what 30+ years ago is not going to sway the public one way or the other.

P.S Thank you for your welcome. I've been here for a few days and I like the reasoned debate we can have here (which I believe will be the saving grace of the Democratic Party and the lack of openness will be the demise of the Republican Party).
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:22 PM
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31. It already is swaying parts of the public !
The thing is that Bush dresses in fatigues and dances around an air craft carrier all the while knowing he lounged his way through the Vietnam war. Now every knows what a hypocritical pos he really is. I doubt he will call himself a war president anymore nor will he act like he is a military man any more. The voting public is laughing at him that's why his being a tough guy won't work anymore.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:28 PM
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32. Welcome from me, too!
We get hot about stuff. But we are delighted to have you here.

SOOOOO many new people here lately. And so few of them seem to be disruptive.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 06:06 PM
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36. Bush lies about everything. He lies incessantly and compulsively.
There is no subject so shallow, serious, or somber that Bush will not lie about it. The only other option is not to lie. And that Bush can not do.

Bush is a liar on steroids.

Everyone except Bush himself knows where he was during his Guard service and the Bush administration did not reveal the identity of a CIA operative but the White House is cooperating with the 9/11 commission since democrats support terrorism and are not good Americans just as the Jews were not good Germans and government spending has gone down if you do not count the increased government spending but the boxes were labeled "Made in USA" even though the $400 billion decorative medicare turkey was not labeled $525 billion and Bush's plane to Baghdad was spotted because before Saddam bought the uranium and became an urgent but not imminent threat Bush had no plans on his desk to invade Iraq since the aircraft carrier was too far offshore for the Navy to make a large enough banner to describe the WMD we have found in Iraq some of which could hit the US and some of which Saddam was giving to Osama for following Saddam's plans and using Iraqi hijackers on 9/11 but everyone got a tax cut which allowed Iraqi oil revenue to pay for the cost of the reconstruction of Iraq after the invasion by a small number of troops who would be greeted with floral program related activities because Bush and Rice did not ignore the August 6, 2001 intelligence briefing warning of the upcoming 9/11 attacks and Bush is offended by special interest contributions to Kerry because Bush believes fund raising hurts good government and that is why Bush wrote the poem that he did not write blaming Laura for dropping the dog.

Ridiculing Bush over his incessant lying needs to become commonplace.


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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:28 PM
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22. Where is this 'scientific' poll??

Please do tell.

Where is the 'scientific' poll that shows that 75% don’t think it matters Bush is lying about his military record??




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2004Donkeys Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:33 PM
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24. Sorry it was 66 percent, not 75 percent (link here)
From the ABC News poll that showed Kerry up by 8.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2004/feb/13bush.htm
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:54 PM
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34. the reason they didn't care
is because the CORPORATE MEDIA NEVER TOLD THEM. Now they are finally talking.
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NeonLX Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 01:59 PM
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4. Still too high, but going in the right direction.
One of these days, I might actually become optimistic.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:14 PM
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11. You're right...
My unscientfic poll has Bush* at forty percent and falling!.
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2004Donkeys Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:01 PM
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5. I think these job fears have more to do with leading indicators
Unemployment is going down, but Americans don't expect that to last like they did in December.

Look at the stalled stock market and rising oil prices.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:05 PM
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8. unemployment isnt going down
more ppl are simply giving up on the job search and using up their unemployment benefits

more ppl are still without jobs than before
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2004Donkeys Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:14 PM
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12. Are you sure about that?
Unemployment went down 0.1% and labor market participation went up in January.

This is why I believe the leading indicators are driving sentiment against Bush, as well as it should.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:25 PM
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19. Bogus numbers...
You aren't counted if you are not looking for a job or receiving unemployment benefits. Tons of people simply have used all benefits and have given up looking for any job, they are conveniently no longer included in the labor market numbers. It's a BAD job market!
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:43 PM
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28. So true
When the unemployment number rose, Labor secretary Elaine Chao said the high number was a positive thing - it meant people knew the jobs were back and that drew them back into the market. Of course, now we're hearing the low number is a positive thing.:shrug:
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:27 PM
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20. Consumer confidence dropping also may be a factor
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:22 PM
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17. Unemployment is NOT going down.
Keep trying, though.
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2004Donkeys Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:28 PM
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21. Keep trying what?
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Speed8098 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:29 PM
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30. You're going to find
That some people might be a little snippy.

They don't mean anything personal. We've had an influx of freepers lately, so when someone mentions things like unemployment going down, people tend to be suspicious.

The fact is, unemployment is not going down. As other posters have said, when the benefits end, they are not counted as unemployed.

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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 06:11 PM
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37. "some people might be a little snippy." True.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:02 PM
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7. I wish someone would do a dead girl/live boy survey...
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 02:03 PM by AZCat
So we could get an idea of the size of his "core" voter block.

Edit: clarity
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:08 PM
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9. Coming soon....Osama found in cave
Something big is going to happen, especially if *'s numbers dip into the low 40's.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:28 PM
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23. Gallup: 51%, 50.99%, 50.95%, 50.875%, 50.821%, 50.8047%,
50.782%..................................................................
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:37 PM
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26. Yikes...
Is Gallup implying that 50% is a strike point? You know, point of no return? I guess they figure there might be a couple more months of wiggle room left.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 02:34 PM
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25. I dont get it..why arent more polled concerned about the war?
did they all buy the lies hook line and sinker? my god, how can they be so blind about over 500 dead and so many wounded and damaged?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:56 PM
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35. sadly, Mari
a lot of people - I would say most of them, don't care until it AFFECTS THEM. The fact is, the general public has not been asked to sacrifice for this war.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 06:34 PM
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38. Most people do not follow politics or the war.
They just assume that whoever happens to be president must be doing an okay job or he wouldn't be president in the first place. They also assume that the president knows much more than they do so perhaps they are not in a position to criticize. Finally, they have a strong resistance to the idea that their president or their country would do evil things. Bush benefits greatly from all three of these phenomena, but they apply to every president.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:14 PM
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29. Sad: more than half approve irresponsible fiscal and tax policies, pre-emp
tive wars, an assault on the environment, and worker rights and safety. Should we the people vote him into office for another four years, hopefully no one will bemoant the inevitable fate in store for us as a nation and us as a people.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:49 PM
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33. May it keep heading downward...
It appears that at least a few of the sheeple are stirring to consciousness after a long sleep.

Let's hope that they *all* wake up!
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