Democrats must "smell the blood"

[worldgonekrazy]

The neo-cons are in some pretty serious trouble. Bush's popularity is plummeting and will only get worse as the following stories/events play out:

1. The continuation of the AWOL story.

2. The Plame/Wilson affair investigation, which is rumored to be leading to indictments of key members of Cheney's staff, including his Chief of Staff (whose last name is Libby, oh so close to Liddy, how perfect is that?).

3. The investigation into pre-Iraq war intelligence. Yeah, the Admin will try to blame the CIA but I don't think the public will buy it. They don't remember the CIA saying "we are sure they have WMD's and we know where they are," they remember the Bush Admin saying that.

4. Possibly the investigation into Frist's office over the Republicans stealing strategy memos from the Democrats. This one is unlikely though as I suspect they used the cover of the so called "Ricin scare" to scrub any damaging records.

5. The likelihood that gas and energy prices will go through the roof this summer. OPEC just recently cut production by a million barrels a day, and the oil isn't exactly flowing freely out of Iraq.

6. The ongoing disaster that is the Iraq War.

But here is the real kicker: THE PRESS HAS CLEARLY TURNED ON HIM IN A BIG, BIG WAY. I believe they were simply waiting for when the time was right (i.e., when his poll numbers dropped sufficiently) and that time is right. They will now move in for the kill. They have realized, just as everyone else is beginning to, that they have been duped and played by this administration, and they aren't happy about it.

Even Bill O'Reilly publicly apologized for supporting the Iraq War the other day. That tells me that he thinks the tide is changing and wants to make sure he doesn't become irrelevant.

So it is time for Democrats to smell the blood and move in for the kill. Not the killing of the Republican party (for that would be unreasonable to expect), but the killing of the neo-cons and their insanely dark agenda.

I'm not talking about just getting George W. Bush out of office. That is, baring a MAJOR unforeseen circumstance, a foregone conclusion. Even the capture of bin Laden cannot save W. now in my opinion.

I'm talking about smashing the Bush family name in a way that Jeb will never get near the White House, and hopefully will be thrown out (or at least voted out in a few years) of the Governor's office in Florida.

I'm talking about bringing down all of Bush's neo-con enablers in the Senate and the House. This would accomplish the dual goals of getting these insane people out of power AND giving the Democrats back the Senate and making serious inroads in the House.

Let's do it. I'm not saying we should lose focus of the Presidential race or become complacent in our assured victory, but we MUST take the fight to the House and Senate battles as well. George W. did that in 2002 and got some decent results, but this time the groundswell will be much more intense AND legitimate.

Are you with me?

P.S. And if the voting machines are rigged, we just have to make it so obvious by blatant inconsistencies between the polls and actual results that people DO SOMETHING about it.


On edit: I forgot to add the following items to my list of things that are going to bring Bush down:

7. The 9/11 Commission: even though it will be somewhat of a whitewash, it still seems like it will hit the Admin pretty hard. And, as I point out in a post below, I believe that the commission's findings could also help to brunt the force of a bin Laden capture.

8. The economy: No matter how much the Bush Admin says it is rebounding, the statistics say otherwise.

[lancdem]

1. And now the economy might be worsening

Consumer confidence just took a sharp drop.

[worldgonekrazy]

5. Oh yeah, I totally did a brainfart on the economy

Nobody believes those asinine predictions of "3 million jobs created this year."

[Brian Sweat]

23. We don't call him Double Dip Dubya for nothing.

Of is it tripple dip now?

[aldian159]

2. It's not over yet

but it does look very good

[Poiuyt]

15. I'm still worried

We need to remember that bush hasn't started his campaign yet. And we all know that bush is the meanest, most unethical person in the world when it comes to campaigning (and everything else). From leaking lies to Drudge and Limbaugh to negative push polling...it doesn't matter if it's true. Some of it will stick.

Yes, things look good now, but we need to keep the pressure on. Let's hope the press keeps asking the right questions. We need to contact the press and let them know that we want answers for these questions. They will give us what we want because that is what drives their ratings. That will be our key to victory.

[RobertSeattle]

3. Good Post. The coming realization that Bush is a FRAUD

Michael Moore' rant at the Oscar is being shown to be true.

[worldgonekrazy]

6. I predict approval ratings in the 30's by November

Maybe even lower.

Perhaps I am missing something, but it seems like he really can't have anything else up his sleave. Another terrorist attack would only convince people that he CAN'T defend the country.

Osama bin Laden may well be captured and is probably his so-called Ace-in-the-hole, but he will have to use it sooner than he would prefer because the shit is hitting the fan in such a big way. If they wait until October like I originally thought they would it will be way too late.

[Sagan]

4. I agree that the Dems must stay active..

Attack Attack Attack. No more trying to take the moral high ground a la Dukakis. Attack.

We have REAL issues AND character issues to beat the neo-cons down with. We need to use them all.

[StClone]

7. Attack and Destroy

But we better be careful because Kerry once looked at a girl...lol is that the best they got...well not really I heard Big Dog's name on Rush repeatedly in the two minutes I listened.

Even stories of shark attacks won't push the overall affect of Juniors poll/vote hemorrhaging off the news.

[worldgonekrazy]

9. Exactly, and it will be a snowball effect

As more moderate Bush supporters hear more and more about Bush's free falling poll numbers they will start to ask themselves "should I be supporting Bush?" They may very well change their minds which will only add to the punative effect.

But I say it again: THIS MUST BE ABOUT THE NEO-CON AGENDA, NOT JUST BUSH! Otherwise they will come back again, as they did with Reagan, as they did with H.W. and as they did with W.

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[worldgonekrazy]

18. A friend of mine said the other night about the "Kerry Affair":

We were talking about why it hasn't gotten into the corporate (or established) media. The obvious answer is that it is a lie, but my friend had another theory:

"Maybe the press is supressing it to prop up Kerry because they hate W so much."

I don't think its true, but then again it would not really surprise me if it was. They do love a good controversy, but they've already got that with the AWOL thing AND their hatred for Bush is beginning to become quite apparent.

[sherifffruitfly]

8. mostly right - one major lacuna.....

how to put this delicately (sensitive moderators n all).....

um, the american public is bunch of idiots.

there are numerous proofs of this, but the most enlightening is the fact that bush actually got to be president...

(before ranting about florida election stealing, convince yourself that that's actually irrelevant)...

some consequences of american idiocy:

(1) if osama is caught/killed, bush will win the election - not even close.....

(2) tho things look good for the dems right now, that can change in a heartbeat - idiots are good at changing their minds for the most myterious of reasons.... especially when the republicans, who have a vested interest in american idiocy, start throwing more lies out there....

other than that, and the econ stuff you forgot, i agree - we do have a strong hand to play....

cdj

[worldgonekrazy]

10. Americans get it right in the end

That is what I am banking on. Yeah, they are a stupid people in that they will go along with just about anything initially, but we almost always come to see our mistakes and correct them accordingly. Its a long process that takes years to play out (say, four years perhaps?), but it will happen, and sooner rather than latter, IMO.

And I disagree about bin Laden. First of all, I think the damage to Bush is getting to be pretty severe to the point where he must trot out bin Laden right now if he has him (which leaves him for nothing in the future). If they wait until October I think it will be far, far too late.

But more importantly, if Bush catches bin Laden I believe the press will start throwing out the idea that it was actually the Saudi's fault. The 9/11 commission (another thing I forgot!) is damning, and one needs only to turn to that to brunt the force a bin Laden capture would bring to bear.

[sherifffruitfly]

16. wish i could share your optimism....

.... but teaching experience in american universities strongly suggests to me that americans are not only getting stupider, they're doing so at an increasing rate...

no matter what the facts are, if people are dumb enuff, you can get em to vote for you.....

it's specifically on this issue that the VRWC has more-or-less won: the stupidification of america.....

hope you're right tho, and not me.... :)

cdj

[worldgonekrazy]

19. I've heard that, but I don't think its true

I think Americans are generally getting SMARTER, as trends in I.Q. test scores show (relative to past tests...the average is always 100, but what was 100 a century ago would be roughly 120 now).

I think the issue is that we haven't been paying attention, and its no wonder what with the age of information bombardment and, more critically, the need for EVERYTHING to be entertaining.

But I think America is getting to the point where people are realizing that if they don't pay attention shit might just blow up in their face. For the past two decades the feeling has been that things are fine and will continue to be that way no matter who is elected...but it is becoming increasingly apparent that it isn't true.

[sherifffruitfly]

21. rofl

i've seen it.

americans are f-in STUPID

more, they revel in being stupid - like pigs in sh-t....

look at television, movies, and other forms of entertainment

the SAT movie? lol - gimme a break

all the other movies involving the attaining of high office without putting in the required work/developing the necessary talent (legally blonde?)

a year ago, i was teaching (university) college kids how to add fractions.... lol - i love teaching, but that's just asinine....

there's all sorts of measure of stupidity/educatedness - I haven't heard of one that puts americans high at all

kansas? georgia? anti-evolution? lol - the only place religion is winning the science wars is in america.....

i suspect it is a correct kernal of what the neocons hate about the f-in hippies - their anti-education/science stance.... and then the south goes right along in the same idiotic mold, consistently shooting themselves in their collective foot just cuz they hate blacks/can't admit they were wrong about racism..... (damn lbj was prescient.....)

lol - ok - i'm done ranting.....

cdj

[Terran]

17. I think you overestimate the impact of a bin Laden capture

We saw how much Saddam's capture did for bush; I don't think people will really see bin laden's capture as anything that helps them personally. And Bush hasn't exactly been real big on the idea himself for a long time. He's said at least twice that "I have no idea" when he'll be found--doesn't sound like he's counting on it anytime soon.

On the other hand, you are right about the American public, or roughly half of it, anyway.

[sherifffruitfly]

20. osama hit us; saddam didn't....

mebbe i am overestimating his value, but it's not obvious that this is so.....

i think it was predictable that saddam's capture had little effect for bush - he never did anything to us, and he wasn't the threat that bush claimed....

quite the opposite with osama - he reached out over 3000 miles and killed 3000 americans (stupid or not, they are my countrymen....)

so other than the fact that they're both middle eastern, i don't see a lot of similarity between them.....

cdj

[alittlelark]

22. Didn't Osama deny involvement in 9-11?

The day after it happened. Why would he do that if he was really responsible? He said that he respected those who did it and that Allah was happy and all that..... But he said he was not involved with it. The only time he said he 'did it' was on that grainy tape with the 1 legged guy - and that vid was considered by international intelligence to be a fraud.

Am I right about this?
If so, I don't think they want Osama alive.

[Terran]

28. OK, for one thing...

All 3000 dead on 9/11/01 were not American; not by a long shot.

I just think that capturing OBL is too little way too late to have a major impact. Compared to the horrible economy, our people getting blown away in Iraq, and the mountain of scandal that bush has to deal with, I doubt it will mean much to many people.

[Bozita]

11. It's starting to smell a lot like 1973

I'll never forget that aroma.

[9215]

12. The strenth of loyalty of the fascisti bruderschweigen will

determine how long it will take to bring Bush down. If one of them jumps ship who has inside info then BOOM!

Maybe cop a plea, hee, hee, hee! :bounce: :bounce:

[littlejoe]

14. The fact is that we are going to have to get mad dog mean, if

we are going to win this thing. We are going to have to attack relentlessly, like pit bulls, never easing up.

We know how Bush is capable of campaigning. He's the dirtiest campaigner in modern history. We saw how his machine unmercifully and ruthlessly shredded McCain's candidacy four years ago. So we know what to expext when Bush unleashes his 200 million plus dollars on us.

We not only have to be ready for it, but we are going to have to exceed the dirty tactics Bush uses against us. We can not afford to take the high road.

[Woodstock]

24. Good list - add these

the devaluation of the dollar

the possible housing bubble bursting

the trade deficit

the national deficit

plunging consumer confidence

underemployment or employment for lower wages

outsourcing (Bush admin. not only did nothing to stop/slow it - and they could have - but actually said it was good for us)

small business admin. freezing loans

the Patriot Act - loss of civil liberties

our unprotected computer systems for electrical grids, etc. (for instance, just altering the chlorine level in water could poison water)

our unprotected chemical plants, etc.

our unprotected ports

most Americans are pro-choice but Bush is anti-choice

most Americans want separation of church and state but Bush is all but sponsoring a state religion

[DinahMoeHum]

25. Tee hee. "Fins to the left, fins to the right. . ."

and * is the only bait in town.


:evilgrin:

[kaitykaity]

26. Agreed.

It had to be a perfect storm for media whores and the pink tutu Democrats to overcome their fear of retribution a la Plame, O'Neill, etc., etc., at the hands of these thugs.

The media whores can still be lead around by the nose, i.e., the Kerry intern nonstory, but my faith has grown in the Democrats. I hope it's not misplaced.

[Pegleg Thd]

27. The only way to beat the rove/bushit cabal is to constantly attack

them like a pack of wolves on fresh kill.
Someone at the doctor's office last week said we need to treat the bush bunch like road kill--keep running over them until there is nothing left..

[ArkDem]

29. The election is already over.

They don't stand a chance.