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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:58 PM
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History Lesson
I was reminded this morning about a bit of history from the days of Woodrow Wilson.

Women had been fighting for the right to vote since 1847. The Senate Demorcats voted many times to deny women that right.

It took women 72 years of marching, fighting, educating and dying before they got the right to vote.

Question?

Why would any of us who are supportive of real change, be surprised that a very high percentage of the old, white, men who sit at the top of our party want to see the status quo continue?

Fighting for change takes commitment, risk at not being popular, and lots of time.

It takes guts to stand up to the lemmings, and hang in with your candidate.


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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:07 PM
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1. The Democratic Party of 1847 is not the Democratic Party of 2004
Things change. :shrug: Hopefully we all grow and become wiser.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:28 PM
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2. I have lived long enough to see history repeat
itself.

And it ain't pretty.

I marched and protested with my kids in strollers the Vietnam War.

I am sick every day thinking about the wasted lives for this horrible horrible war in Iraq.



For goodness sake, the Democrats have been SPINELESS the last 3 1/2 years. It was fear that caused most Democrats to vote with Bush.
Fear of lossing votes, fear of being unAmerican, fear of their own shadows.

Gephardt, Kerry, Lieberman, Edwards completely without creative thinking until they got into the thick of the primary and then they found their voices.

It makes me sick.




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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:51 PM
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3. History trivia: Who was the first woman to vote in an official
US government vote?
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:20 PM
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4. Please tell us who that was.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 03:04 PM
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6. Hint: who was the first teenager to vote in an official US voting
type of situation....
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 06:31 PM
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7. and the first two non-whites.......
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 09:48 PM
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10. ~sigh~ Still no takers? Okay, no peeking....
an official government expedition, if it votes on anything, is holding an official election on that topic. In 1803, the Lewis & Clark expedition voted on several matters while on the trail. One example was the matter of where to winter over at the mouth of the Columbia. It was recorded that both Sacajawea and York had a vote in these matters, so the first woman (and the first teenager) to vote in an official US election was Sacajawea.
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John BigBootay Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:20 PM
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5. Nothing worthwhile comes easy--
You have to change the minds of the PEOPLE of America before you can expect their representatives to follow suit. They go where the votes are, pure and simple.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 06:48 PM
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8. takes longer than one election cycle
You have to be willing to let a generation or even two after you reap the benefits of your labor in order to be long-term successful. It's what the pugs did.

Julie
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 06:48 PM
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9. It took something like 75 years
for them to kill the ERA. We've never ratified the right of women to be equal citizens.

I truly believe the current crowd of neocons wants to turn the clock back to the McKinley era in all respects. Ironically, they want to undo the regulations on capitalism put in place by a Republican President (not to mention his creation of the National Park System).

Republicans may give lip service to Teddy Roosevelt, but they hate his legacy almost as much as they hate his cousin Franklin's.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 10:09 PM
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11. power surrenders nothing without a struggle - Frederick Douglass


hbo is doing a piece - Iron Jawed Angels - on Alice Paul

http://www.hbo.com/films/ironjawedangels/cast/characters/alicepaul.html

see also...
http://www.alicepaul.org

peace
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