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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 05:58 PM
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Joe diGenova says the Plame leak isn't a crime unless the leaker
knew the Plame was an operative when he passed the information and the leaker knew it because of his own security clearance. In other words (as I understood Joe) if the leaker was just someone who knew about Plame's being an operative because of water cooler gossip and did not have a clearance then no crime was committed. If on the other hand the leaker had a security clearance of his own and obtained the Plame information because of the security clearance then a crime was committed.

Joe doesn't understand how there can be an investigation when there is no evidence that there was a crime. (Don't try to get your mind around that argument, your head might explode.) The point is that Joe is preparing the media defense of the traitor. When the traitor is outed all we are going to hear about is how that individual didn't know of Plame's occupation due to a security clearance, therefore, no crime.

The easy question is if there was no crime why hasn't the traitor come clean? The real crime may be in the cover-up, perjury, lying to investigators etc.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:00 PM
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1. Or unless the leaker is a Democrat, in which case, we'd have
a $50MM taxpayer funded commission to find the Democrat terrorist and charge him with treason.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:03 PM
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2. he is correct
that's the way the law is written.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:05 PM
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4. Joe diGenova and his wife can still kiss my liberal progressive ass!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:05 PM
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3. Joe diGenova needs to keep to his FAUX News crowd...
Not too much difference between O'Rielly, Hannity, or Rush.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:35 PM
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5. Joe needs to read this.....
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:38 PM
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6. nothing in there
refutes the simple fact that Novak broke no law.

Only people who

a) have AUTHORIZED knowledge of an operative's identity or
b) engage in a pattern of behavior designed to out operatives

are guilty of violating the law.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:43 PM
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7. Did Jane Fonda break any law?
She is labled a Traitor all the time by the Right. All she did was try and stop an illegal war. These people outed a CIA agent. Law or not they are guilty of Treason.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:45 PM
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8. No they are not...
Treason is very specifically defined in the constitution.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:47 PM
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9. Whaaaaa?
Broke no Law? First off the White House gave a reporter the name of a CIA covert agent....and then after being told not to publish the name Novack does it anyway. Heads my frien are going to roll!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:48 PM
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11. Please tell me what law Novak broke
it certainly wasn't the Intelligence Agents Identities Act.

Someone in the White House, though, may well have broken that law.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 06:48 PM
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10. Someone with clearance
had to get the information first and pass it on to the unsuspecting WH operative. Someone in the chain of command, outed a CIA agent and committed a felony.

Besides wouldn't most high level WH staff have the security clearance required to be privy to that sort of information?

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