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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:04 PM
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AP has been contacting people in AWOL's unit and no one remembers him
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=7&u=/ap/20040212/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_military_records

White House Offers No More on Bush Service

WASHINGTON - The White House hardened its defense of President Bush (news - web sites)'s National Guard service Wednesday, saying his critics are "trolling for trash." Yet, several members of an Alabama unit Bush was assigned to said they couldn't recall ever seeing him.


The Associated Press contacted more than a dozen people who were members of the Montgomery-based 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in 1972. All were quick to point out that the unit had as many as 800 members and Bush was not yet famous.


Bush, who spent most of his service in Texas, received permission to perform his duties in Alabama while working on a family friend's political campaign.


"I don't remember seeing him. That does not mean he was not here," said Wayne Rambo, who was a first lieutenant with the 187th. "I don't want to cast any aspersions or to say he was or was not there."

...more in the story about the disposal of Bush's records

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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:06 PM
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1. So Chimpy has lots of company when it comes to bad memories, eh..
(Yeah, I know it's a non sequitor)
:evilgrin:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:07 PM
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2. The story has an image of the Pay Stub!
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:16 PM
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5. If you get up and walk about 10 feet back from the monitor, that image
looks a little like OBL.

;-)
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:08 PM
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3. That is sad. You would think at least somebody would lie
And say they remember him just to save his ass...
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:14 PM
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4. I can't believe somebody hasn't offered to do it for some serious $$$$!
Hey, wait a minnit, I was in the ANG back then...
hmmmmmmmmmmm
What's Rove's phone number?...

:evilgrin:
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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:45 PM
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6. Congressman's son ...

You would remember if a Congressman's son was in your unit. Especially since units tend to go drinking together and Bush REALLY LIKED the drink!!!!

If Bush KNEW any of his guard mates, he could probably get one to cover for him. Bush's affable personality is reportedly unforgetable. Bush has no buddies from that unit. It seems like he NEVER showed up.


Let's not forget the TRUE crime here. He failed to report for his physical AND ... he wasted taxpayer money by sluffing his duty after Uncle Sam paid a LOT of money to train him ... AND ... He accepted money for work that he didn't do (THEFT, FRAUD)!!!!


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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:23 PM
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9. If your a congressman's son you get special treatment
Once they get over the rank of brigadier general they are 1/2 politician. The pressure of military appropriations dominate the job the military brass really does at that point.

If Bush was in the ranks and the son of a congressman he was given wide birth and privilege to do about any thing he wanted.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:07 PM
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7. My experience is that in a unit that size,
every swinging Richard, O's and E's alike, would know who amongst them was the son of a:

Congressman, Senator

Governor, State Legislator

General, Bird Colonel

Movie/TV star.

If Radar knows, everybody knows, and Radar handles the paper. Shrub's 201 file probably had stapled to it a big ol' CONGRESSIONAL flag, all diagonal and green, as I recall.

And the command staff absolutely know who's who; its a factor in survival.




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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:34 PM
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14. When I was in the Okla ANG, one of my buds was the son of the Okla
ANG Commander, General V*****. He (the son) was a totally nice guy and never made a thing of it, but through no fault of his own everyone and I mean everyone -knew- who he was. But he got in the same way I did, waited on line until there was a vacancy (we joined at the same time.)

Apropos of not much, his pop the General was also an extremely good guy, he would sit down & play poker with us in the evening during summer 'camp' (at Keesler.)

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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:19 PM
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8. I met a guy who went to school with Bush
He said it was easy as hell to pick him out of a crowd. He used to see him in the halls of the school. He said "Just look for the little Whimp ass who was scared of every one". No kidding.

I find it hard to beleive no one remembers Bush
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waywest Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:28 PM
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11. Imagine *'s stories to grandkids......

....Yeah, that was one tough teller. She wanted TWO forms of I.D. and still tried to sign me up fer a xmas club before she would cash that check.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:30 PM
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12. I met a girl in Austin, TX...
who went to Austin HS with Jenna and Barbara, and she said she saw Bush in a bathrobe and underwear several times dropping the girls off at school. (highly speculative report)
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:28 PM
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10. No one saw him dancing naked on bar stools in Alabama!
He was well known for doing this in the Houston area with the "Champagne Unit". That proves it for me! :)


At the Republican National Convention in 1988, he was asked by a Hartford Courant reporter about what he and his father talked about when they weren't talking about politics.

"PUSSY," Bush replied.


What a good born-again!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:31 PM
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13. A lot of other people in Alabama remember him
He doesn't seem like the kind of guy you'd forget easily…

http://www.southerner.net/blog/awolbush.html

They also remember Bush's stories about how the New Haven, Connecticut police always let him go, after he told them his name, when they stopped him "all the time" for driving drunk as a student at Yale in the late 1960s. Bush told this story to others working in the campaign "what seemed like a hundred times," says Red Blount's nephew C. Murphy Archibald, now an attorney in Charlotte, N.C., who also worked on the Blount campaign and said he had "vivid memories" of that time.

"He would laugh uproariously as though there was something funny about this. To me, that was pretty memorable, because here he is, a number of years out of college, talking about this to people he doesn't know," Archibald said. "He just struck me as a guy who really had an idea of himself as very much a child of privilege, that he wasn't operating by the same rules."

(snip)

Many of those who came into close contact with Bush say he liked to drink beer and Jim Beam whiskey, and to eat fist-fulls of peanuts, and Executive burgers, at the Cloverdale Grill. They also say he liked to sneak out back for a joint of marijuana or into the head for a line of cocaine. The newspapers that year are full of stories about the scourge of cocaine from Vietnam and China, much of it imported by the French. (Remember the French Connection?)
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 11:14 PM
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15. Ambitious officers would find and curry favor with Congressional boy.
Hotshots would be trying to best him. HQ would be aflutter. Congressman's boy would get lots of attention, perhaps special treatment/special protection. That's my bet.
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