[LIHOP] FAA knew plane hijacked, had Atta's name&seat #, long before crash

[scottxyz]

Turns out the FAA got LOTS of information from observant flight attendants very early on 9/11 - and, in violation of law and standard operating procedures, didn't do anything with it. NORAD sat on its hands, no planes were scrambled - the entire East Coast air defense system just did NOTHING.

American’s Flight 11 took off from Logan Airport in Boston at 7:59 a.m. By 8:14 a.m., the F.A.A. controller following that flight from a facility in Nashua, N.H., already knew it was missing; its transponder had been turned off, and the controller couldn’t get a response from the pilots.

. . .

At least 20 minutes before the plane crashed, the airline had the names, addresses, phone numbers and credit cards of three of the five hijackers. They knew that 9G was Abdulaziz al-Omari, 10B was Satam al-Suqami, and 9D was Mohamed Atta—the ringleader of the 9/11 terrorists.

"The nightmare began before the first plane crashed," said Mike Sweeney, "because once my wife gave the seat numbers of the hijackers and Michael Woodward pulled up the passenger information, Mohamed Atta’s name was out there. They had to know what they were up against."

http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage1.asp

For over an hour, these planes headed towards their civilian targets - exactly as predicted by the 9 urgent intel memos which had been passed on to Bush & Condi.

Bush calmly sat in a Florida kindergarten reading a children's book to the class.

NORAD did nothing as these missiles did exactly what the CIA had told Bush they would - giving him his "Trifecta" - his Reichstag Fire - so he could suspend the Constitution and wage pre-emptive war.

The ONLY way this all makes sense is if we consider Cheney's secret plans to invade Iraq, and PNAC's statement that without a new "Pearl Harbor" there would be no support for such a war.

Put 2 and 2 together. Remember Member of Parliament Meacher's article from the Guardian, which ties it all together:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html

[aquart]

1. God knows I don't want to be devil's advocate for those...murderers., but

To pin it down, you need to be specific about "they." Who was in possession of this info and how did it travel.

You need to establish the chain of possession. Who is Michael Woodward? Does he have access to lists of suspected terrorists? See what I mean?

You have to prove the info GOT to the hands of the people who knew what it meant, in time, and they did nothing.

Which I absolutely believe is what they did. Nothing.

May they never sleep.

[KC]

2. I'd like

to know why that flight was originally delayed. From 7:11 to 7:59am, what was going on?


..Sweeney’s first call from the plane was at 7:11 a.m. on Sept. 11—the only call in which she displayed emotional upset. Flight 11 was delayed, and she seized the few moments to call home in hopes of talking to her 5-year-old daughter, Anna, to say how sorry she was not to be there to put her on the bus to kindergarten.Ms. Sweeney’s son Jack had been born several months premature, and she had taken the maximum time off over the previous summer to be with her children. "But she had to go back that fall, to hold the Boston-to-L.A. trip," explained her husband.

American’s Flight 11 took off from Logan Airport in Boston at 7:59 a.m.

[SoFlaJets]

3. Sickening

isn't it?They KNEW they wanted this to happen and I am one of those that predicted that the Bush cabal would as i said then"nuke US"for political gain.There our president sits in a classroom reading to second graders and Chey is pulled into an underground bunker.Remember that Jeb Bush issued a state of emergency and called up the national Guard on September 7th down here.Amazing-tell me they didn't know.

[RBHam]

4. Alot more is surfacing than I thought would.

It was a massive undertaking - there were bound to be loose threads and contradictory evidence.

The main question is this : when is CNN going to start covering the 9-11 commission's findings, and stop obsessing over Janet's mammaries.

Another question is : How are they gonna whitewash all these bombshells before the American public finds out?

[ixion]

5. there are inconsistencies even in this report

there is evidence that flights AA11 and AA77 did not even fly that day;
also,

The hi-jackers names did not appear on the original passenger manifest.

just a note...

[KC]

6. I

remember noticing that right after the passenger lists came out.

KC

[4dsc]

9. Not according to this..

http://www.marsearthconnection.com/manifests.html

There seems to be some confusion as to why the hijackers names don't appear on the passenger manifests. There are several theories floating around, one being that they weren't on the planes, at all. I had seen the original and complete passenger manifests, several weeks ago, before the hijackers names had been removed so I knew they were included. I wanted to find out why they'd been removed so I did a bit of checking.

I, also, found the complete passenger manifest, which includes the hijackers names...

I found references regarding the fact that there had been a complete list with their names on it, at one time. It came out on the 13th of September and The Boston Globe reported having it..they, too, have since removed the hijackers names. They do state, however, that it is a 'partial list'..."Partial lists of those killed in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to family members, friends, co-workers and law enforcement."

[TomNickell]

7. Is the Full Moon out?

Just checking.

[Rose Siding]

8. Here's another bit that SHOULD be front pg everywhere

snip>
....But commissioners were unaware of the crucial information given in an even more revealing phone call, made by another heroic flight attendant on the same plane, Madeline (Amy) Sweeney. They were unaware because their chief of staff, Philip Zelikow, chooses which evidence and witnesses to bring to their attention. Mr. Zelikow, as a former adviser to the pre-9/11 Bush administration, has a blatant conflict.
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The evidence is CHERRY picked by a bush politico! I had no idea that the commissioners weren't going over EVERYTHING themselves.

And later in this piece, Sciavo mentions, incidental to the article that the NTSB isn't even doing a crash investigation, so the standards regarding timing are even lower for this than for other air disasters.

Unbelievably screwed up.

One of the wives has an excellent point about Bush's reaction (that's one bad pilot) His lie is so obvious that the investigation into his dereliction of duty could begin and end right there.