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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:39 PM
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Help!-A co-worker said"what's the difference between Bush & Clinton
Edited on Wed Feb-11-04 12:40 PM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
in regards to not serving in Vietnam?"
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:41 PM
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1. Bush is a jerk
Clinton had a strong belief.
Bush wanted to drink and hang out. He had/has no belief system.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:42 PM
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2. The difference:
Clinton wasn't drafted, so wasn't required to go. Bush* joined the NG and didn't go when ordered.
Clinton wasn't obligated. Bush* was.
Big difference.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:42 PM
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3. two things
bush didn't even fufill his draft-dodging obligations

clinton didn't start a unilateral, preemptive war
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:43 PM
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4. Clinton registered for the draft but drew a high number
so never served. He was opposed to the War, but entered the draft process anyways.

Bush* entered the Champagne Unit of the Texas National Guard. Everyone knew back then that rich kids escaped deployment to Vietnam via the National Guard. The real problem was when he trasferred to the Alabama National Guard, and did not show up for a year. No one remembers seeing him.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:44 PM
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5. Here it is:
Clinton took a deferment to study at Oxford. When he returned, he signed up for the draft and received a high number (by lottery, NOT fixing), so he was never called.

Bush got into the Texas Air National Guard over 500 more qualified applicants because of his father's pull, trained as a pilot despite doing poorly on the test, had the U.S. spend $1,000,000 on his training, then he was grounded for failing to take a physical. And he didn't show up for at least 9 months of his 'service'.

The difference is in the fix. Chimpy's daddy pulled all kinds of strings to make sure Junior didn't go to Vietnam. And Chimp wasted a cool million of taxpayer's money by deserting after he was trained (on a plane that was outdated, BTW).
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:44 PM
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6. Clinton is not running for election and Bush is.
Clinton never lied about his activities, Bush has.
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kerouac Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:44 PM
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7. Easy..
Edited on Wed Feb-11-04 12:45 PM by kerouac
Clinton was in school AND he opposed the war publicly.

Shrub had his dad get him into the National Guard ahead of more qualified people, failed to pass medical tests, willfully missed duty and left early -- AND publicly supported the war.

Clinton: Legal and stuck to his principles by saying nobody should be dying at all.

Bush: Illegal and supported that others die in his place.




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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:44 PM
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8. Well, for starters, Clinton didn't...
...spend his first three years in office acting as if he had served and seen action in wartime (the "I've been to war" comment about raising twins, the carrier landing stunt, etc.)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:45 PM
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9. Bill Clinton publically opposed the war, and although he registered
for the draft, was never called up. He spent his war years as a Rhodes Scholar and earning a law degree. He may or may not have used marijuana and may or may not have inhaled.

B*sh publically supported the war in Vietnam, but used his daddy's wealth and influence to avoid serving in-country. He passed a flight aptitude test by one point, but nevertheless jumped a waiting list at least 500 names long to enter the Texas Air Nat'l Guard. He received a tax-payer-funded flight training costing upwards of 1 million dollars. He then deserted his unit for the better part of a year, and is known to have abused alcohol and cocaine.

That about says it all.
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billyf65 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:47 PM
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10. Clinton...
Never wrapped himself in the flag. He never called himself a "war president." He never pulled a stund like landing on an aircraft carrier. And Clinton was brutally scrutinized for his draft record (or to quote Carville in The War Room; "...they so much as fart the word draft, and it's all over the news..."
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:50 PM
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11. The most simple answer:
Clinton didn't do anything illegal - he opposed the war but registered for the draft.

Bush used his daddy's influence to get out of harm's way, and then didn't even fulfill his minimal obligation there.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:50 PM
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12. Clinton made his convictions clear. Bush pussyfooted...
and left the Guard to do political work in Alabama without getting it cleared in Texas.
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Options Remain Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:54 PM
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13. simple
CLINTON - avoided service altogether
BUSH - Entered service and was steered into a "safe" assignment he didnt perform.

CLINTON - avoided draft
BUSH - failed to fullfill an obligation that other people died fullfilling.

TearForger
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 01:22 PM
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14. seems from above that Clinton didn't even avoid it.
I wonder if Shrub has a conscience or did HIS Jesus tell him nothing matters?
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 01:34 PM
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16. TearForger, your statement is misleading.
CLINTON - avoided draft
See the above posts.

Clinton didnt avoid the draft. To suggest so is misleading and inaccurate.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 01:29 PM
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15. Clinton is smart and Bush* is stupid ~ Stark difference
:shrug: Sounds like your friend is just like Bush*
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