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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:36 AM
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Sorry but I have some questions about W's TANG records
I have been out of the loop the last two days prparing for a big meeting. I have to be there in about 30 minutes.

Were the employment records they miraculously found in two days from the Texas Air Guard or the Alabama Air Guard?

That is the main question I have(any information you can supply on that is much appreciated) but it leads to others.

Why would he continue to be paid by a unit at which he is not serving?

Was his request to transfer really not approved?

If he was paid by TANG but was supposed to be in Alabama does that mean that he was serving in Alabama? Is this actual proof or does it just lead to more questions.

ABC reported last night on the "Lt.Bush can not be assessed as he was not present enough during the time period" assessment from TANG. Is that fraud to not do what you are being paid to do or is that just the way National Guard units work?

:shrug:
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Another Bill C. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:44 AM
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1. According to a letter in
today's Washington Times, this is the way the National Guard works.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1108527
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:52 AM
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4. LTTE doesn't say physical is not mandatory, or that 6 months are not "made
up" by folks without pull

or that 6 months does not imply AWOL

or that the disciplinary unit assignment was not for cause.

Today on Imus he is saying that was just the way TANG worked back then - no big deal.

Sounds like AWOL has legs - and the cover up has legs!

:-)
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:46 AM
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2. The "Claim" is
that the guard turned up the records on its own after a just completed search of their records.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 09:49 AM
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3. Answers based on my reserve/NG experience
Why would he continue to be paid by a unit at which he is not serving?

This is actually completely permissible -- you simply have the unit with which you drill provide proof (now, it's a DA 1380 form) that your performed military service. This is often done if you are awaiting a transfer or, if for some reason, you are unable for a period of time to drill with your assigned unit.

Was his request to transfer really not approved?

I don't know if he did request a transfer. I think he actually just requested to perform his service through the ALANG.

If he was paid by TANG but was supposed to be in Alabama does that mean that he was serving in Alabama? Is this actual proof or does it just lead to more questions.

If he was paid by TANG, there should be paperwork from AL confirming his service for this time. I think it all leads to more questions.

ABC reported last night on the "Lt.Bush can not be assessed as he was not present enough during the time period" assessment from TANG. Is that fraud to not do what you are being paid to do or is that just the way National Guard units work?

It's supposed to be fraud. You're fully expected to perform your duty for the time you get paid. However, considering that the unit in which he got a slot was considered a safe haven for numerous Congressmen's sons and several Dallas Cowboys players, coupled with the manner in which Bush got his slot in the first place, I would think that questions of fraud would most certainly arise.

The problem I have with this whole argument is the manner in which it is being kept within "safe parameters" that actually prevent the real questions from being answered. Why did Bush get appointed to a slot in which he skipped over literally hundreds of other applicants after scoring near the bare-minimum on the flight entrance exam? Why was he granted a discharge six months prior to the end date of his six-year committment in order to attend Harvard Business School?

This last question is most certainly NOT normal procedure, and it needs to be brought up at every opportunity.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 12:15 PM
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5. Thanks
What do you think the turnaround on the paperwork from ALANG will be?

Before November? or is someone going to find them in a shoebox under their desk?

It seems that there are no concrete answers being provided by the WH.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:38 PM
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6. yeah underpants
and it is making Bush and the White House look bad . . . . really bad. As a veteran who fully served her time, it sure is fun to watch.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 05:46 PM
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7. "Is that fraud to not do what you are being paid to do"
Kind of like how he performs his current job obligation. How many days has he spent campaigning, on vacation, or at Camp David? I would bet more than he has been on the job.
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