surprise!! right-wing talk-show host furious abt reaction to AA pilot

[bobbieinok]

'This was a flight in US, a christian country.' (='so what's the problem?')

'There is a concerted plan to destroy christianity, judaism, western civiliztion, and the Bible.'

local (Tulsa OK) talk radio this morning

[ComerPerro]

1. Except, we aren't a Christian country

We are secular. This is nothing new. We have always been a secular nation.

The neo-Con fanatics always seem to forget this.

[Az]

10. A majority of the population is female

Does this make us a female nation? They keep trying to wedge their agenda in any way they can. Twist the words of the founding Fathers. Look for loopholes in the Constitution. They simply never stop. Perhaps its fear of losing their grip that drives them so.

[DFLer4edu]

23. Sound arguments have never been one of their strongpoints!

[proud patriot]

2. No there is an effort to destroy every other religion

and make Christianity the national religion here .

[wryter2000]

3. Uh,

The pilot called Jews crazy, too. How is that protecting Judaism?

[mhr]

4. Wouldn't Nationalized Christianity Be Like Nationalized Islam?

I guess the fundamentalists want us to be attacked again for becoming extremists!

[MsUnderstood]

5. I agree with Jon Stewart. . .

What is wrong with a religious zealot piloting a plane carrying American Citizens. . .hmmm?

[Az]

19. I keep asking

Should we screen out pilots of passenger planes that believe the Rapture is immenent?

[MissB]

21. Now that was funny.

Leave it to Jon Stewart to come up with the perfect line.

[Vogon_Glory]

12. And Who Would Define What Is Christian?

Anyone who cherishes religious liberty and who has done any listening at all to the religious radio stations would be instantly leery about claims regarding "Christianity." Whatever religious right wanna-be theocrats may tell the chumps in the general public about a supposed united Christian opposition to abortion, gay marriage, public schools, evolution, etc., they are far narrower as to what they define as being truly "Christian."

By many of these religious rightists' lights, over half the country isn't "Christian." I'm not just including Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Wiccans, or pagans here, but also Roman Catholics and also members of liturgical churches like the Episcopal Church, Orthodox Churches, and Lutheran churches, too.

Similarly Unitarians, Christian Scientists, and the Unity School would also be considered "non Christian" by these fanatics. So would the Latter Day Saints (And the Mormons really ought to know better than to run with the religious right, given their history.)

[boobooday]

6. Have you ever heard a more ridiculous story?

I would have been livid!!! Air Rage! That's probably what he wanted, because then he could yap about how the heathens were out of control.

Maybe they should just form their own Christian airline, and they can only fly Christians around. Then they could pull those stupid stunts.

I am an atheist, and this totally pisses me off. I can only imagine how angry this would have made me if I was a practicing member of a non-Christian faith.

Imagine the situation in reverse: an atheist pilot advises the Christians that they should talk to the atheists on board, in order to get straightened out. ha.

Our country has gone MAD.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[ComerPerro]

9. Yeah I wonder if he was baiting

But, I also think he knew there would be a negative backlash, which would make him a hero to the stupider Christians around the country.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

7. Oklahoma! Toby Keith Land!

:puke:

[AZCat]

8. I can't talk to these people anymore

I tried to write a nice note about how they have different beliefs, but I just can't stand listening to anyone with such a distorted view.

[cboy4]

11. This is interesting:

To: National Desk, Religion Editor

Contact: Dane Rose of the National Clergy Council, 202-546-8329, [e-mail]

WASHINGTON, Feb. 10 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by the National Clergy Council:

The National Clergy Council, representing Catholic, Evangelical, Orthodox and Protestant church leaders, will today caution American Airlines executives to carefully approach its investigation of a pilot who urged his passengers to talk to Christians on board about faith.

"This was not a threatening incident," said National Clergy Council President Rev. Rob Schenck. "At worse it was misplaced exuberance. At best, he may have helped someone with their spiritual needs." :puke:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

14. Here's a saying worth sharing:

"Don't waken the person who is asleep, you may wind up in his nightmare."

It is never correct for a pilot to share his belief system in the way he did, imho.

[ms_splash]

17. makes me want to vomit

I can see it now, "pilot sues American Airlines after firing, claims religious discrimination".

Oh those "christians", always being discriminated against!

Hey, he was just exercising "religious freedom". Unfortunately, all those passengers were not free FROM his religion.

[bloom]

22. They are trying to sound mainstream - but they aren't -

From their website:

____________________
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Tom DeLay
John L. Lafalce
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Robert B. Aderholt

Others

Gov. Fob James (Alabama)
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Jack Kemp
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Sen. Rick Santorum for his pro-life leadership;

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[slor]

13. This is going to marginalize...

these christian fundies. Most people in this country would have been outraged in this situation. Just a really stupid thing for the pilot to say. I hope they keep this crap up!

[Frances]

15. Maybe we should have special planes

for people who want to listen to inflight sermons. Sarcasm.

[BlueCollar]

18. having worked on "outsourced" airplanes

in the past...I wonder if a sermon might not help.

remember, in the maintenance world...you are flying on an airplane maintained by the lowest bidder...and that bidder is not always that closely monitored...

anyone remember valujet and sabretech?

[smirkymonkey]

16. Does anyone know if the pilot

has received any disciplinary action? Personally, I think he should be shot. But that's just me. :)

[cboy4]

20. The incident is still "under review"

[Cat Atomic]

24. Another one of the right's inexplicable contradictions:

1. Christianity is under siege in America. Christians are being persecuted.

2. This is a Christian nation. Most of us are very devout Chistians.

Eh?