Support the eventual nominee, whoever that is

[x-g.o.p.er]

Look, this is a free country (for now), and you can support whoever you want for as long as you want to, but when we have a nominee, I don’t see how one can look at our guy, whoever it is, and decide to not support him when faced with the alternative. A lot of people from the right are hopping the fence to support the Democratic nominee. A unified Democratic party, along with a fractured Republican base that is unhappy with the current leadership, is a perfect recipe for much needed change in the presidency this fall. Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face, and remember at the end of the day what the goal is.

Could you, with a clear conscience, not feel personally responsible after Patriot Act 3, 4, and 5 are passed, further abridging free speech?? Will you still be able to protest the administration’s policy? If you demonstrated at Drake University, you can’t. At least not without getting subpoenaed. Imagine 4 more years down this path.

Could you, with a clear conscience, watch more young men and women die in PNAC sponsored wars? What other lies will we be told to get us into other wars?

Could you, with a clear conscience, watch the deficit soar to levels unimaginable just four years ago? As bad as it is now, imagine four more years of this kind of spending.

Power is unchecked. Spending is out of control. Personal liberty is under assault. Help stop it. Come home and vote Democrat in 2004.

[BillZBubb]

1. Preaching to the Choir!

Anyone but Bush--and I mean anyone! No reservations whatsoever.

[ThomWV]

4. Absolutly - With A Qualifier

It must be someone recognized as the Candidate by the Democratic Party. ABB can also bring up some real loosers as well as the candidates who are very good people being representative of a relatively small number of people as the Greens. They don't stand a chance of winning but they can sure throw the election the wrong way. So, no, I don't buy the ABB lock step, but Any Democrate, that I'm in for.

[BillZBubb]

12. Maybe I misunderstood,

but I thought the topic was about supporting the eventual Democratic nominee? I'll vote for whoever gets the Democratic nomination, gladly!

[11 Bravo]

2. And don't forget the SCOTUS.

The next president will have the opportunity to nominate one, and possibly two justices who will serve for generations. God help us if that president is *.

[Eloriel]

3. Could they, with a clear conscience

do everything in their power to thwart the will of the people and bring down the clear frontrunner well before his time?

Yours is a very nice post -- one of the very best ABB posts I've ever seen here at DU.

But I'm not voting my fear in Nov., I'll be voting my hopes and dreams. I'll be voting for Howard Dean whether on the ticket or as a write-in. I'm not suggesting others do that, that's what I'm currently planning to do with MY vote.

If the Party and any other candidate wants my vote, it'll have to do things quite a bit differently than they're currently doing things, and have been doing things for years now. I will never again whore my vote.

So, perhaps you can appeal to THEM to make the necessary changes so they can earn our votes for a change, instead of browbeating and fearmongering or merely assuming and expecting us all to fall in line? (You see, the emphasis keeps being put on the wrong half of the equation in these discussions!! It's not up to us voters to somehow be worthy of voting for them, it's their job to be worthy of our votes. Not nearly enough emphasis on how this actually works around here.)

[tom_paine]

6. Et tu, Eloriel?

I don't want to start a flame-fest, but of all people I am stunned to hear you say such a thing.

Very sad.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :(

[Old and In the Way]

7. Seems like a wasted vote, if it's a write-in..

"I'll be voting for Howard Dean whether on the ticket or as a write-in."

What's the point? Ego gratification? If you think a person running for POTUS can offer you and 70 million other voters a Burger King solution, I don't think you understand how the system works. You get to choose (1) from column A or (1) from column B...no takeout.

[styersc]

9. Dean has said that he will support then nominee (albeit when he was

in the lead). To write in Dean after his ABB declaration to support the ticket is an insult to Dean.

Instead of electing Bush by default through a throw away vote- just vote for Bush outright. That way atleast you are honest in the process.

[tom_paine]

5. Hear Hear!

Even Howard Stern is contemplating voting against Bush!

:evilgrin:

One thing, though x-g.o.p.er, that I want to touch on lightly, because I know you aren't doing it on purpose.

One of the many Propaganda Actions taken by the Busheviks as they have built their Party-Loyal Sub-Media and other Sovet-like disinformation institutions is (as they did with the word liberal) to turn the adjective "Democratic" into a slur by using the noun form of the word as an adjective.

It works the same as this:

normal phrase: "Jewish Lawyer"

slur using noun as adjcetive: "Jew Lawyer"

Now, this doesn't work for every adjective, but for many, incuding Jewish and Democratic.

Now, we know the Propaganda uses of this type of slur "Democrat Party" over "Democratic Party" not only is a terrific slur, but has wonderful (to the Busheviks) connotations which subconsciously tell "the base" that even though they have to pretend, the Imperial Family hates Jews and minorities as much as they do (not all Republicans, of course, but as the Democrats have a vast majority of actual socialists and commies aligned with them, so do the Busheviks have a vast majority of KKK, militia, Nazis and assorted racists on aligned with them)

To clarify, neither of these groups is in the majority nor even close in either party. The deadly difference is that, while actual hardcore Commie rhetoric can't be found in Democratic ideals/literature/positions, hardcore KKK/militia/Nazi rhetoric (minus the overt racism) can be found shrieking across the spectrum of the entirety of the Party-Loyal Bushevik Sub-Media and having made it's way into the Corporate TV Pravda that floats lazily in it's wake.

Don't believe me?

Read Ann Coulter (who's rhetoric regarding liberals is nearly completely similar to Nazi rhetoiric, minus overt racism...try reading one of here columns and replace "liberal" or "socialist" with "Jew" and "America" with "Germany" to easily see what I mean.

or Sean Hannity.

Or Rush Limbaugh.

And so forth...

Anyway, if you are truly sincere about joining Free America then would you kindly stop using the noun "Democrat" where the adjective "Democratic" is appropriate.

I know it seems small and trivial. But that is how you redefine language as the Busheviks have become Orwell's Little Experts on the subject.

I hope you and your family are well, sir.

[x-g.o.p.er]

8. Interesting point Tom...

Well argued, (as always), and well-reasoned. Any insult, I assure you, was unintentional. I will work to fix that. But in all honesty, I thought my grammatical use of Democrat/Democratic was correct. Anyhow, I give you my word that I'll try to correctly annotate in the future. And we're doing well, thanks for asking. I hope the same can be said for you and yours.

[tom_paine]

10. All are well over here, x-g.o.p.er

Thanks for the compliment and no insult was taken by your use of Democrat because I knew none was intended.

It is funny, though, how I have noticed that, on rare occasions, the Democratic Party has done this to themselves. I remember seeing signs when I was a kid "Vote Democrat on Nov. 5th".

Back in those days, such grammatical misuse was rare and, as I said, sometimes came from the Democratic side (for what reason I cannot fathom).

However, when the Busheviks first began to shatter post-WWII civility codes (I am speaking here about relative poltical civility...what Liberal baby Boomer types did to social civlity or "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" as I like to call it, is a topic for another day and probably only pursued on DU boards with a thick set of asbestos undies for all the flames we'll attract) and mores, during the time of Reagan, culminating with Gingrich's "contrasting words" and of course the Clinton fiasco in which more laws were broken setting the "perjury trap" than the perjury itself, one of the main new Gingrich "contrasting words" initiatives was the turning of the term "Democrat Party" into a universally used pejorative term.

If you look closely now...I'll bet you can't find a single, corroborated citation after 1998 of DeLay, Gingrich, Gillespie, or the rest of the Imperial Stooges EVER calling it the "Democratic Party" in their quotes. I am further confident that you can do a lot of looking and won't find a single instance (unless perhaps it's on the Senate Floor and probably not even THEN).

Anyway, like all good Totalitarian Propaganda, it is designed to fly underneath your conscious and embed itself without your actual knowledge. One of the central tenets of marketing/advertising/PR is that these institutions all work orders of magnitude more effectively if the subject ("victim" says I) is unaware that he/she is being manipulated.

So, that's the story. The funny thing is that you will occasionally see Democrats who've been suckered by the meme using the slur term constantly. It is also confusing on the occasions where the Democrats use this term, not as a slur of course, but merely sloppy grammer.

But the meme is real, the slur is real and any hardcore Bushevik will be all too happy (especially if they think you're one of them) to explain WHY they refuse to call it anything other than the "Democrat Party".

You say you still have friends who are buried in the Party-Loyal Bushevik Sub-Media Matrix drinking in all the lies, half-truths and propaganda (by the way it's important to note that I do NOT consider the Democrats to be ethically and morally pure and honest, just that there is no comparison to Bushewvik corruption currently). Go ahead and ask them about the "Democrat Party" thing. Then PM me with the answer because I am curious to hear it in their own words.

[Maeve]

11. It could be an ellipse

"Vote Democrat" as an ellipse (shortening) for "Vote (for the) Democrat". Not arguing, just offering an alternative.

I prefer "Vote Democratic" myself--scans better. But very nicely written.

I will add this--should this thread become a primary fight, it will be locked as inappropriate for GD. I'd hate to see that happen, tho.

[x-g.o.p.er]

13. I write this with sorrow and trepidation...

in my heart. First of all, I am rapidly losing my friends over this. Telling them I wasn't voting for Bush was bad enough; announcing that I switched to the Democratic (see, I'm working on it, lol) Party was akin to swearing allegiance to the devil himself.

In the two weeks or so since I switched, I have been called lots of nice things, but mostly it comes down to an amalgamation of an anti-American/communist/homosexual (but it's the denigrating term of gay that is used). And apparently, I now am a big fan of Osama Bin Laden, and I am no longer allowed to have compassion for those that were killed on Sep 11th. Because, you see, I am also a traitor.

Anyhow, I digress. Before I left the office, politics (again) was being discussed. "Democrat Party" was used a few times, and I asked, "isn't it the "Democratic Party?"

"Democrats are liberals. Liberals don't believe in a Democratic society, so that is why they are Democrats, in my opinion," my co-workewr opined. "Democrats should be outlawed. This country would be a whole lot better off."

I shut off my computer and came home. I am very depressed.