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judge_smales Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:27 PM
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It's time to change the way we think.


I posted this in another thread, but I think it deserves it's own post.

Can you feel it? It happened. The tipping point has passed. We're no longer the voice in the wilderness., crying out that Bu$h is a phoney and a liar.

Bush is going down. Not "going to go down", not "looking vulnerable", he *IS* going down. America is waking up to what we've been saying since the selection. It's like Carville said "We're right. They're wrong"

Now let's start acting like it, damn it!!

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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:29 PM
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1. Not quite yet
Don't wanna jinx anything by appearing arrogant. Let's just keep hammering it home.
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judge_smales Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:32 PM
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3. Oh, no!

I'm not saying we should stop spreading thre truth about Bu$h at EVERY opportunity. What we should do is stop thinking of ourselves as the "other party", or as second fiddles to the NeoCons.

America is being returned to those who deserve it, and we should step up and take what's ours. Boldly.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:52 PM
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7. Pride goeth before the fall
This will ultimately be the Neo-cons undoing. I never thought we were the "other" party but I do sometimes question it's efforts on progressive issues. And I still will.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:04 PM
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11. "Step up and take what's ours"
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 03:07 PM by BeFree
It's called: Leadership.

Ya know, like when it was written: "We, the people, in order to form a more perfect union....."
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:29 PM
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2. I'm not sure I agree, but I like your style, smales!
"Do you want to be bad, Danny or good?"
--Judge Smails, "Caddyshack"

"How 'bout a Fresca?"
--Judge Smails, "Caddyshack"
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judge_smales Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:33 PM
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4. Tom,

I've sent boys younger than you to the gas chamber. I didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:43 PM
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6. Remember when that was a joke?
Sad as it is, I could see those words issuing from the lips of any of the Bushevik Federalist Society "judges".

With a straight face and in utter seriousness, naturally.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:38 PM
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5. I feel it. The Dems have been waiting for this moment.
The AWOL issue goes STRAIGHT to Bush's character. Especially the cover up aspect of it.

The DNC just had to wait till they felt Kerry or Clark would be the nominee before they could pound it through.

If another was the nominee it would get twisted around too easily.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:55 PM
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8. Don't underestimate the power of $200 million in attack ads
The dirty tricks haven't even begun yet. They have YET to begin their attacks on Kerry.

Remember, in November, people will be going to the polls to pull a lever for one of two men...Kerry or Bush. By the time the media and Rove are finished smearing Kerry, its going to be extremely close.

Premature celebrations, like premature ejaculations, are not fulfilling events.

Please keep powder dry.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:58 PM
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9. The freepers are desperately searching for Kerry photos from protests
They particularly want to find one of Kerry with Jane Fonda. I don't think that such a photo would damage Kerry as much as they think-most americans recognize that the Vietnam War was a very big mistake.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:02 PM
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10. I'm sure Rove has a whole closet full of "compromising"
pics of Kerry protesting the war.

Remember, the FBI took pics of everyone at the rallies. Hell, they have a file on me.

The smearing will be a generalized thing though, including but not limited to the war protests. But, you are right, lots of people protested the war and in hindsight it is now generally thought to have helped end the madness of that invasion.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:14 PM
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12. Bring back the Viet Nam police action!
It is the perfect time to get America thinking about that mistake again.

I think of it as the last time we had a Texan in the WH. No more Texans, damnit, no more. America should never have to pay Texans again.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:31 PM
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13. Bush was AWOL. Facts are stubborn things.
They particularly want to find one of Kerry with Jane Fonda.

If that's the best they can do to turn attention away from Bush's record (AWOL) they are really pathetic.

You're right. Most Americans now accept the fact that Vietnam was a mistake. I happened to like Jane Fonda, but there were many ways of protesting that war, some effective and some not as well thought out. What's important is that people of conscience protested.

Little Shrub didn't even have the brains or the balls to protest. He just made himself look acceptable to the people who think war is a grand idea and at the same time carefully avoided putting his own life on the line. No principles, no convictions and no honor... just looking out for his own backside.
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