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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:03 AM
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CSPAN Question: Is Bush's* Guard Record A Legitimate Campaign Issue?
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 07:10 AM by Q
- Topic of discussion on Washington Journal this morning. Should be very interesting.

- The question: Is Bush's guard record a legitimate campaign issue?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:06 AM
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1. It appears as if the Bushies want to get this over with...
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 07:11 AM by Q
...before the 2004 campaign heats up.

- The host read a story on air saying the Defense Department is requesting Bush's* national guard records. (Anyone hear about this?)

- The first caller says it's not important because of 'all the wonderful things he has done for our country'.

- Another caller said that Clinton's 'draft dodging' should have been an issue...but Bush's* service record shouldn't be.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:12 AM
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2. How much of an issue is a high draft number
and a student deferment? But if they think that's important, why not check out Cheney's five deferments?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:20 AM
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9. Republicans don't remember it that way...
...and prefer to believe the misinformation they've been fed about Clinton. For them...it's enough to call him a 'draft dodger' and not get into the details.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:13 AM
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3. A caller brings up Dan Barlett heading a team...
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 07:16 AM by Q
...that scrubbed Bush's* service records in 1997. Caller says she wants the truth about this as so many are being sent to die in Iraq.

- Most of the RWing callers are of course bringing up Clinton's 'draft dodging' and the 'stupid Democrats' that supported him. The double-standards being shown by Republican callers is astounding.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:15 AM
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4. Bu$h is no longer just a candidate for president
he is the friggin Commander in Chief of US Armed Forces. You bet it's a major issue.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:18 AM
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5. It's a question of...
CHARACTER. ;-)
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:18 AM
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6. The veterans calling in so far...
...seem to think it's an important issue for that very reason.

- Republicans calling in don't seem to remember the way they treated Clinton for eight years because he 'didn't serve'. Now they don't seem to care about the service record of their own.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:19 AM
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7. it's that little thing "serving your country"

Involving doing something for the collective good, usually.

It seems he is perfectly innocent of any allegation of perpetrating even one service for his country.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:20 AM
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8. The day that little bastard...
landed on an aircraft carrier with the words "Mission Accomplished" it became an issue. And since he mentioned the word "war" at least 30 times in his interview with Russert, it's even more of an issue now.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:23 AM
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10. Agreed...if Bush* wants to play the role of a great warrior...
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 07:24 AM by Q
...then he should have the record and service to back it up. Bush* wants to PLAY and ACT the role...but doesn't want to be questioned about reality.

- As a poster wrote above: it's all about CHARACTER.

- Wow. A number of callers in a row are demanding that he release ALL his records. They're saying if he would lie about his service he would lie about anything.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:28 AM
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11. a repug that voted for him, won't again until this issue is cleared up
JMO, this is getting a lot more play in the media because we are in Iraq. Folks are taking a second look at their fearless leader.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:32 AM
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12. caller after watching MTP,
GWB should be called "George beat around the Bush"
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:32 AM
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13. Caller: Vietnam war protestors were 'dopers'...
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 07:34 AM by Q
...and wants everyone to move on. He says Bush's* service happened a 'long time ago' and everyone should 'move on'. (Sound familiar?)

- Do they remember Whitewater? Seems Republicans don't want THEIR past used against them.

- The host keeps asking: if Bush's* record is an issue...was Clinton's lack of service an issue? The host doesn't seem to remember that Republicans DID make Clinton's lack of service an issue...not only during campaigns...but for his entire two terms.

- Next caller: AWOL is a crime and people get arrested for it.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:39 AM
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15. What a joke!
When is someone gonna call in and ask how come junior jumped over 500 some odd men in the National Guard in order to fly. When most of these men had a ROTC commission where junior had none.

Been trying like hell to get on!
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:33 AM
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14. Maybe people are looking for a solid reason to hate him..
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 07:34 AM by Catshrink
and justify not voting for him. This might do it for a RWnut.

edited to make sense. You be the judge.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:41 AM
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16. But as a caller just noted...
...it seems most RWingers 'believe' that this issue was 'settled' during the 2000 campaign. They can't say HOW it was settled...but that's their talking point.

- So far...most callers believe it's a 'legitimate issue'...based on the issue of honesty and character.

- Note: Grover Norquist is up next on Washington Journal.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:51 AM
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18. You just ruined my morning
Thanks. :puke:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:43 AM
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17. Dems are desperate for issues
Huh?!??! I think they've given us more than enough issues to run on. Jobs, economy, Patriot Act, corporate corruption, health care, church-state separation, constitutional amendments against gay marriage...

Why do they keep insisting that we have no issues? Do they think if they say it loud and long enough that it somehow becomes true?
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