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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:50 AM
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Anyone else seen this?
This really concerns me....

Before you read the testimony of Norman Mineta, below, please realize that he is talking about events of 911, just after the second plane hit the second World Trade Tower, and right before the third plane hit the Pentagon. Keep in mind that, at this point, Cheney knew that the third plane was headed for a Washington target. This is very frightening.

The testimony of Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta on May 23 about Cheney's actions is revealing. Mineta said he arrived at the Presidential Emergency Operating Center (PEOC) at 9:20 a.m. where he observed the Vice President taking charge:

Mineta: There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, "The plane is 50 miles out.The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?"

And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant. And.

Hamilton: The flight you're referring to is the.

Mineta: The flight that came into the Pentagon.

After some discussion of whether Cheney's orders meant to shoot down the hijacked aircraft, it was clearly stated on the record that there were no such orders to do so, which raises the obvious question of what "the orders" were:

Hamilton: And so there was no specific order there to shoot that plane down.

Mineta: No, sir.

Hamilton: But there were military planes in the air in position to shoot down commercial aircraft.

Mineta: That's right. The planes had been scrambled, I believe, from Otis at that point.



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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:52 AM
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1. link?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 01:56 AM
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2. Link!?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:00 AM
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3. I found this
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:08 AM
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4. Thanks, ComerPerro, I totally forgot about the link.....
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:10 AM
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5. Damn!
What a sick bastard. He's fried!
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:13 AM
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6. Hmmmm
Taking off my tin hat for a minute, this plane was the one that was carrying Ted Olson's wife, Barbara. Perhaps Ted has successfully lobbied the VP to refrain from shooting down the plane (even though it would doom hundreds more lives).

Either way, the testimony is odd- especially given the strong likelihood that Cheney gave the order to shoot down the P.A. flight.

Anyone have a detailed chronology of events on that day?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:17 AM
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8. right here
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:15 AM
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7. can you edit thread title?
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 02:15 AM by Insider
thanks for posting this. a more descriptive title will make it clear to people interested in this important material. it's critical stuff.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 02:52 AM
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9. kick
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