You folks do realize the Dubya will soon be in the Thirties?

[trumad]

Keep listening for those Silly Pundits who refer to Dubya as a er...popular president...It will provide a good chuckle..

Plus... I've read a couple of posts from fellow DU'ers claiming the the Election will be close. Errrr,,,yah right. The only thing that could save Dubya is the election day capture of Benny Laden or another, god Forbid, attack on the good old USA.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. And both of those things will happen

Count on it. From August on, next fall will be a time of "miracles".

[banana republican]

7. What !!!!! you mean Bush Can not protect us???????

OH the horror of it all...

[cheezus]

15. would an attack on the us help bush?

will people automatically get behind him like they did on 9/11, or will they see another attack as evidence that he's not doing a good job of dealing with the terrorist threat?

[info being]

17. That's why they'll make it a Liberal Activist attack

"See, we're trying to protect America...but these Liberals hate America just like the Al Qaeda."

[Changenow]

20. They'd support him again.

Most people don't know what is going on so they vote emotionally.

If it were all that easy to stage a catastrophic terrorist attacts Israel would be a hole in the ground. Chimp is going to have to do the equivalent of keeping the car running with the keys in the ignition and a sign that says "steal this car."

[Liberal Veteran]

2. And it will still be higher than it should be.

And an attack on the USA at this point would hardly be good for Chimpy. It would merely beg the question why we ceeded so much power to this retard and he still can't manage to stop an attack on the US.

[coloradodem2005]

3. Actually...

..I think and attack will do more harm for Dubya. He is predicating everything on the belief that his way works. Another attack would only reinforce the fact that it has not. Capture of Bin Laden may save him but it may not be as big a boost as those could hope for.

[JPace]

6. Another attack would also bring up the fact that AWOL

spent all our resources on an unnecessary
war in Iraq instead of funding homeland
security.

AWOL is toast!

[tom_paine]

4. A couple of reasons he won't ever see the 30s

If we were living in a Free Country with a free Press, he'd already be in the 30s.

I mean, seriously, how could the guy get DISAPPROVAL from 45% and APPROVAL at the same time from 48-50%.

Generally speaking, (or as things go in Free Countries), a disapproval rating approaching 50% means that some of the "approves" have been shaken loose into the noncomittal category.

But not in Imperial Amerika. Why?

Discounting the idea of utterly rigged polls (which is certainly possible...who'd stop them...who'd even have the balls to call them on it and lose their job and maybe their life?) is the increasing use of Psychomanipulative Propaganda by the Busheviks (I call the whole multi-faceted institution "Goebbels v2.0", after the founder of the stratagem).

Political Propoaganda, enhaced with all the psychology, marketing and PR advances, has essentially the same mission as Josef Goebbels. Bushevik Propaganda has the same goal.

To wit: An indigestible mass of propagandized automatons is purposefully formed. Highly suggestible and able to be activated with a few words from their Propaganda Masters, these poeple are also conditioned not to accept information from Non-Party-Approved Sources.

This guarantees that, even if dissenting infromation reasches our Bushevik Brownshirts, chances are high it will be dismissed out of hand because it doesn't come from a Party-Approved Source.

In this way, whatever percentage of Bushevik Brownshirts can never be moved from that column, no matter how high the disapproval from the rest of the population.

You might as well hope the Nazis would be converted and switch to the German Social Democratic Party.

It just ain't gonna happen.

Well, the same type of propaganda that kept the Nazi Core Voters in line also keeps the Bushevik Core under it's wing and "thinking pure thoughts".

[salinen]

8. Yes Tom

Also, if they reported the true disapproval, then the BBV voting machines would come into question. If chimp wins the election with the polls having him in the 30's, we will know why.

[Ediacara]

5. A terrorist attack would be the end for W.

The whole reason people support Bush is because they think he can save them from death by terrorists. If Bush lets terrorists kill Americans, then they will turn on Bush in droves.

Why do you think that his poll numbers went into the 80s and 90s after 9-11? People didn't support faith-based initiatives and trickle down economics, people were scared for their lives!

Another terrorist attack will be a complete reversal of 9-11 and his poll numbers will be in the teens.

[Minstrel Boy]

11. A terrorist attack means martial law.

Because the American people will "demand it." Remember Tommy Franks' trial balloon?

Another attack, and there won't be an election for Bush to lose.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

9. I wish I could share your optimism.

Never underestimate the people's stupidity and just plain fear.

[catmandu57]

10. Isn't the moron's* entire campaign based of keeping America safe

He claims to be the only one who can keep us from being attacked again, he's already failed that. If the phoney ricin attack were turned against the idiot we could trumpet that. As far as obl, I don't believe people are scared of that bogeyman any longer, it's the new blood that's going to come for us.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. Hey I'm all for that.

But when I talk to people in my city, even people I like. It's a different story. But let's hope the original poster is right. Shiiiiit, 30's is still be too high for me. But whatever gets the Bush Crime Syndicate out of office is fine by me.

[trumad]

13. According to this CNN poll

He's about 3 points away from the 30's....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/2/9/165813/8763

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

14. I had not seen that one.

Damn, it actually brings a smile to my face. Thanx.

[Brotherjohn]

16. Hate to burst your bubble, but look at the "correction" below that graphic

... you link to, and the actual CNN/Time Bush approval poll numbers on http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm.

Not that he won't be there, mind you.

For my part, I think, at best, he may stabilize around the high 40s and it'll be a close election. At worst (and more likely, I think), he will be in the 30s by Fall.

Like father, like son:

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. Bu$h and CO might just be crazy and desperate enough

to pull another attack.

I'm betting on an attack on the Statue of Liberty before the repug convention. The Statue of Liberty has been closed since 9-11 so there would be very few casualties. But it is a high profile and emotional target. Plus, it would get rid of that ugly green statue those Frenchies gave us.

Of course, the repugs will rally round the pres at the convention but the rest of the country will be demanding his head. In response, W launches a world wide massive HUNT for bin Laden. Two weeks before the election in a spectacular battle live on CNN, bin Laden is cornered and killed during the battle.

One thing is for sure, Rove is betting on taking America on one more emotional roller coaster at just the right time and one way or another reinstalling Bu$h for another 4 years.

[DemLikr]

19. Now the meme is that Bush* is a "PERSONALLY popular president."

That the Murican people like him as a person, even if not approving his policies. Politics as Prom Queen election.

I think I heard Cokie the ditz say that on "This Week"

[Catherine Vincent]

21. Surprisingly, I haven't heard many pundits call bush* a popular

president. It took them a while but they finally quit repeating it. If his poor ratings were like this a month or two before the election, then I would be hopeful, but there is still a lot of time and money to be had before this election.

[Estragon]

22. Wishful thinking?

There's a pretty even divide between "left" and "right" in American politics, and most people tend to stick with their side, except in cases of a major mistake on one side or the other. Bush may not be so bright, but the people around him are-- I think their ideas about foreign policy are rather backwards, but they're all intelligent enough to move their policy forward, whether it's right or wrong. I don't think his 'people' would let him mess up too big between now and election day, unless something happens totally out of American control. (Which is totally possible.)

Until then, there's really no way he'll drop below 40%. Even if he continues to mess up with, well, everything, people will still like him on account of him being an upstanding, moral, Christian man.

[Brotherjohn]

23. His dad dropped to the low 30s (see above)...

... as the economy floundered and people thought he was too pre-occupied with Iraq. He lost the enthusiasm of his base when he agreed to a tax hike. Likewise, W's huge deficits seem to be sapping the enthusiasm of HIS base.

And his dad didn't even have anything close to the the serious credibility problem W has developed.

So I don't believe he can't go below 40%. The even "divide" has only become so because large numbers are beginning to drift away from him (after drifting to him following 9-11). So in a sense, it's returned to the post-election 2000 divide. I can see where, given that, the election will still be close. But as far as Bush approval ratings, i think they're headed for 35-40%. That doesn't mean he won't garner more than 40% of the vote. But he's definitely in trouble.

[Arugula Latte]

25. Riiiiiiight...

Lying, slaughtering innocent people, purging legal voters, going AWOL, covering up a DUI, outing a CIA agent, hiding documents to cover your own poor performance, stonewalling people who want to investigate 9-11, gee, what could be more moral and upstanding and Christian than that kind of behavior?

[Catherine Vincent]

26. "people will still like him on account of him being ......

an upstanding, moral, Christian man."

Too bad he's not.

[Estragon]

27. Doesn't matter whether he is or not.

(Which he isn't.)

As long as the Religious Right keep thinking it. And they will.

[mlawson]

24. Let's not jinx it.

It's still a LONG time until November. Plenty could happen along the way.

I fear there is a resevoir of apolitical types out there, who just plain LIKE bush, and regardless of the polls, will vote for him in the end. Ronnie had millions of them ready.

[Iris]

28. Hadn't even crossed my mind!

Thanks for pointing it out.