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xrepub Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 09:51 AM
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FBI refuses to serve subpeona for 9/11 committee
Bob Graham, former member of 9/11 committee mentioned Friday night that the committee had issued a subpeona and asked the FBI to serve it. They refused to serve it.

Does anyone here have any info on this, or suggestions about how to get the facts?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 10:00 AM
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1. No idea...
FOIA, perhaps, to find the documents that a subpoena was issued and documents that show the subpoena was not served.

What, exactly, would be the crime/penalty for this? Obstruction of justice? How high does this go? Damnit, where are all the real journalists when you need em?
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JetJaguar Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 10:00 AM
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2. That's about what he said
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june04/intelligence_02-06.html


SEN. BOB GRAHAM:
...
Second the commission should have the power of subpoena and there should be a commitment by those agencies such as the FBI that they will enforce those subpoenas. We had a situation with our 9/11 review in which legally authorized subpoena was issued and the FBI refused to deliver it.


Not sure if there is a legal semantic difference between serve and deliver.
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xrepub Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 10:31 AM
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3. is this troublesome to you also?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 10:43 AM
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4. Troublesome? Yes!
All I can think is compared to these criminals, Fmr Atty General John Mitchell got the shaft. He wasn't half as blatant as they are.
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JetJaguar Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 11:02 AM
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8. Without particulars it's hard to say.
If it was a case of refusal to prosecute

Yes.

If it was a case of the Commission using the
FBI as there bearer of bad news, while they
had other means of delivery.

A "Who's gonna tell the Boss he has bad breath?"
type thing.

Somewhat.

Without the who, what, where, and whens it's hard
to gauge the gravity of it.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:11 PM
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9. Who else could serve the subpeona?
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 12:11 PM by htuttle
Congress has no law enforcement powers of it's own. It relies on the FBI to handle things of that matter.

Who else could they have deliver or serve a subpeona, even if it was 'bad news'? The Sargeant-at-Arms? "Bob's Subpeona Service and Bail Bonding"?

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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 10:50 AM
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5. the FBI is a purely political operation

it exists to protect the establishment

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 10:55 AM
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6. We should ask journalists to find out what this is about (nt)
nt
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 10:57 AM
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7. The FBI serves at the pleasure of the Congress...
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 10:58 AM by Q
...not of the 'president'.

- It seems as if the CIA and FBI have become little more than 'secret police' for the Bush* government. That is...we now have an American Gestapo.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:10 PM
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13. Not true
Congress can remove the head of the FBI, however the FBI is an agency under the control of the Executive branch of our govt. (Hint for Q: Congress is NOT "the Executive")
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:17 PM
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10. FBI: Should be FBO
"Federal Bureau of Obfuscation" Have EVIDENCE of a crime of state you want HIDDEN from the people? Make sure the FBO gets there first.
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xrepub Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 01:55 PM
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11. bump
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:03 PM
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12. I remember....
...talk about the WH not allowing inside the gate the bearer of a subpoena a couple of years ago. I believe the subpoena was for Cheney. It wasn't the 9-11 commission, obviously.

So the precedent of refusing subpoenas is there.

Why doesn't some DUer in Florida phone the senator's office and ask about it?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:51 PM
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14. why not use the DC police to deliver it? Does it have to be the FBI?
gin
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:56 PM
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16. Congress has no connection to the DC police
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 02:56 PM by htuttle
The FBI is supposedly the main Federal law enforcement entity. The DC police ultimately work for the Mayor of DC, not the US government.

I think the subpeona mentioned just above was the Larry Klayman/Judicial Watch one regarding the Cheney and the energy meeting papers.

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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:57 PM
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17. Maybe attach it to a CandyGram?
nt
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:53 PM
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15. And the mechanisms of the Old Republic continue to wind down
into nothing.

This is just another signpost on the Road to Totalitarianism.
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