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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 03:38 PM
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MTP Deconstruction: Iraq ala Vietnam
Iraq ala Vietnam

Russert: On Iraq, the vice president said, “we would be greeted as liberators.”

President Bush: Yeah.

Russert: It's now nearly a year, and we are in a very difficult situation. Did we miscalculate how we would be treated and received in Iraq?

President Bush: Well, I think we are welcomed in Iraq. I'm not exactly sure, given the tone of your questions, we're not. We are welcomed in Iraq.

Russert: Are you surprised by the level and intensity of resistance?

President Bush: No, I'm not. And the reason I'm not surprised is because there are people in that part of the world who recognize what a free Iraq will mean in the war on terror. In other words, there are people who desperately want to stop the advance of freedom and democracy because freedom and democracy will be a powerful long term deterrent to terrorist activities.

See, free societies are societies that don't develop weapons of mass terror and don't blackmail the world.

If I could share some stories with you about some of the people I have seen from Iraq, the leaders from Iraq, there is no question in my mind that people that I have seen at least are thrilled with the activities we've taken. There is a nervousness about their future, however.

Russert: If the Iraqi people choose

President Bush: Well, let me finish on the nervousness. I don't want to leave it on that note.

There's nervousness because they're not exactly sure what their form of government will look like, and there is you can understand why. In nine months' time, there’s – we’re now saying, democracy must flourish. And as I recall from my history, it took us quite a while here in the United States, but nevertheless we are making progress.
And so, when you see the debate and the discussion about freedom, those are welcoming signs as far as I'm concerned. People are saying how best to develop this system so that we are free and minority rights are protected.

Russert: If the Iraqis choose, however, an Islamic extremist regime, would you accept that, and would that be better for the United States than Saddam Hussein?

President Bush: They're not going to develop that. And the reason I can say that is because I'm very aware of this basic law they're writing. They're not going to develop that because right here in the Oval Office I sat down with Mr. Pachachi and Chalabi and al Hakim, people from different parts of the country that have made the firm commitment, that they want a constitution eventually written that recognizes minority rights and freedom of religion.

I remember speaking to Mr. al Hakim here, who is a fellow who has lost 63 family members during the Saddam reign. His brother was one of the people that was assassinated early on in this past year. I expected to see a very bitter person. If 63 members of your family had been killed by a group of people, you would be a little bitter. He obviously was concerned, but he I said, you know, I'm a Methodist, what are my chances of success in your country and your vision? And he said, it's going to be a free society where you can worship freely. This is a Shiia fellow.

And my only point to you is these people are committed to a pluralistic society. And it's not going to be easy. The road to democracy is bumpy. It's bumpy particularly because these are folks that have been terrorized, tortured, brutalized by Saddam Hussein.



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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 03:43 PM
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1. "We are welcomed in Iraq"
what planet does he live on? The Iraqi people are becoming more and more disillusioned with the US. They are demanding direct elections soon-and they will create the state they wish to create. Any manipulations on the part of the US to create a state, including non-direct elections of representatives, will be looked on as a puppet regime. We'll be lucky if we don't wind up with civil war in Iraq, imho.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 03:45 PM
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2. I'm surprised
Arabs around the world aren't marching in the streets over the WMD flap.
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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 04:13 PM
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3. In other words ...

Russert: If the Iraqis choose, however, an Islamic extremist regime, would you accept that, and would that be better for the United States than Saddam Hussein?

President Bush: They're not going to develop that. And the reason I can say that is because I'm very aware of this basic law they're writing. They're not going to develop that because right here in the Oval Office I sat down with Mr. Pachachi and Chalabi and al Hakim, people from different parts of the country that have made the firm commitment, that they want a constitution eventually written that recognizes minority rights and freedom of religion.


In other words, the people of Iraq will NOT be allowed to choose. Pachachi, Chalabi and Al Hakim will choose FOR them.
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