Three ex-CIA agents say WMD's will be planted:

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Ex-CIA analyst "WMD will be found - even if they have to be planted."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=20205&forum=DCForumID66

Three former CIA agents made several charges against the Bush Administration yesterday. Retired intellegence analyst Ray McGovern said, "I'm sure some few will be found, but not in an amount that by any stretch would justify the charge of a threat against the US or anyone else. EVEN IF THE PLANTING WAS DISCOVERED BY AND BY, THEY'LL SAY 'OK, THE WEAPONS WERE PLANTED - FINE."

McGovern said he was alluding to Colin Powell's comment about the forged documents he and the Bush Administration used to sell the U.N. (and U.S. Congress, and American people) that the Iraqis were in the process of acquiring a nuclear capability. Powell said "If that information is inaccurate - fine."

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0425-11.htm

[NNN0LHI]

1. Common sense dictates that they will have to find something even...

...if it does need to be planted.

Don

[ConcernedCanuk]

3. I think that WMD's may already be "found" or planted

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I have an unsatisfied curiosity about why we have heard NOTHING about the dozens of underground bunkers and miles of underground roads in Iraq:

especially those around Baghdad which include a two-lane highway from the Airport into Central Baghdad.

Previous documents, including photos and a documentary I saw on our Canuk TV verify massive complexes underground including generating stations, massive air-conditioning systems, mess halls, living quarters and so on

Surely some of this would be newsworthy -unless

The USA has a purpose in keeping these bunkers and underground facilities out of the limelight.

We heard one weenie "blurb" about these underground complexes, roads, etc. just after the USA took over the Airport, when they discovered an "entrance"

Then no more . . .

SOMETHING is going on down there . .

but what . . . :shrug:

[NNN0LHI]

4. My bet is that they have Saddam's scientists working...

...their fingers to the bone mixing up something that can't be traced back to the US or the UK. That is my guess.

Don

[Maccagirl]

2. Why isn't this in the mainstream media?

Oh sorry-not in the playbook...


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[teryang]

5. Victoria Clarke

...was a Hill & Knowlton employee. Very interesting. This firm was a favorite with the tobacco industry when it was trying to convince all that tobacco doesn't cause cancer.

Also liked the Heller story. The origin of the first Iraq war was an American subterfuge. No one cares to hear about that. Everyone prefers the mythology.

This article barely scratches the surface concerning the Seal drug trafficking/arms dealing by the CIA at Mena. There were too many killed on that account to tell the truth. Kerry knows everything about this story due to his investigative work in the Senate. Clinton knows all about it too. That is a source of their political power.

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6. Kerry and Clinton's "insurance policy"

Hill and Knowlton are makeover artists for corporate crooks. They also did makeovers for the Kuwaiti elites and Saudis when their reputations for excess and pedophilia were exposed.

They did a makeover for some asbestos company back in the 80's, forgot the name of it.

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15. do you remember this Conservative

journalist who was suppose to look into Mena and started out blaming Clinton then the publication he started it may have been the "Spectator", but I'm not sure, suddenly lost its funding as Poppy Bush's role was exposed?

[JailForBush]

7. WMD's will be planted. Osama will be trotted out of his cage and

"captured" in front of a camera. Saddam Hussein will be handed over to a proxy government and executed before he can say anything to the world. One Skull and Bones recruit or another will be selected as pResident. Liberals will continue praising one of America's biggest corporate crooks, Bill Gates. Education won't be a major issue.

Sounds like everything's working out according to script.

[Laughing Mirror]

8. Or, as Noam Chomsky pointed out the other day

They'll spring the Osama capture on the jaded television viewer, weary of weapons of mass destruction, around the time of the Republican convention in New York, just in time for the 9/11 anniversary.

The thing is to get these rumors out now, so that everybody is prepared for when they do spring something like this on the public. Everybody will have been forewarned, and nobody will be surprised or much care. We see how the Saddam capture failed to reverse the continued decline in Bush's popularity.

[JailForBush]

9. You and I think alike! :) N/T

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10. My problem with Chomsky

He never beleived that Saddam was provoked by the Bushies in the 1st Gulf War. I have always wondered why he took that stand when the evidence was so clear. He, David Corn and Normon Solomon piss me off in their half--stepping. They seem to be more afraid of appearing to be conspiracy theorists than calling a spade a spade. The latter two attacked Ruppert in the Spring of 2002 for his take on 9/11 in a classic Repug character assasination.

[JailForBush]

11. I've never found thee time to study Chomsky, but...

One of Seattle's leading left-wing media whores, Geov Parrish, gushes over Chomsky. I'm not sure if this is evidence that Chomsky is working for the other side, or if Parrish is just praising a guy who's a class act in order to boost his own stature.

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12. Mixed feelings.

Chomsky is a vital contribution to liberal progressive thought. His theoretical constructs are excellent. But, for some damn reason, he comes up short at crucial times. In his take here though he seems to be very "conspiratorial" about WMD's being planted. If he and the other Lefties had not attacked Ruppert and others who had a line on what was happening alot of what we see happening now on these issues would have happened a year or more ago and maybe averted the Iraq disaster. I wonder about Corn especially, he didn't get "inside" the CIA without paying a price.

From what I've read of Parrish he is a hardcore green party anti-capitalist. Some people with this bent feel that "conspiracies" are unworthy of mentioning because they are indemic to capitalism itself.

I don't really care about which economic "ism" we have. I just want one that works. We already have socialism for the rich so I don't see any harm in having it for the poor too. I'm a Bertrand Russell enthusiast mainly; he believes the economic system is irrelevant as long as you have a political democracy and due diligence in regulating corruption. Most importantly he believes that if wars are prevented that all the other social and economic ills will be easily solved irregardless of the economic system.

[Toots]

13. He never beleived that Saddam was provoked by the Bushies in the 1st Gulf

I think allowed is a better way to put it than provoked. Although admittedly I am not real familiar with the entire situation. I remember hearing somewhere that Saddam had asked our ambassador what the US might say about him trying to reclaim Kuwait as part of Iraq and our Ambassador told him we wouldn't care. There may have been whisperings in Saddam's ear suggesting he do the deed that I am totally unaware of. I know one thing is certain we don't care near as much about Democracy in Kuwait as we supposedly do in Iraq.

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14. The provocation was the ongoing thievery of

oil from Rumailiah. Tariq Aziz called the Kuwaiti's dupes of the CIA.

The loss of oil revenues to Iraq was estimated at about $89 billion.

[Skidmore]

16. Stuff like this makes me feel physically ill. Isn't there anyone at that

level of government with scruples, who will step forward and do something right for this nation? Matcom, can you ask your dad what it takes for someone to step forward and say that we've gone too far?

[loudnclear]

17. I beat them to it! I said this in 2003, right after we invaded.

In fact, my theory is that our special ops and Isareli Mossad planted stuff about 12 months before the invasion. The problem is that there were some double agents among them and the Iraqis were tipped off and plundered the planted WMDs and either sold them or gave them away. That's the only thing that would explain why the Bush administration officials kept and still insist that WMDs would be found. They are incredulous about the loss of these WMDs.

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18. Ret. Lt. Commander said CIA tried to plant weapons and got blown

away by US troops


Pentagon Whistleblower Reveals CIA/ DoD Fiascos

20.06.2003 <08:07> In a world exclusive, Al Martin Raw.com has published a news story about a Department of Defense whistleblower who has revealed that a US covert operations team had planted "Weapons of Mass Destruction" (WMDs) in Iraq - then "lost" them when the team was killed by so-called "friendly fire." snip

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