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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:38 PM
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The indictments are coming
Watching McLaughlin Group tonight it was really nice to hear Eleanor Clift, Tony Blankley and Pat Buchanan all say that there are indictments coming from the Plame leak but none of them would say who. Reading Josh Marshall has let us all in on their little secret hasn't it?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:41 PM
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1. Did they say when it will happen?
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 09:43 PM by lancdem
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:42 PM
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2. What was their take?
How high up could it go?

How much damage to Bush?
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:44 PM
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3. Two Cheney
aides are the names I heard. I think one was his chief of staff.
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Unforgiven Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:49 PM
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4. Think they will
roll and implicate Cheney?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:50 PM
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5. They were all tight lipped
wouldn't say any more, none of them but they were sure sure of themselves. :evilgrin:
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:54 PM
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6. I doubt that no one big will be named
I heard Scooter Libby was one that was being investigated

(Don't you think he's a little old for that nickname?)
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:59 PM
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7. maybe if this administration wasn't obviously run by a child
but since Bush hasn't matured since he turned six, eh, scooter seems pretty appropriate for this administration
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:59 PM
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8. Ya can't get to the big guy
until the little ones get squeezed. And I wouldn't necessarily call Scooter tiny, God he's the dick's Chief of Staff.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:37 PM
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9. I remember '73 when I thought Watergate might go as high as
Ehrlichman & Haldeman. Nixon just seemed too much to hope for.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:05 PM
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11. the Iraq war "NO WMD" might help collapse the whole cabal
right up to and including bush*....I too remember when Watergate was going on...and it seemed like just rumbling in the background...but when it all collapsed...it happened very quickly...suddenly nixon was waving and leaving DC....it was wonderful....

bush* crimes are way beyond nixon...way beyond a third-rate breaking and entering....bush* is absolutely guilty right now of major war crimes....and IMO, that adds some urgency to the matters in front of courts....
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:46 PM
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10. Scooter & John HANNAH Won't Rat on CHEENEE
This bunch is tighter than (fill in the blank). Members of the BFEE know the rules of the game: The ones who become liabilities are dumped. Who mentions Ken LAY with regards to Shrub----it's like Shrub never knew him.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:10 PM
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12. as in Watergate....going to PRISON really helps get the rats to finger
each other....

scooter and hannah may LOVE cheney, but are they ready to serve LONG prison terms for cheney?...doubt it...that was made all the rats turn on nixon....even the Attorney General Mitchell went to Federal Prison...rats started lining up to plea-bargain their way out and finger each other FIRST...it was truly a spectacle....and bush* cabal will be the same, or likely, WORSE....IMO, they'll fall hard and fast...sort of like enron...one day, we'll wake up and these criminals will all be going to jail...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:16 PM
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13. From Your Lips to Zeus's Ear n/t
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:22 PM
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14. Retired CIA officer talked about this on Guy James this afternoon.
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 11:24 PM by JohnyCanuck
David McMichael the retired CIA officer Guy James was interviewing on his show ( www.theguyjamesshow.com ) this afternoon, Saturday Feb 7, said that the scuttlebutt around Washington was that in return for Tenant not overtly spilling the beans on the Shrub administration for the WMD screwup, the CIA would in return get two of Cheney's staffers held responsible and presumably punished for the Plame outing. He mentioned Libby's name and I can't remember the other name he mentioned as being the prime candidates. He also said he strongly suspected that Cheney would make an excuse about his health and give up the VP candidacy in the 2004 elections. Remember he did say this was just the rumours he had picked up around Washington.

The show is supposed to be archived at www.whiterosesociety.org but I noticed that although they've got links up to the archive for today's show it doesn't appear to be working and neither are the previous couple of shows from January either. However if you check in later and the link is working, the interview with McMichael starts around one hour into the 3hr show.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:43 AM
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15. Plame is one case that had to have ticked off the...
CIA enough to put pressure on the Bush. Two can play at that game, but the CIA doesn't like dead ops. Over the top leak.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:04 AM
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16. It is about time
Now maybe the media can get their narrow little minds to see how the Plame case and faulty intel is one in the same.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:10 AM
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17. UPI wire story has been out for several days now
Here's the UPI wire story by Richard Sale (which NO major news organization has run with yet):

http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/02/17/National/Cheneys.Staff.Focus.Of.Probe-598606.shtml

Federal law-enforcement officials said that they have developed hard evidence of possible criminal misconduct by two employees of Vice President Dick Cheney's office related to the unlawful exposure of a CIA officer's identity last year. The investigation, which is continuing, could lead to indictments, a Justice Department official said.

According to these sources, John Hannah and Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, were the two Cheney employees. "We believe that Hannah was the major player in this," one federal law-enforcement officer said. Calls to the vice president's office were not returned, nor did Hannah and Libby return calls.

The strategy of the FBI is to make clear to Hannah "that he faces a real possibility of doing jail time" as a way to pressure him to name superiors, one federal law-enforcement official said.

More at:
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2004/02/17/National/Cheneys.Staff.Focus.Of.Probe-598606.shtml

The weird thing is... WHY hasn't anyone in the media picked up this story yet??

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 03:40 AM
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18. Kick
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