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Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 09:39 PM by thingfish
What follows are step-by-step summaries of the twenty-four chapters contained in what appears to be a phantom document, "DejaVu: A People's Deeper History of the United States." Despite preliminary attempts at investigation, the author's identity remains unknown to me.

I stumbled across this index while Googling "silberman october surprise vast right wing conspiracy" after learning about the newly appointed Intelligence Review panel-member Lawrence Silberman (and long-time Clinton attacker)'s role in Iran Contra (and possibly October Surprise) at Joshua Micah Marshall's excellent blog, Talking Points Memo.

It was the only page that came up in the search. I clicked on it. The link was dead.

Luckily, a Google cache version was available. I clicked, read, and was astonished. It was as though somebody had rummaged through the back of my mind, vacuumed out all the nagging thoughts, the dark implications, and stitched them together to create a kind of pointilist, gestalt overview of the 20th century (and beyond) power-politics "zeitgeist."

I'm not saying it made me think "it all makes sense now!" but I am saying it made me think. In fact, it made me think: "If the index was this good, imagine what the whole thing must be like!"

I set about salvaging what chapters I could from a seemingly abandoned webspace. I managed to save every chapter except the eleventh, which covers the early part of the 1970s.

I have them saved on my hard-drive now. I haven't read the document through yet, but I will do so soon. I want to be sure that it's 100% respectable (and not disinfo crafted to make "the left" or "liberals" look like conspiracy kooks) before I forward it to members of the establishment media for their edification and general reference.

In the meantime, if Google is to be trusted, this increcibly thorough New World Order chronology is nowhere else to be found, online. This could be due to the author wishing to publish it as a book and thus removing it, but seeing as the author's name is nowhere to be found (and judging from the EXTREMELY un-Politically Correct nature of the text), I doubt it.

I would therefore like to post each individual chapter here, for permanent safe keeping. Is there a place here where we can do that?

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DejaVu: A 'People's Deeper History of the United States.'

INTRODUCTION: Nothing much to say. I put this together for people (like me) who never think there's a reason to vote. I beg of you to relent! Being a citizen means being informed and aware, and you can start right here. Please read DejaVu, any of it, before you decide not to vote again in 2004. Pick a page, any page, and learn something about the vision of YOUR FUTURE held by our leaders. And even if you remain unconvinced that there's any threat, you'll at least be compelled to admit that DejaVu is a fascinating story.

Footnoting will eventually include almost every line in DejaVu; I hope to finish with that project by next year (I'm assembling the bibliography right now, due in another month).
Be as skeptical as you can while reading DejaVu. Scientific method demands it, and more than you can imagine is riding on it.

ONE: 1701-1900

The founding of Yale University;

second President almost destroys new republic;

handful of Southern racists attempts to destabilize Union, killing President Lincon and others;

first oil wells drilled for kerosene;

populist politics attempt to break stranglehold of industrial trusts;

Brown Brothers Harriman begins journey to pinnacle of investment world.

TWO: 1900-1920

George Bush's maternal and paternal great-grandfathers (Bush and Walker) found banking and investment firms and manufacture parts for Harriman's railroad empire;

Texas discovers big oil;

'Yale in China';

Teddy Roosevelt pushes progressive agenda- also forms the 'Bureau of Investigation' (BI) to investigate corrupt public land shemes sanctioned by corrupt Congress;

Business and government form AIC;

the first Bush to lie about military service;

WWI demonstrates world dependence on oil;

Bushes and Harrimans make war weapons and warships;

J. Edgar Hoover rises through ranks;

Ku Klux Klan re-forms;

American citizens embrace anti-immigrant and fascist ideologies;

Bushes, Walkers and Harrimans join forces;

Halliburton incorporates;

Iraq gives up the oil;

race riots sweep America.

THREE: 1920-1929

WWI allies carve up Middle East;

while the '20s roar, American fascist groups gain in size and popularity;

Attorney General Palmer rounds up thousands of European Jews, radicals, and progressives for arrest and deportation;

the Red Scare;

Prescott Bush marries into Walker family and fortune;

Henry Ford publishes anti-semitic lit;

Dulles brothers (future Bush friends and CIA/National Security directors, etc) are legal counsel to the Nazis;

the Republican Teapot Dome oil scandal;

Bush, Walker and Harriman shipping line smuggles German agents, Nazi propaganda, and money for bribing American politicians;

Union Banking Corp founded by Bush/Harriman to funnel money to Nazi industrialists;

J. Edgar Hoover heads BI;

Stock Market, de-regulated by the Republican government, collapses under its own corruption.

FOUR: 1931-1939

Special Committee on Un-American Activities begins to investigate anti-semitic literature, fascist groups and Nazi propaganda in US;

Prescott Bush gains controlling interest in CBS;

Howard Hughes;

J. Edgar Hoover manipulates press and politicians, lives the high life;

Hitler enters government with legal help from Dulles brothers and financial help of Bush/Harriman;

the spread of 'Christian Fascist' groups;

radio evangelism broadcasts hatred of Jews, Communism and Roosevelt;

all Nazi commerce with US coordinated through Harriman International Co;

"deranged loner" tries to shoot Roosevelt;

Socal, later Unocal, obtains exclusive oil concession in new desert Kingdom of Saudi Arabia;

Hitler's full-blown plan to 'Germanize' America;

Hoover ruins FBI hero Melvin Purvis;

Polish government fights Bushes, Harrimans and Nazi stockholders for control of Poland's largest industry- Upper Silesian Coal and Steel Company;

young law student Richard Milhous Nixon recruited by NY law firms of Dulles brothers and Bill Donovan (first head of American intelligence);

German groups boycott Jewish merchants in US;

freshman Congressman Lyndon Johnson slides lucrative contracts to campaign financiers Brown & Root, who later merge with Halliburton;

Leo Strauss' Machiavellian neo-conservative ideologies;

Jewish mobsters combat anti-semites;

pro-Nazi Rep. Martin Dies replaces head of Un-American Activities Committee and compiles extensive blacklist of liberals and anti-fascists;

German-American Nazi camps spring up in small-town America;

right-wing Congressmen and Senators use offices to disseminate pro-Hitler, pro-fascist literature, to visit with Nazi propagandists, and to publicly support Nazi regime while condemning Roosevelt administration;

Hitler invades Poland.

FIVE: 1940-1944

Britain goes to war against Germany;

big business interests like Bush, Kennedy, et al, pressure Roosevelt to stay out of war;

Nixon falls in love with Cuba and United Fruit Co;

Nazi Germany manipulates Republican and Democrat party platforms;

Henry Ford, Charles Lindberg, Herbert Hoover, Patrick Buchanan (future Nixon speechwriter), Gerald Ford, the head of Sears & Roebuck, a future President of Yale, CIA agents, pro-Nazis- including Silver Shirts and Klan members- and nearly a million members, etc, help form America First Committee, mouthpiece of pro-Nazi propaganda (heirs of the financial backers of this committee will later finance anti-Clinton smear campaigns);

Nixon joins Navy;

Brown & Root receives first military contracts;

Roosevelt establishes OSS;

Harriman given Ambassadorship;

Prescott Bush's partner appointed Assistant Secretary of Air War, advocates terror-bombing of civilians;

Pearl Harbor;

'Yale in China' an intelligence front;

Congress investigates at least twenty members of the House receiving money from the Nazis- lead whistle-blower dies in plane crash;

Roosevelt seizes three Bush/Harriman companies doing business with Nazis;

Hoover bails out corrupt ex-FBI Republican bagman, who later dies in a plane crash;

George Bush Sr uses family connections to become Navy's youngest fighter pilot;

United Fruit Co oppresses Guatemala;

Joesph Kennedy Jr dies in plane crash.

SIX: 1945-1950

Roosevelt dies, Truman (another despised 'liberal') takes over;

US drops 'the bomb' on a Japan that had tied to surrender;

Richard Nixon returns from Navy and connects to Dulles brothers;

organized illegal Jewish immigration to Palestine swells Jewish population there;

a 'selection committee' of Eastern banking interests, including Bush/Harriman, and California mobsters like Mickey Cohen, offer to underwrite a Nixon campaign for Congress;

Hoover offers Nixon FBI resources;

George Bush Sr goes to work for Dresser Industries (later a Halliburton Co);

Truman further organizes US intelligence under CIA;

Big Oil Texans court Hoover;

Brown & Root builds offshore oil platforms;

Harriman works on the Marshall Plan;

Nixon elected after dirtiest campaign in memory, gains national exposure accusing Alger Hiss of spying;

the Red Scare intensifies, fueled by Hoover and Republican politicos bent on majority status;

corrupt and alcoholic Joe McCarthy, friend of Nixon, hijacks HUAC for Republican gain in the coming elections;

JFK, who donated to Nixon's second campaign, rejects Nixon after seeing his harsh, unethical tactics;

the Harrimans and Bushes begin to sever their ties;

Bohemia Grove;

George Bush Sr forms an oil company;

Prescott Bush loses a bid for Connecticut Congressman;

Joe McCarthy a big hit in Texas.

SEVEN: 1951-1959

Iran nationalizes oilfields;

first Bush to win a special election;

source of Nixon's funding becomes potential scandal;

Nixon TV-spins reality;

Allen Dulles becomes director of CIA (leaving Gulf Oil of Latin America);

Texas oil money compromises Hoover, Nixon;

CIA helps overthrow Iranian leader, installs puppet;

CIA inreases destabilizing activities throughout Latin America;

US military overthrows Latin governments hostile to United Fruit Co;

B-actor Ronald Reagan an FBI informant;

Eisenhower sends American 'advisors' to Vietnam (mostly special-ops and CIA);

Reverend Moon founds a church;

Prescott Bush, LBJ serve together on Senate Armed Services Committee;

CBS and CIA;

McCarthy loses FBI's support- he's discredited, but 50% of Americans still admire him;

Lee Harvey Oswald joins Civil Air Patrol;

George Bush Sr begins drilling offshore (Brown & Root builds the platforms);

young Robert Kennedy busts Nixon's campaign strategist for bribery and influence peddling;

Hoover increases spying on civilians;

Hoover bets horse through mob;

Hoover morphs 'Red Scare' into 'Black Menace' to discredit civil rights movement;

US corporations and mobsters own Cuba;

Saddam Hussein joins Ba'ath Party;

Manuel Noriega recruited as CIA asset;

Texas oil funds Nixon and Johnson;

Nixon expected to win '60 Presidential election;

Eisenhower warns about the “military-industrial complex” subverting government;

Oswald leaves top-secret Marine post (charting U2 flights over USSR) and defects to Russia;

Robert Kennedy attacks organized crime.

EIGHT: 1960-1962

Howard Hughes funds CIA ventures in exchange for business favors, rents islands to CIA for Cuba invasion training;

George Bush Sr begins intelligence career, has drilling platforms in these islands;

FBI memo states someone impersonating Lee Harvey Oswald;

CIA uses mob to get Castro, plans invasion;

same mobsters finance Nixon's campaign;

JFK wins Pesidency by thinnest margin ever, thanks to 100,000 votes delivered by Chicago mobsters;

American newspapers expose US plans to invade Cuba- New York Times claims "Mr. B of the CIA" is in charge;

Kennedy finds out about CIA Bay of Pigs plans, vows US will never invade Cuba;

Bobby Kennedy publicly disrespects J. Edgar Hoover;

Bay of Pigs invasion fails miserably;

JFK fires Dulles, shuts down CIA training camps;

Prescott Bush commiserates with friends the Dulles'; Brown & Root gets billion dollar Vietnam contract;

Kennedys infuriate radical right-wing oilmen, Hoover, mob and CIA;

FBI begins to blackmail White House with threat of 'leaks' about Kennedy sex exploits;

JFK plans to enforce Hoover's mandatory retirement (age 70) next year;

civil rights face violent social and political resistance;

racist Democrats flee to Republican camp;

Oswald gets special dispensation to renew US citizenship, returns unharassed by CIA or FBI;

Brown & Root bought by Halliburton.

NINE: 1963- JFK Assassination

JFK negotiates with Russia;

Bobby Kennedy guns for mobster who delivered for JFK;

Colin Powell goes to jungle;

Saddam Hussein tortures, probably for CIA;

Kennedy attempts to end oil tax breaks;

televised images of US racist brutality stuns world- Dr. Martin Luther King accuses FBI of complicity;

Kennedy publicly supports Civil Rights (three weeks later, a church bombing kills four black girls);

King marches on DC;

Colin Powell develops amoral 'overwhelming force' doctrine during search and destroy missions;

George Bush Sr chairs Houston Republican Party;

JFK gestures peace to Castro;

withdraws 1000 'advisors' (essentially portrayed in the press as military 'teachers' of Vietnamese, but really special forces troops and CIA mercenaries engaging in destabilizing actions), plans all troops home by '65;

Hoover smears Dr. King among members of House;

US has South Vietnamese leader assassinated;

JFK removes CIA's covert combat authority;

George Bush Sr sues Texas Governor John Connelly to force approval of a new Republican district (where Bush himself will run for Senator);

JFK asassination threat in Miami;

Clint Murchison's house party on assassination eve;

Kennedy killed in Dallas (Texas Governor John Connelly is also shot, and cries out, “My God, they’re going to kill us all!”);

Oswald arrested in Howard Hughes' Texas Theater, says he's just a patsy, and is shot next day by FBI/mob liason Jack Ruby;

Johnson appoints Waren Commission, stopping all other investigations;

Allen Dulles is defacto head of Commission;

Hoover tries to block Time magazine from crowning Dr. King 'Man of the Year.'

TEN: 1964-1969

LBJ appoints Hoover FBI 'Director for Life';

Allen Dulles' friend/publisher of Life buys 8mm film of JFK assassination (public won't see film for five years);

Bush Sr runs for Senate against Civil Rights, for Cuban invasion; Rev. Moon hq's in US;

enraged Hoover tries to block Dr. King's Nobel Peace prize, sends letter urging suicide (wiretaps record compromising sex activity);

LBJ signs Civil Rights Act, so Klan lynches Lemuel Penn;

Bush pushes escalation of war, including use of nukes;

Bush Oil drills in Latin America and Middle East, accusations of tax avoidance taint prospects;

Ted Kennedy runs for Senate- plane crashes en route to Democratic Convention, breaking his back, killing two;

Bush claims free enterprise eliminates poverty;

Nixon campaigns for Bush;

Bobby Kennedy runs for NY Senator;

opponents assail Bush for mounting “the greatest spending spree ever seen in any political campaign”;

Bush responds with Nixon-style dirty tricks;

Kennedys win Senate seats, Bush Sr loses, blames black voters;

Soviet defector has info for Warren Commission, but CIA imprisons, interrogates, tortures him for three years;

Warren Commission releases report, blames Oswald, finds no motive;

CIA creates Gulf of Tonkin incident, leaving Johnson with war powers;

LBJ feeds Vietnam contracts to Halliburton;

civil rights workers killed by Klan;

massive bombing of North Vietnam begins;

Malcom X shot;

Bush wins redistricting lawsuit- Supreme Court affirms district made of areas where Bush is popular;

after Voting Rights Act passes, Dr. King protests Vietnam war;

Eisenhower, others lend their names to Moonie-related enterprise;

majority of Democrats led by Johnson enact a "progressive tidal wave" unmatched since Teddy Roosevelt's term- in four years poverty is halved, wage disparity between CEO/worker reaches historical low;

Bush Sr runs unchallenged for Congressman of new district: “I want conservatism to be sensitive and dynamic," but mocks Civil Rights leaders and anti-war protestors;

Rev. Jerry Falwell condemns civil rights and defends segregation as "God's Order";

Republicans appeal to Southern bigotry, Northern fear of societal breakdown, gain 47 House seats in midterm races;

20-year old Bill Clinton enters politics fighting campaign of notorious Arkansas racist, creates lifelong racist enemies;

CIA's crazy experiments;

Bush hires advertiser to run campaign- approach is "politicians are celebrities, issues will play no role";

Bush wins election and unprecedented freshman appointment to most influential committee (where he can affect oil tax legislation);

mainstream press attacks Dr. King's anti-war stance;

Hoffa goes to prison;

Colin Powell works Nam intelligence and protects superiors from reports of US atrocities (including My Lai massacre);

George Bush Jr at Yale;

New Orleans DA Garrison tires to expose Warren Commission inequities;

DC panics as King plans a massive 'poor people's march', with vows to stay until certain legislation is passed;

Tet offensive exposes White House lie that US is winning war;

Nixon/Republicans help finance pro-war Moonie youth groups;

Roger Ailes, future Fox News exec, hired by Nixon as media strategist;

Osama bin Laden's father dies in plane crash;

George Bush Jr uses connections to enter Air National Guard special unit ahead of list, despite near-failing scores;

Ross Perot/Howard Hughes feed money to Nixon for future business favors;

Nixon/Kissinger secretely undermine LBJ's Vietnam peace talks before election;

Martin Luther King is killed;

Bobby Kennedy's progressive campaign for President is a phenomenon in modern politics, but he's shot and killed two months after King;

Daniel Ellsberg releases Pentagon Papers- Nixon tries to destroy him;

Powell works for Nixon and meets mentors Frank Carlucci/Caspar Weinberger;

Rev. Moon receives public accolades from right-wing Republican leaders.

ELEVEN: 1970-1974

Nixon makes Bush an offer;

Nixon plans right-biased media;

Bush receives Nixon funds but loses Senate race;

Bush upset over John Connelly's intelligence committee post;

Bush Jr dates Nixon's daughter;

Chile nationalizes its oil and banking industries;

Bush becomes UN Ambassador (after Nixon's choice declines), under Henry Kissinger;

Richard Cheney becomes White House aide;

Hoover becomes increasingly unstable- Nixon looks for safe way to oust him;

four students killed at Kent State;

Nixon commutes Hoffa's sentence;

Bush's oil partner delivers nearly a million dollars cash to Nixon's campaign;

Saddam Hussein, ruler of Iraq, nationalizes oil industry;

CIA destabilizes Chile and Iraq (by agitating the Kurds);

Bush defends escalation of Vietnam to UN;

3rd party candidate George Wallace is shot;

Lucianna Goldberg (later of Monica Lewinsky fame) hired by Nixon to sex spy on McGovern’s campaign;

Nixon ‘sells’ overnights in Lincoln Bedroom;

Hoover gets unusal late night call from Nixon, is found dead in a.m.- buried immediately without autopsy, his house stripped and searched top to bottom;

burglars (all CIA assets) arrested in Watergate Hotel;

military begins drug testing, Bush Jr stops showing up for physicals, is suspended;

shortly before elections, Rep. Hale Boggs disappears in apparent plane crash in Alaska;

Watergate scandal kept low-profile as Nixon wins re-election;

E. Howard Hunt blackmails Nixon until plane carrying his wife (and energy CEO's upsetting the Attorney General) crashes and kills all;

Nixon appoints own operatives to investigate crash;

Nixon gets signed resignations from entire cabinet but George Bush, whom he tells Kissinger "will do anything for us";

Rev. Moon uses call girls to compromise US Senators;

Deep Throat warns Watergate investigators: “everybody’s life is in danger,” Bush Sr, now head of the RNC, is charged with deflecting Watergate blame from Nixon;

Arab nations form OPEC, challenging US and UK;

Pinochet, with CIA help, terrorizes Chile;

House Judiciary Committee, including young and vocal attorney named Hillary Rodham, investigates impeachment of Nixon;

Rev. Moon and followers publicly support Nixon in national demonstrations;

Karl Rove, head of College Republicans, helps Bush Sr paint Watergate as political witch hunt;

Bush appointed Ambassador to China;

the 'smoking gun' White House tapes released, exposing Nixon's guilt;

Bush writes Nixon, urges resignation, promises image rehabilitation;

Gerald Ford, with close ties to US intelligence, is first vice-president and President to take office without being elected to either;

Bush and disgraced Nixon blame 'liberal media' on downfall;

Gerald Ford pardons Nixon, essentially ending all further investigations;

William Simon vows 'never again', sets out on a 20-year odyssey to create a right-wing media friendly to neo-con/Straussian politics.

TWELVE: 1975-1979

In reaction to Watergate, House subcommitties investigate government and CIA, FBI, other security organizations;

Church Committee focuses on CIA covert assassination actions;

CIA Director William Colby is cooperative, so Donald Rumsfeld engineers his firing;

Bush Sr appointed new CIA Director (after Ford's choice declines) to much protest in Congress;

CIA stymies and stalls investigative committees;

Noriega running guns/dope while being handled by Bush Sr;

mobster Sam Giancana is killed five days before scheduled testimony concerning CIA/Castro plots;

Kissinger investing capital in the West Bank;

US- educated team of Chilean economists revamps Chile according to neo-con free maket principles- Chile becomes the most unstable economy in Latin America;

CIA admits many experiments have resulted in injury or death to scientists, civilians;

“Squeaky” Fromme attempts to kill President Ford;

Sarah Jane Moore, ex-FBI informant, tries to shoot Ford 17 days later;

Dick Cheney is White House Chief of Staff;

Moonies open 'education centers';

Saddam Hussein wins UNESCO award for improving life quality and literacy levels of Iraqis;

Bin Laden construction firm one of largest in the Middle East, benefits from Saudi largesse and Western capital;

Church Committee learns that hundreds of journalists across the nation and world are CIA assets- Bush refuses to provide names;

House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) appointed to re-examine evidence in both JFK and Martin Luther King killings;

Bush's CIA buys planes from Bush Jr's friend, and finances deals through infamously corrupt Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI);

Chuch Committe concludes: "...the investigation of the (JFK) assassination was grossly deficient, and facts which might have substantially affected the course of the investigation were not provided the Warren Commission";

Ford and Bush try to bury the Pike Committee report, but Daniel Schor leaks it;

Behind 'Koreagate' is Rev. Moon and Korean CIA;

Bush's CIA destabilizes Jamaica, tries to assassinate Bob Marley;

Bush sets up CIA think tank to spin intelligence showing US weapons deficiencies which don't exist;

Bush Sr busted for dunk driving while head of CIA;

Carter wins Prediency and immediately removes Bush from CIA;

Congress investigates Rev. Moon;

HSCA calls gangster Santos Trafficante, who pleads the 5th on all questions concerning JFK's asassination;

Bush Jr begins oil company;

four of seven Warren Commission counsels officially and publicly express doubts about Warren Commission Report;

Bush Jr loses his first Congressional race;

HCSA subpoenas Oswald benefactor (who commits suicide by gunshot four hours later) and Assistant to FBI Director William Sullivan (who dies of a gunshot wound, while hunting, shortly before testimony);

Jimmy Carter applies trade sanctions against Iraq because of human rights violations, takes Panama's Noriega off the payroll;

Iran throws out CIA's Shah and takes American hostages;

Bush possibly arranges for Iran to hold US hostages until after the '80 election;

Jerry Falwell and other US religious leaders file court briefs in defense of Reverend Moon.

THIRTEEN: 1980-1986

Bush battles Reagan for Republican nomination;

Reagan wins it, at late hour chooses Bush (whom he doesn't like or trust) as running mate;

new Arkansas Governor Clinton takes on Tyson, Inc, the US's largest poultry, etc, provider to fast food industry;

Iran hostage crisis dooms Carter;

Reagan wins- hostages released minutes after inauguration;

Reagan funds covert war in Central America;

Noriega back on payroll;

"deranged loner" Hinckley shoots and nearly kills Reagan;

Hinckley proves to be friend of Bush sons;

at US urging, Iraq attacks Iran;

Regan recruits 70% of new soldiers from the ghettos;

Justice Dept prosecutes former CIA Director Colby;

Bush votes to renew chemical weapons production;

Project Democracy begins to collect funds from right-wing philanthropists;

Rev. Moon publishes ultra-right tabloid Washington Times with help from KCIA;

VP Bush handles Noriega;

Bush chairs ‘Presidential Task Force on Deregulation,’ setting up bank deregulations which lead to Savings & Loan disasters of the late ‘80s (in which his own sons are complicit);

Rev. Moon is convicted of tax fraud and sentenced to prison in CT;

US assists Saudis in military buildup- BinLaden and Halliburton are major contractors;

Congress forbids US tax dollars for CIA missions;

US begins sale and transfer of bacteria, viruses, retroviruses, and fungi to Iraq, China;

Bush sons Neil, George Jr and Jeb involved in numerous unethical and fraudulent business ventures;

Bush buys SAM missiles fom China (and provides nuclear and satellite technology), sells to Iran- profits sent to Central American covert actions;

Reagan launches propaganda program aimed at American citizens;

Governor Clinton busts Tyson foods for violating environmental statutes;

Rev. Moon gets out of prison early- Reagan invites to White House;

Jerry Falwell speaks at Moon-sponsored events;

Noreiga accuses Oliver North of ripping him off for $5 million dollars;

Prime Minister of Sweden is shot to death in street after rejecting a third party weapons deal brokered by Oliver North;

the lid comes off Iran-Contra;

Bush surrounded by Bay of Pigs characters, same as Nixon.

FOURTEEN: 1986-1989

Independent Kuwait seized by super-rich al-Sabah family, who dissolve National Assembly, suppress small democracy movement;

Colin Powell sends all US HAWK misiles to Iran, leaving US troops without;

Pat Robertson uses ‘Operation Blessing' for logistics support to his diamond, lumber interests in Zaire;

illegal contra aid, supplies, drugs funneled through CIA airport in Mena, AK;

pilot, DEA informant Barry Seal killed by hitmen before testifying about drugs/arms-running;

former Bush partner Harriman dies, wife Pamela spends fortune helping build Democratic party;

Reagan sends Ross Perot after POW's in Asia;

Perot confronts Bush about CIA drug/arms runners compromising his search- Bush has Perot pulled;

George Jr plays more oil money games;

Republican Lawrence Walsh is Independent Counsel for Iran-Contra;

right before scheduled testimony, CIA director William Casey stricken during routine exam and rushed into surgery, after which he is unable to communiate;

Casey becomes scapegoat for Iran-Contra;

as Iran-Contra intensifies, Colin Powell brought back from Germany to run interference for Reagan;

Carlyle Investment group formed;

Allen Bloom popularizes Straussian neo-con theories;

Reagan scraps media Fairness Doctrine, setting up Rush Limbaugh; administration officials, CIA operatives, General Powell lie under oath;

Bush sons, Bush brother, Andrew Cuomo, mobster John Gotti partner in HUD fraud;

Osama binLaden's brother Salem, business partner of Bush Jr friend James Bath, dies in freak plane crash;

PanAm 103 blows up over Scotland- part of a US drug sting operation, several CIA agents were aboard- heading back to Langley to blow whistle on Ollie North;

Bush beats Dukakis in vicious election;

CIA-trained 'freedom fighters', led by Osama BinLaden, drive Russia out of Afghanistan;

dirty election godfather Lee Atwater pegs Bill Clinton as only candidate who could beat Bush in '92;

Jack Horton, senior VP of Gulf Power, charters company plane to confront Board of Directors about illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicians- plane explodes en route, killing all;

EXXON Valdez spills millions of gallons of oil, will never pay $1 in fines;

Prescott Bush Jr sells more satellites to China;

Robert Mueller (later Bush Jr's FBI #1) in charge of Justice Dept's Iran-Contra probe;

Bush Jr borrows from his oil company to finance 2% of Texas Rangers deal;

Stephens, Inc, in Little Rock, AK, is largest investment bank outside Wall Street- Stephens, Inc dealing with Bush family for years, despises Clinton (who sharply curtailed its corrupt influence in AK, defused favorable legislation);

Bush Sr pardons Armand Hammer after a 100,000$+ donation, and anti-castro airplane bomber;

US invades Panama, killing 3000+ civilians and avoiding rich areas of town where Prescott Bush has invested in luxury hotels;

Bush replaces Noriega with two other drug runners.

FIFTEEN: 1990-1991

Bush sons get lightest fines in S&L convictions, Republican party pays for them;

Dick Cheney tries to block Nelson Mandela's release;

Texas Democrat Mickey Leland-outspoken advocate of sanctions against apartheid, dies in plane crash;

Bill Clinton pisses off all AK interest groups;

George Jr sells oil stock to pay for Rangers loan, then oil stock tanks;

in July, General Schwartzkopf runs computerized Iraqi invasion war games;

Kuwait begins 'side-drilling' siphoning of Iraqi oil;

Iraq complains and threatens- US assures Iraq it won't get involved;

Bush Jr sells Harken stocks shortly before they tank- illegally reports four stock transactions;

Bush Jr, et al, convince Arlington TX to bill taxpayers, fans for Texas Rangers and new ENRON Stadium;

then the group illegally seizes 270 'eminent domain' acres around ballpark, at taxpayer cost;

media begins attacking Olive Stone's JFK year before release;

Bush Sr hires PR firms to sell Gulf War;

Bush Sr tells Saudis Iraq massing on border- story, related pics false;

Bush Sr calls liberal Senator Paul Wellstone "chickenshit";

Rodney King beating;

research team determines: “The more TV people watch, the less they know; and the less people know the more likely they are to back Bush";

US begins heavy bombing in Iraq;

US loses about 400 troops in Gulf War I - ”Small losses as military statistics go,” writes Powell;

White House heavily controls press, all war coverage;

US massacres 10,000+ Iraqi's obeying cease-fire and retreating, on the 'Highways of Death";

Bush enourages Kurds to rise up against Hussein;

Bush camp tells Clinton if he runs in '92 he'll never run for anything again;

Powell advises Bush Sr to not support Kurds, Shi'ites- thousands are killed;

US violates int'l law by sabotaging Iraqi clean water;

former US AG publicly charges US with 19 violations of law in Gulf War actions;

Saudi Arabia agrees to permanent US presence, infuriating Osama bin Laden.

SIXTEEN: 1991-1993

Progressive John Heinz (R-PA) dies in freak plane/helicopter crash- flying to Philadelphia for Medicare sales scams hearings- been outspoken against Vietnam, for public health care, social services, environment- pushed reconciliation with Cuba;

next day, former TX Senator John Tower, head of the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, dies in air crash- he led Reagan’s Iran-Contra whitewash 'Tower Commission', was writing book about it (Bush Sr uses identical eulogies in speeches each day, changing only the names of the deceased);

Condoleeza Rice joins Chevron, after serving on Bush Sr’s National Security Council;

Carlyle Group recruits ex-Defense officials;

Bush nominates pornography addict, sexual harasser Clarence Thomas to Supreme Court;

Anita Hill charges Thomas with harassment and is severely denigrated in mainstream media- Thomas wins appointment;

Danny Casolaro, investigating corrupt bank BCCI, is found dead of apparent suicide;

CIA admits using BCCI to funnel money for covert actions;

Bush Sr's 3 top fundraisers are sued for S&L bank fraud;

controversial movie JFK spurs Congress into creating Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB);

Bush Sr publicly declares Lee Harvey Oswald JFK's shooter and refuses to appoint committee members;

Iran-Contra Special Prosecutor discovers discrepancies in Colin Powell's testimony;

on Xmas eve, Bush Sr pardons all indicted Iran-Contra figures, dissolving the case against himself, Colin Powell;

forces join to block Clinton's Presidential nomination, releasing Whitewater story right before primaries;

Rodney King's assaulters acquitted, triggering worst race riots in US history;

Def. Sec. Cheney funnels military contracts to Halliburton, plans for future 'war zones';

Little Rock FBI says insufficient evidence to pursue Whitewater- Robert Mueller insists investigation go on- leader defies him, resigns;

on eve of NH primary, Gennifer Flowers sells story of Clinton affair, complete with tapes, to tabloids;

Flowers will never produce one item, document, or verifiable fact to prove any affair with Clinton;

tapes likely doctored;

White House deflects attention from Bush sons' guilt in S&L meltdowns;

Jesse Helms asks Bush to pardon big-time Pakistani heroin smuggler;

Rush Limbaugh, Washington Times, etc begin immediate discrediting of new President Clinton;

Bush Sr on payroll of Barrick gold mines, after allowing mines on Nevada public lands;

judges Sentelle, Silberman (later of Monica Lewinsky fame) void felony convictions of Ollie North. John Poindexter;

Neil Bush sells Kuwaitis on ENRON;

Paul Wilcher sends Janet Reno document about October Surprise- is found dead at home;

Bush appointee embezzles millions from Travel Office, Repubs make stink over firings;

corrupt AK judge behind Whitewater accusations turns to Clinton enemy 'Justice Jim';

Cheney goes to Halliburton, deals with terrorist nations;

Vince Foster an apparent suicide;

right-wing 'echo chamber' up and running.

SEVENTEEN: A Vast, Right-wing Conspiracy

1970's not kind to Republicans, 'never again';

Clinton the murderer;

Richard Mellon Scaife, 'Justice Jim' Thompson, and the indicted embezzler Judge Hale, starting the cycle of revenge;

Jerry Falwell's Promise Keepers;

The Heritage Foundation and the 'kitchen cabinet';

Moonies and Christians Unite;

The Council for National Policy;

a series of tabloidesque anti-Clinton videos;

Political Action Committees;

right-wing philanthropy;

the language of propaganda;

Wednesday morning meetings;

sex sells;

judicial activism and the Federalist Society;

Bohemia Grove;

Project For a New American Century (PNAC) becomes US defense policy.

EIGHTEEN: 1993-1998

'Justice Jim', Sheffield Nelson, embezzler Judge Hale target Clinton;

Hale's connection at New York Times;

Rush Limbaugh claims Foster murdered over Whitewater;

Richard Sacife, American Spectator; Bush Jr elected Texas Governor;

veterans file Gulf War Syndrome lawsuit;

Linda Tripp, last to see Foster alive, eased out of White House for fueling rumors;

Nixon dies;

Newt Gingrich takes Congress;

Paula Jones, backed by Richard Scaife, Federalist Society judges, announces sex-harassment suit against Clinton;

Bush Sr's RTC investigation into Whitewater concludes that the President, First lady told truth;

Commerce Secretary Ron Brown dies in plane crash while on ENRON trip to Croatia with ENRON president (who, luckily, was not on fatal flight);

Governor Bush Jr rewards and is rewarded;

Republican Congress blocks Clinton anti-terror bills;

TWA 800 crashes, hundreds of citizens claim to have seen missile or flare (Navy was testing sea-based missile-defense systems);

oil companies, Halliburton focus on Caspian Sea region;

Clinton pushes CIA drug traffic investigations;

the Moonies, Reverend Schuller;

Unocal, the Taliban talk pipeline;

Clinton blocks Halliburton contracts;

Rumsfeld, Cheney, et al, form Project for the New American Century (PNAC), lobby for regime change in Iraq;

Carlyle Group expands to Europe, Asia;

Bush Jr gets rich off taxpayers;

Linda Tripp tapes Monica Lewinsky with Ken Starr support;

Brown & Root gets contracts in Bosnia, also builds taxpayer-funded new ENRON Stadium;

AOL pays Matt Drudge $3000 monthly for Drudge Report online (Colin Powell on AOL board), birthplace of right-wing 'echo-chamber' Clinton smears and pro-Republican election campaigns;

US intelligence learns that a "group of unidentified Arabs planned to fly an explosive-laden plane from a foreign country into the World Trade Center";

Indonesia Corruption Watch names Kellogg, Brown & Root, Halliburton among corrupt, collusive companies;

Israel's Netanyahu visits Rev. Falwell before president Clinton;

PNAC pressures Clinton to invade Iraq.

NINETEEN: 1999-2000

Bush Jr stays in Gov’s Mansion, windows closed, so he can’t hear thousands of Dr. King Day celebrants;

Halliburton, Shell, Chevron use local African police to kill, intimidate protestors;

Republicans release 'Chinagate' report to shift blame from Reagan/Bush to Clinton;

Bush Jr rewards taxpayer money to investor friends, changes laws to avoid accountability;

Enron needs trans-Afghanistan pipeline, built by Unocal, to make India power plant profitable;

unsealing 50 -year old Alger Hiss files proves Nixon's case deceptive;

Bush Sr meets Taliban, bin Ladens as rep for Carlyle Group;

Clinton freezes Taliban assets;

John Kennedy Jr, wife die in plane crash;

CIA dedicates new HQ ‘George Bush Center for Intelligence';

Bush supporter SCI, world's largest funeral home company, fires whistleblowers to block lawsuits- Bush perjures himself, replaces investigative commitee;

FCC's Michael Powell fails to recuse self in slippery AOL/Time-Warner merger, while father Colin Powell sits on boad;

Bush Jr’s TX Housing Dept is rife with bribery, theft, money-laundering and mail fraud;

4 year investigation into CIA drug trafficking reports "no evidence" months after finishing, with no publicity... ex-CIA committee staff director then commits suicide;

Gore, Bush Presidential race begins;

Taliban hires former CIA director Richard Helms' daughter to improve image in US;

Bush Sr, Barbara sell $9 million of Global Crossing stocks weeks before they bottom out;

Bush Sr, former Brit PM John Major meet Carlyle co-investors bin Ladens at least twice during election year;

Congress doubles President’s salary and votes to expire Independent Counselor law;

PNAC, Jeb Bush publish Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, which becomes US policy after 9/11;

Ariel Sharon invades Temple Mount with armed police during Muslim worship- triggering riot, another intifadah;

Burke’s Peerage- British researchers of royal bloodlines, says of Bushes: “Not one member...was ever working class, middle class, or even upper middle class, ever”;

Gore's American bloodline;

Missouri Governor Mel Carnahan- outspoken environmental advocate, progressive champ, key Dem candidate in Senate majority struggle (expected to beat John Ashcroft), dies in plane crash weeks before election;

manistream media paints Gore as a liar and Bush as honest;

Bush camp plans challenge to the Electoral College system, which they believe they'll lose to Gore.

TWENTY: Election 2000

TWENTY-ONE: 2001

Pre-Inauguration, CIA briefs Bush team on bin Laden threat;

Bush suspends bin Laden family investigations;

FAA warns of imminent hijackings;

Rev. Moon hosts inaugural luncheon- John Ashcroft speaker, Billy Graham receives award...most major televangelists- even Southern Baptists- in attendance;

25,000 protestors line Presidential route- hurling eggs, insults;

Bush rehires shady characters, felons from father's administration;

average net worth of Bush cabinet more than ten times that of Clinton's;

Senators Hart and Rudman send urgent anti-terror National Security package to Condoleeza Rice;

ENRON, other energy brokers help bankrupt California by manipulating market;

Carlyle Group, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld meet- as do ENRON, Cheney, et al (while Cheney mocks energy conservationists on TV);

Judicial Watch- bane of Clinton- criticizes Bush Sr role with Carlyle Group, Cheney's secret meetings with energy brokers;

Bush camp despises Paul Wellstone, makes him priority;

J. Baxter warns Ken Lay about ENRON irregularities;

nuclear sub USS Greenville- with civilian Repub donors at helm- sinks Japanese boat, killing nine;

Prescott Bush Jr opens US/China Chamber of Commerce, assists Bush Jr with spy plane incident;

US quietly increases troop strength around Caspian Sea;

media focuses on missing Dem aide Chandra Levy, ignores Repub Joe Scarborough aide dead under suspicious circumstances;

33 communications collected by NSA indicate “possible, imminent terrorist attack”;

John Ashcroft stops flying commercially;

anti-aircraft weapons protect Bush at G8 summit;

arresting officers find discredited author of Bush Jr expose' dead by suicide;

Bush takes entire August off- receives intelligence brief on imminent terrorist threat in America;

five hundred Arab/Muslim websites crash when FBI raids ISP;

in days before 9/11 abnormally high levels of put options purchased on United Air Lines, American Airlines;

John O'Neill quits anti-terrorism team as State Dept blocks al Qaida investigations, becomes Security Chief at World Trade Center;

on 9/10 Ashcroft refuses FBI. counterterrorism budget increases.

TWENTY-TWO: The New Pearl Harbor

TWENTY-THREE: The New World Order Redux

Two days after 9/11, China allowed into World Trade Organization (after fifteen years of unsuccessful attempts);

the Anthrax attack against Democratic leaders and the media;

aiming at Iraq;

Carlyle investors reap a series of defense windfalls;

dead and missing microbiologists;

largest US defense budget in history;

US bombs Afghanistan;

Paul Wellstone battles Republican Congress;

ENRON corruption exposed, other giants fall- Baxter found dead by suicide week before testimony;

Carlyle purchases many small TV stations, Michael Powell further de-regulates public airways;

Bush uses Sasha Cohen to hawk for Beef Association;

another SCI 'Funeralgate' in Florida, regional director commits suicide while investigating;

Rupert Murdoch pays almot $0 in American taxes;

media strategies used to sell Gulf War I are honed, perfected, and amplified in the 'echo chamber';

Bush and Cheney continually stymie 9/11 investigation;

war drums beat for Iraq;

Halliburton raking in the contracts in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay;

Wellstone votes against war in Iraq, support for his campaign swells;

shortly before election, Wellstone is killed in a plane crash.


TWENTY-FOUR: The Future Ain't What it Used to Be

The Saudi-US connection;

manufacturing bombs;

Carlyle Group’s 36% annual rate of return wins investors' Dream Team of the Year award;

Clear Channel, with George W business partner Tom Hicks at vice chair, dominates US radio market, uses its clout (and programming like Rush Limbaugh's show) to advance Bush policies;

Clear Channel runs pro-war rallies, sponsored by local radio stations, that denigrate progressives and Democrats;

Clear Channel gets bigger as FCC continues to de-regulate;

Schwarzenegger announces plan to quietly settle Enron, El Paso lawsuits;

faith-based strategies a disaster in TX;

Bush Sr buys Italian cigarette company;

White House admits it has created a 'Shadow Government' to take over underground in emergency, not a single Democrat is involved;

WorldCom busted for fraud, then granted large Iraqi contracts;

Carlyle Group buys Britain's defense research institute;

Human Rights groups charge Shell, Texaco, ExxonMobile, Unocal with abetting muder, rape, intimidation in Nigeria, Burma, etc;

more voter machine funny business;

Halliburton profits up 40%;

born-again Christians in charge of war against Islam;

General Tommy Franks predicts suspension of Constitution;

US government plan for market allowing traders to bet on likelihood of terror attacks, assassinations and other Middle East events- headed by Iran-Contra felon John Poindexter- nixed ater public outcry, then quietly revived by private firm that helped develop it;

Wal-Mart destroying American commerce single-handedly;

corporations sending jobs to India;

human genome research demonstrates a gene-specific weapon can be produced, PNAC calls such a weapon potentially "a politically useful tool."

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:35 PM
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1. Post what you have
or if you need someplace to host it, I can put it up somewhere.
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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:37 PM
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3. Can I send you the Word files?
Do you have an e-mail address you're willing to share?
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:55 PM
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18. PM me
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:35 PM
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2. aaaaaaiiiiiiiiieeeeee.. my brain hurts
You connected the dots... but people only see what they want to see..:)
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:57 PM
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4. Jesus....
Am I crazy or is everything really looking like some frickin B movie. I just read about "Peak Oil". It all connects people.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:59 PM
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5. Some of the chapters still have live links:
The google cache of the intro is here: http://tinyurl.com/2m62k

Chapter 13 and on are still live.

Try http://www.winterboy.com/DejaVu13.html for chapter 13, and just substitute numbers for subsequent chapters.

Looks like a good find, thanks!
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:37 PM
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12. interesting info from those links....
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:03 PM
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6. what a hellish chronology of history......
......that brings us to this point in time! :evilfrown:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:20 PM
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9. I tried whois...
....to see if we could get a name associated with this winterboy.com site. Here's what turns up:

Domain Name: WINTERBOY.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS1.LAUGHINGSQUID.NET
Name Server: NS2.LAUGHINGSQUID.NET
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 09-jul-2002
Creation Date: 04-jul-1997
Expiration Date: 03-jul-2004
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:25 PM
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11. weird
laughingsquid whois turns up like this:

Domain Name: LAUGHINGSQUID.NET
Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.register.com
Referral URL: http://www.register.com
Name Server: NS1.LAUGHINGSQUID.NET
Name Server: NS2.LAUGHINGSQUID.NET
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 16-may-2002
Creation Date: 21-oct-1998
Expiration Date: 20-oct-2011

And then

REGISTER.COM.SPLENDORSMILES.COM.US
REGISTER.COM.NY.US1.ANHHUY.COM
REGISTER.COM.BACKUP.NY.US1.ANHHUY.COM
REGISTER.COMTo single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the
of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up
with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record.

I can't seem to get to a definite owner for laughingsquid.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 08:19 AM
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35. Laughing Squid tangles with 'The Octopus'
"Danny Casolaro called it "the Octopus". A vast, interlocking network of criminal conspiracy that reaches into every branch and agency of the U.S. government, many other national governments, and every sector of our societies.

"An investigative reporter seeking the truth, Danny told his friends he was meeting an informant to "bring back the head of the Octopus" when his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991. Much of the evidence he had gathered was missing. The death was ruled a "suicide", but the evidence supports murder. He never had the chance to write the book he was working on.

"This is an attempt to finish the book Danny started, based on his surviving notes and further investigation."

http://www.constitution.org/col/octocaso.htm
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 09:11 PM
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27. Perhaps the laughing squid is Cthulhu? (nt)
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:16 PM
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7. one problem that I See
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 10:18 PM by mrdmk
TEN: 1964-1969

Daniel Ellsberg releases Pentagon Papers- Nixon tries to destroy him;

<snip>
Thirty years ago this month, President Nixon picked up his Sunday New York Times on June 13, 1971 to see the wedding picture of his daughter Tricia and himself in the Rose Garden, leading the left-hand side of the front page. Next to that picture, on the right, was the headline over Neil Sheehan’s first story on the Pentagon Papers, “Vietnam Archive: Pentagon Study Traces 3 Decades of Growing U.S. Involvement.” Nixon did not read the story (so he says on tape in his 12:18 p.m. phone call with Alexander Haig).
<snip>

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB48/

I will print this out your work here and check for accuracy. Nice work.:thumbsup:


edit: added link
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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:19 PM
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8. Yeah, I want to check for things like that, too.
I think that particular error might have more to do with "topic creep" where one chapter begins by discussing something that happened at the end of another, or ends by highlighting a coming event, etc. More a technical error than any kind of major mistake.
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:23 PM
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10. Could the author be
winterboy? Alan someone? Check out homepage: http://www.winterboy.com/alan.html and links page (includes link for DU!)
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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:38 PM
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13. Thanks for that!
How did I miss that? I already e-mailed him.
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:50 PM
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14. wtf
how long did it take me to read that?? are there PDFs available? i see you have .doc files, but would somebody please convert them to PDF?
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:34 PM
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15. I do not think this thread reflects well on DU
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 11:48 PM by cryofan
I think that maybe you guys are seeing something big where something little exists.

Look, I think Chomsky is right in that the media and the powerful collaborate. OK, fine, that is the case, as far as I can tell.

But what you posted here is just a HUGE laundry list of .... rather dubious "facts". Sorry, just my ever humble opinion.

And I think your post and all the posts under it that seem to think it is something earth shaking, well, it makes DU seem conspiracy-oriented.

I am willing to believe that the BFEE exists to some extent, but not to the extent you propose. Maybe it does exist that to extent, but you need better documentation ( a HELLUVA lot better!) than this, to even approach this sort of subject.

Online populist grassroots meeting forums like DU are important to this country. I think you guys should consider how threads like this look to many people here, that's all.
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thingfish Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:49 PM
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17. Which of the listed facts, exactly, are you contesting?
Just out of curiosity.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:43 AM
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22. these facts don't necessarily imply a conspiracy . . .
i.e some nefarious strategem with a work plan, a time line, and a membership list that understands the plan and their role in it . . . they simply describe "how things are" . . . until the advent of the internet, it wasn't possible to pull all of these facts together and show the big picture of "how things are" to millions of people . . . as people increasingly understand that this is indeed "how things are," they will increasingly understand how important it it to change . . .
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 12:57 AM
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29. Each of these chapters and information
is available singularly from a variety of sources. It is nice to see it all put together. Sure hope it comes out in a book.

Go back to your nap.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:16 AM
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31. So, it is "put together", is it?
Like a shit sandwich, it is.

I can hardly believe that so many people see something in this manic-generated mega-list. You all seem to me to be like so many natives reading goat entrails in order to foresee the future.

I will "go back to my nap" when you guys get yourselves some psychotropic meds. Ya know, too much dopamine running around in your brainpan can make you see patterns in every little thing, or I hear.....
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:47 AM
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32. Nice generalization.
Try sticking to debunking the allegations and stay away from the broad brush next time. Thanks in advance.

Too much for you? Then pick one and start from there. Any fool can cry "conspiracy theory", it happens every day.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 07:36 AM
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33. Chomsky

If you agree with Chomsky that the media and the powerful collaborate, then what do you think about what Chomsky has to say about the result of that collaboration? About how under the veil of "democracy" and "free trade", business- and political arrangments are made between the powerful and governments of developing nations that benefit the powerful at the expense of the population.
If not to cover up the dubious activities of the powerfull, then to what end do the media and the powerful collaborate?
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:39 PM
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16. wow
i mean it, wow. took a while to read it, even though it is subject matter I'm familiar with, it's still amazing to see how the Fascist web of evil eventually undermined everything America is supposed to stand for.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:01 AM
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19. Damn juicy, but I have to split, whaaaaa!!
This will be duly bookmarked for tomorrow. Thanks thingfish and welcomed to DU!!

:hi:
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:10 AM
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20. I learned of much of this stuff at

http://www.endtimesnetwork.com
http://www.isrp.org

These are christians but they don't follow the current fascist trend. They have sooooooooooo much to say about all of these weird events. The site is mainly aimed at right wing conservative christians of today. They claim the rw christians today are going down the wrong path and want to tell them so. The other angle of theirs is rather socially activist.
Just some more stuff to look at if so inclined.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:31 AM
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21. Might want to try case sensitive file name
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:46 AM
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23. Clinton was Gov of Arkansas, not Alaska
n/t
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:36 AM
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24. thanks again....
....this is just fabulous.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:38 AM
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25. he forgot Smedley Butler!
The coup attempt against FDR isn't included. Very significant attack on the Constitution!
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:44 AM
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26. Oh well, how can I say this other than..
just to put it lightly. Think my fellow friends. Remember when someone at moveon.org had a security leak and that horrid T.V. commercial was used by the right to discredit the left? Nuff said!
File: CASE SENSITIVE--print and keep.
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concord Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 11:36 PM
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28. Thank you!
Fascinating! Fits in well with everything else I've dug up in the past 2 years. Lots to chew on here. :hi:

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 02:08 AM
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30. I think this guy wrote it...
Alan Winter

Here's his email address: winterboy@winterboy.com

He has a link to DU on his site: http://www.winterboy.com/links.html


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General Discontent Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 07:40 AM
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34. Great find
Kickety kick


DWolfman
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KYDEM Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 03:10 PM
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36. Kick
n/t
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